Way more cross-type AF points and MP than the 6D. Lol
So sad, so true. Be nice, im an owner (hopefully not for long!!)
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Way more cross-type AF points and MP than the 6D. Lol
RE: 11-24 f4
I would guess no IS because Canon wanted to go all in on sheer optics, and I know historically they have had some issues employing both (like the first 70-200 IS L) Perhaps a field of view this wide created too big a a hurdle to overcome for an IS motor without having to sacrifice a bit of edge sharpness? I'm just guessing, Dylan. That said, the 16-35 f4 (FABULOUS glass, I own it) is such a great all around wide angle for the money. But, for the high end pros who demand the utmost precision from corner to corner, methinks they are mostly shooting tripod/monopod anyway. I know I shoot my 16-35 on tripod for landscape stuff as much as possible, negating the use of IS anyway.
This is for a different level of landscape shooting where obviously you're going to spend hundreds more on an expensive filter kit to buckle to the front of this light bulb anyway.
You are quoting the internet lore that the 70-200mm f/2.8L is sharper than the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS? I'm not sure that there is any real difference other than sample variation. The 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II on the other hand is clearly superior to both its predecessors. That being said, there may be more issues with implementing IS on wide angle lenses; I'm sure someone on this forum will have a geeky answer!
You're right about the filter kit, but it isn't just the price that puts me off: the standard Lee filters are already big enough, how you go about carrying the monsters that are made for the bulbous-fronted lenses without a separate bag would be a challenge.
Thanks for all your replies.
The lens I have are:
And the photos I usually took are landscape and people, so I think the features of 6D can meet my requirement.
I don't think I'll buy 5D3 because it's quite old.
The Canon 50mm primes are the most disappointing set of lenses in Canon's portfolio. I've owned and used professionally every one of them except the 50mm f1.0 L and all of them have been disappointing when compared to the results from other Canon prime lenses. The build of a 50mm f1.2 L is impressive and it's a great lens, but it's just not as sharp as it's price tag would indicate (even stopped down). Shortly after it was released it's new value plummeted and stayed quite low for a long time. Then one day Canon raised it's prices and bumped it's price point because it was erm...f1.2 and therefore worth more. The saddest thing is that it's really tricky lens to use and one which most people go for if they are dabbling with a pro prime lens itch. The 35L and 85IIL are far better performing lenses.
I'm sure that Canon have a new set of 50's in development, but when is anyone's guess.
As to 85mm lenses....Canon already have those covered and they are both awesome.
Wife tried shooting XTi with 70-200 IS2 + 1.4 TC3 through glass pane for birds at feeders. The focus confirms, but results are horrible. I put the lens setup on my 5D3 and get the same horrible results.
When shooting the same distance without glass pane in the path, focus is dead on for both cameras. The glass pane is squeaky clean.
Any ideas? I'd guess trying a polarizer but I don't have one the correct size...
How much experience does a person need with the 7D II to shoot in single point, single shot AF mode at stationary objects? That is about as basic as it gets.
You presume that the camera was in single shot AF mode. But where is ashmadux telling that?
What about the presetting of the One Shot AF release priority? is it on Focus or on Release?
Are we outside or inside of the MFD of the lens?
Which lens is used and which single point is used? Not every AF point might be used for every lens, see manual of 7D2.
Is AFMA necessary and done if needed for this lens?
Was there enough light to do a decent AF?
It all seems simple, but if even is mentioned "In my test, the Af began to work when set to spot af. Regular Af select was not working at all." then I have doubts about the knowledge from someone who mentions that Regular AF select was not working at all, which I interpret as AF 65-point automatic selection. How can that work? You don't have any control anymore on the AF at that moment. Might be used for a subject against a flat background like a bird in front of the blue sky. And if Ashmadux is using 65-point automatic selection as the regular AF mode, then a lot of the situation is clear to me !!!
I don't want to tell that the 7D2 is a better camera then the 6D. No, not at all for portrait or landscape because the 6D is a FF, but for action, the AF is better then the 6D. You need to understand al the features of the AF. This is not a camera to start photography.
I've seen lately several photos of "so called" bad AF of 7D2 here on internet, however, they are mostly caused by wrong use of the camera/situation/expectation.
<p>We’re told that Canon hasn’t been fully satisfied with the sales of the Canon EOS 6D, a camera which I personally love for its size and simplicity. We’re told that the next iteration of the camera is likely to move upmarket
Sounds like a good observation. I have had two 6D's (last one stolen) and love the IQ of this camera as well as it's size. However, I think that just the number of autofocus points causes many to look at other choices. Unfortunately, as I like many others only use the center point anyway.....
My best guess is a price point of 2295 body only for a 6D ii or whatever they call it.
Since you are such an experienced photographer and the M and the T2i according to you have much better autofocus system, stick to what works.
Maybe just stick with your T2i, M, and 6D. Just a guess but if you rented the 5DMIII or the 1DX I am sure the Af would fail for you as well.
You are correct - when Af is critical, say, at fashion week, the t2i is my lead until it bets a bigger brother.
When i rent the 5d3 ill let you know, to see if your un-educated guess was true or fail.
The comparing with the cars that Neuro made is just the same. If you are not used to drive a Porsche with manual gearbox and manual clutch and compare that with the car you are used to with automatic gearbox. Then you will decide an hour later that it is to complicated, that he is missing the contact between driver and road, but if you learn to use that car, then you will regret to step in your regular car again.
Don't get me wrong, for portraits and landscape the 6D is much better then the 7D2, but for action, no men, that will be won by the 7D2 when you can drive that car .
Here is the car comparison problem as it relates to these two bodies.
You are comparing cars.
You should be comparing a car to a pickup truck.
An action camera to a stills camera.
I found the 5DII to be more accurate for still photography than the 7D. It wouldn't be beyond possible that the 5DIII or 6D would be more accurate than the 7D II for still photography.
Look, you said you didn't try to discredit the AF performance when you did. That's just fact as shown above.
You had trouble making a simple mode of AF to work that I as a pretty inexperienced photographer (just 3 years as a very part time hobbyist) had no issue with. Then again it is what I use the most.
You used this experience to suggest that the reviewer in question was right about the camera. Not that you had a bad copy or might have made some mistake but presented it as evidence he was right.
I say, based on my brief experience, the one other person I know who raves about the camera and yes the majority of reviewers that you either made a mistake or had a unit that wasn't working correctly. I am also seeing daily new galleries of excellent images shot with this camera that simply wouldn't be possible with the AF system as you describe it.
So, I'll try once again. Although we only have your word for it I take at face value everything you have said about your rental experience with that one copy of the camera. I accept it, I would hate to think that I had spent so much time debating this with the kind of person that would make such a thing up. Just take it from me, I'm in no way denying what you say happened, okay? I don't think I have ever said that you didn't have this experience.
What I have said is that if you really are attempting to present that as being typical of the experience that 7dII users who work with the camera will have then you are pushing the bounds of credibility.
For what it's worth, no you don't have the nicest tone but what the hell, it's not like we're neighbours so we don't have to put up with each other any more than we need to do we?
Have some perspective. You dont see me here trying to discredit the AF as not bein ggood enough.... I stated that I along with others had problems with the AF, as did I. If you works for you, great.
Fascinating. So what did you mean when you said:-QuoteI have the set of test shots from the recent rental i did. Af was basically a disaster. I was going to use it for a test shoot, but very glad the weather didnt hold up- it would have been a complete waste of time. Sot Af helped, but even with that, the images were not as good as my M, and nothing close to my old workhorse t2i. Without af accuracy, the camera is a brick. There's nothing left to do with it.
I would hate to see just what you would write if you were trying to "discredit" something.Quote
"But it worked for me!" Is not a rational response - you cannot discredit someone else's experience because it wasn't your own. That's just being foolish.
This is a photog forum, is it that hard to figure that many people in here know how to use cameras? You guys are a trip.
I'd have a think about what you've written so far before you accuse others of being irrational. It seems the large majority can get this AF system to work for them much better than you are suggesting it did for you. If you're in a minority of people that can't it has to be worth questioning your experience, I know that if I was in your shoes I would. I'd at least wonder if the copy I rented had a fault or if I had missed something.