I bought a 6D a few weeks ago and I never use my two 450D's anymore.
I think that says it all.
I think that says it all.
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I dont have either camera, 7D or 6D (I use a 550D), but I do read a lot about gear, so I think I can comment here. Especially on the autofocus part, because from people that actually use it, they say that as long as they use the center point, the camera is actually very very capable AF wise. Fast and accurate.
If I was in your shoes, I´d go 6D, no hesitation.
6. I won't be selling my flash. The flash is only used during event photography, where an additional light source required.
No one said sell it now but you will (probably) end up selling it with 6D. High ISO on FF are that good. As long as you're not out in the woods, FF+f1.4ish+PP = Night vision.
Just to quote HCB: (shooting with flash) "is impolite...like coming to a concert with a pistol in your hand."
Still need a flash for fill and strongly backlit situations and more serious portraiture (off camera). 600ex-rt supports focal lengths up to 200mm, which makes the 70-200 more useful indoor for events.
Get a 6D and throw that 50mm 1.8 in the bin. Get a 50mm 1.4 and it'll be your new best friend. You will learn to see light totally different. With my 500D / 60D / 7D I was totally an advocate of using off camera flash in low light situations but not with my 5Diii, I hardly have it on and I hardly take the 50mm 1.4 off, I do like shallow dof and blown out backgrounds though. you might enjoy the sigma 35mm 1.4, it's kind of like having 2 50mm portrait shots next to each other if you like something on the wider side, I know that 50mm isn't to everyones taste as a prime.
I currently own a 7D and 6D, my previous body was a 550D (T2i). The 6D is definitely your best option! You will be impressed with the image quality improvement over your 450D. The 7D IQ would not be much of an upgrade.
You will lose the 1.6x APS-C reach "advantage" with you longer lenses (200mm = 320mm, etc.), but I've found that I can crop FF pictures and end up with similar images - so personally I don't think its a real advantage.
The reduced depth of field of a full frame body is probably the most noticeable change from your 450D. With a FF camera, you can isolate your subject easily, even at f/4.0 or 5.6 (assuming the background isn't too close) while you need f/2.8 or less or a longer lens to effectively do that with a crop body.
I have a 50 1.4 lens and use it frequently with my 6D, so I think your 50 1.8 will still have a home in your kit. I use the 50 primarily indoors for natural light pictures and when I want really shallow DOF. The 50's are sharper at f/2.0 or f/2.8 and up however, but sometimes sharpness is not that important.
Good luck with your decision.
Get a 50mm 1.4 and it'll be your new best friend.
I agree that the 50 1.4 is worth the extra $250 over the 50 1.8. I find this focal length very useful on a full format camera.
Great situation, that you are in.
You have options, you have the experience already to know what to ask for, you have several great lenses to enjoy with your future body.
I was in a similar situation this spring (upgrading from 450D) - as posted in:
I got some good advice back, and made the decision for 6D. I have not regretted that one second. It is simply a completely different experience - not least in the areas you mention: colour and detail + high ISO capability.
(I sold my 450 immediately including two of the best EF-S lenses, that I had enjoyed in the past).
Regarding lenses you have a two of the great 2.8 zooms. I am sure you will find, that they come to life wonderfully with a 6D.
You may find that you would like an in-between zoom for the range between 35 and 70mm. I use the 24-105 for exactly that, and it does a good job at that. If I take only one lens for a trip, that is the one. It comes in an attractive kit with 6D.
Enjoy your new camera and the trip.
PS: I find the 6D AF to cover my needs well (agreed that is should not be the prime choice for BIF or fast action).
PPS: I find the WiFi even more useful than I anticipated.
PPPS: I have no own experience with 7D, which is clearly a fine action-oriented crop body. However as I read your interests, FF seems to be the way to go for you.
I find that now with 6D I use primarily JPG out of camera, as these files are much better than what I used to get. I use almost fully standard settings for the JPG-generation (did add one step of sharpening).
This requires from me that I set the white balance according to the situation.
However I must admit, that I am not done with optimizing my PP-workflow yet - and I am sure that I will come back to exploring RAW for further improvements (hence I do save RAW-files still in most cases). Only thing is, that just now it is much more fun to make photos with the 6D than to juggle with such things.
Thanks emag and jerome2710.
Any particular brand of suction cup mount you recommend? ... which ones are you using?
before last year I would have disagreed with jerome, but now I agree. my uncle brought a 550D from Taiwan to the states and went to Niagara Falls. he took it to the vantage points below the falls where it got plenty of big drops on it but wasn't obviously splashed directly ... yet it died and had to go to Canon service to be repaired.
this past month I was out with the 5D Mark II in the cold and wet for an entire afternoon, getting rained on steadily and constantly. the rear joystick froze up near the end, although it recovered after a night of staying dry in the hotel and was fine after. that being said, I'd still take my 5DII out again in the same conditions.
however, I have less faith in the Rebel bodies. if you are going to as many extreme places as you've listed, I think it would be worth investing in a 7D (or 50D, or 40D, or a 5-series body) and keeping the 450D around in the sack as a backup.