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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why haven't you left canon?
« on: September 29, 2014, 10:27:42 AM »
I just think the Canon bodies are better looking than Nikon....A7 on the other hand reminds me of my old Canon F1, which was rather beautiful! If I 'jump ship' it will be an A7r mk2 body with adapter as a megapixel supplement  to my everyday workhorse Eos6D....

most of us have been somewhat disappointed that our beloved brand Canon didn't introduce a higher megapixel sensor to rival that of the competition...

"Most" of us?

What do you base that speculation on?
I think he was talking about the trinity.
"I, Me and Myself""

 :) :) :) :) :)

most of us have been somewhat disappointed that our beloved brand Canon didn't introduce a higher megapixel sensor to rival that of the competition...

"Most" of us?

What do you base that speculation on?

Almost every rumor, review, discussion and reply  I have read so far on the web, here and elsewhere laments the fact that Canon has not brought out a higher megapixel camera to rival the A7r and 800/e/810 and improve dynamic range, as it is perceived by many to be lacking in competitive shadow noise.....Keith I am sure you would probably disagree with that but that is MY impression ....

Thanks Ron! I agree re sharpness grain doesn't really matter if the image is strong...and when I look back at a lot of my 'old' film images now they all look a lot 'softer' than my modern digital imagery.

Enclosed a 25000 iso shot of my daughters school play.

Iso 2500 as an intermediate step is awkward, for best iq try to use full "analog" sensor iso stops (100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, ...). All other values are derivatives and only modified digitally, as a result you're simply losing dynamic range without gaining image quality. Reminds me of the times when I shot iso 1250 with my 60d, doh.

You are right of course. But, this is a 25 000 iso shot not 2500 iso. Actually it should be 25600 iso, its the 'max' setting of the Eos6d before turning on the even higher so settings, which I haven't even looked at nor used!

What most often happens is that I set the camera on auto iso and then I think these strange iso's get picked automatically by the camera.....

The scary things is that I really cant claim any 'superior' technique...the camera did it all, I just pointed the lens in the general direction I thought would be best! ;)

Here is something from the Eos M..same sensor as old 7d for all practical purposes. 1600 iso at f4 on the 22f2. Definitely not in the 6d's league, but pretty usable me thinks....especially when I think what I paid for it!

I like it when I need to eliminate very high iso noise, but for general stuff LR works even easier for me....

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 7D MK2 RAW Files
« on: September 25, 2014, 08:25:04 AM »
Has anyone with access to 7d2 raw files tried processing them in DPP4 ? I am not in the market for an aps-c body, FF gives me the quality I need and want. For me the interest in the 7d2 was in seeing what the latest Canon sensor R&D was capable of. But I just cannot believe that the high iso quality of the 7d2 is s till the same as the 7d, especially when Canon claim there is an improvement. So forgive my scepticism on the images and comparisons posted here...I need more proof! ;)

Yeah, I swore I will keep my 5d2 until the 5dmk4 came out..then I picked up a 6d and read a few reviews. I have one now and just love it and have not regretted it for a moment! I cannot believe how much better it is than the 5d2 except for two things: low iso quality is the same and damn do I wish it had a joystick like the old5D2!

So I am pretty sure once 7d2 owners have coveted and compared a bit life will become miserable until ownership of the 7d2 and then of course for some a bit of buyers remorse :)

The nice thing is that when one gets in right in the beginning of a new product release one has 3years or so before the next one is due. I sold my old 5d2 for 50% of what I paid after 4years ...I really can't complain.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Posting about sensors and DR!
« on: September 25, 2014, 08:03:46 AM »
I don't care. I am not forced to read each and every post here. I have free will and can choose to read, respond or ignore.

Yes its because it is...just saw now that the sharpening was at default in LR for the first twoimages whereas in DXO I turned it have sharp eyes :)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Eos6D at 25000iso...image quality reality check!
« on: September 25, 2014, 07:16:07 AM »
With the launch of the 7d2 most of us have been somewhat disappointed that our beloved brand Canon didn't introduce a higher megapixel sensor to rival that of the competition.....but you know what we have right now still works pretty well...

I have the cheaper 6D that I use daily for my professional work and also for my private photography. This cameras high iso quality has just blown me over. Of course I have not compared it to the competition but the image quality of this camera has never let me down professionally. Personally I would like a few more pixels at 100 iso.

Enclosed a 25000 iso shot of my daughters school play. First image as it appears in LR without any tweaking also a 100% crop of the same image to show noise etc. the first two images are at LR default settings which include some sharpening.

Last image is after Raw processing via  DXO optics pro 9 using the 'prime noise reduction tool' and then in LR I added a bit of 'grain' afterwards to my own taste. No sharpening for the DXO image. for me a high iso image shouldnt be devoid of noise, hence the added grain which also helps to improve the 'look' of sharpness. Actually sharpening the image didn't really improve it much so I left it as is - something I have noticed before with high iso images...

What I see here is that I could open the shadows quite a bit (contrary to conventional wisdom)and also that there was  still quite a lot of detail  left in the highlights. Also that the noise reduction software is really very very good and that its just really a matter of taste how much more or less one wants to reduce the noise. I have made quite large prints, A3 to A2, of these 25000 iso images and the image quality is just superb! Of course one cant use 25ooo iso images on every subject matter but with lighting conditions like in the sample image here it works just well!

I am not saying its the best or better than Nikon, Sony, Fuji etc...I really couldn't care, just that its pretty good for my requirements and in fact, for an old timer like me that grew up with film and large view cameras ...I just cant believe how good and easy we have it today!

These images are not an illustration of absolute image quality but just to show how good our existing technology is and what can be achieved with a few tweaks in software...

More of my high iso images can be seen here:

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 25, 2014, 03:35:19 AM »
Apart from the 'untested' Samsung the highest pixels in apsc is 24mp so about 10% increase in pixels compared to the Canon offering. That's not enough to switch systems imo. The 7d2 image quality is untested as yet. The few off the cuff jpegs are really no indication of image quality of the 7d2. So no one can say right now that the sensor is rubbish. It may not be what we wanted but it may be very good ito of Canons definition of image quality. Sounds reasonable to me.

If the 7d2 is to be THE apsc sports camera with 'only' 20mp but very good high iso quality, I am happy with it. After all the 1dx is 'only' 18mp and I have yet to hear anyone complain about that.

I am not in the market for the 7d2 nor the 1dx nor the 5d3, for me the 6d has just been the most amazing commercial tool ito features and price/quality ratio. The lamented low 'dynamic' range everyone  complains about has been a non event practically speaking in my experience. The 6d sensor has an amazing ability to capture highlights, which are more important to me than shadow detail....I am not really into HDR looking images...

I have been using high iso more often than I would like to admit, they are just so good. It has opened a whole new world for me ito more flash power, shooting in really dark environments handheld etc etc.

What I would like to have is a higher mp FF camera and MR Canon has promised that...I am willing to wait a bit longer for that. I am sure even if the rumored beast from Canon is going to cost 8/9 K the technology will eventually filter down to cheaper more consumer orientated models that are also more affordable.

In the meantime the 6D is 90% there ito what I need right now in low iso image quality an 100% ito high iso image quality.

I, for one, ( and reading here probably the ONLY one!), am prepared to take the man at his word and wait a bit longer....

And if all else fails in the short term there is always the possibility of an A7R MK2 with a EF lens adapter..... :)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Some thoughts on the 7D2...
« on: September 17, 2014, 03:59:53 AM »
My sincere apologies 'whothafunk', I should have give it more thought...perhaps you can ask the admin to re-route to a thread you think more appropriate.

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