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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: Today at 01:01:38 PM »
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http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras/eos_1d_c

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras/eos_c500

And when you step into those two models, you're in the RED Scarlet price range

Which you previously showed to be within your budget. Canon makes 4K Raw cameras. What you want is an inexpensive Canon 4K rig. Assuming the thermal design of the rumored body is adequate, I don't see any reason Canon wouldn't enable it (as at that point it would be largely software).

Either way, the notion that an iPhone will record 4k before a Canon camera is demonstrably false. ;)



[If video were my thing and I had the budget, I'd go down the RED path too]

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EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera Coming in 2015 [CR3]
« on: Today at 12:54:49 PM »

Fixed that for you ;)

To say that sensor has nothing to do with IQ is folly.

To be clear, I wasn't saying that.

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This does not make sense to me.
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If Canon wanted to put a Sony Sensor on the High MP FF it would put a cut version (same pixel size) on the 7D2.
Or else the 7D2 would be outdated very soon.

Why does the manufacturer of the sensor in a more-expensive/full frame/likely not optimized for fast action have any impact on how current a less-expensive/APS-C/optimized for fast action is?

Does the 7D2 outdate the 70D?

If it were a rumored Sony/Canon crop camera with a similar pricing, framerate, and AF system, then yes, that would outdate the 7D2.

Personally, I find it unlikely that Sony would be able to tool for DPAF sensors that quickly unless they were involved in the development of the 70D.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: Today at 11:15:02 AM »
Until they step into 2012 and put 4k RAW video in the cameras... I don't care. Even GoPro has 4K footage now... Canon is turning into the Apple of the camera world.. forever playing "catch-up."

I sold my 5Dm3 last year and moved to RED cameras. i WISH they'd make a 4k RAW camera so I could pick one up for backup.

GoPro's don't shoot raw, and RED cameras cost an order of magnitude more than a 5D-series camera once you include all the accessories that are required.

Didn't say GoPro show RAW... i said they shoot 4k... Canon can't (or won't) even make that move.. BMCC, BMPCC, Sony, Go Pro... Hell I think iPhone will make it to 4k before Canon.

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras/eos_1d_c

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras/eos_c500

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Either way: cool. Hopefully sourcing sensors will bring down the cost.

Sony's going to want a piece of the action; my guess is that it raises prices.

I'm guessing that Sony can sell Canon sensors at a profit for less than Canon can produce them. But I suppose it's a pipe dream that, if true, any of that savings shows up in MSRP.

On the other hand, I hope Canon doesn't get out of the sensor business entirely -- we need more competition.

Sony, Aptina, Toshiba, Samsung, Fuji, Foveon, etc. are all pushing innovation. I agree that more is better, but one fewer player in a component game isn't necessarily going to impact the market significantly.

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EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera Coming in 2015 [CR3]
« on: Today at 09:44:20 AM »
Would you rather have an in-focus shot from a Canon 50/1.4 or an out-of-focus shot from an Otus?

See here:

Focus has no bearing on the image quality

;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera Coming in 2015 [CR3]
« on: Today at 09:38:23 AM »
If they all have the same level of input, then yes.

Which belies the notion that IQ is a sensor property. It is about much more than the sensor. It is about input, signal chain, and post.

So you personally know more about digital cameras and reviewing digital cameras than any other person out  there that does it?

Since you're such an expert, why don't you start your own review based website?

It doesn't take a digital camera expert to look at two Images made using the exact same sensor and conclude that there is more to Image Quality than sensor.

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How does sony have that capability? They must expend vast resources on their fab lines.

Either way: cool. Hopefully sourcing sensors will bring down the cost.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: January 27, 2015, 07:21:38 PM »
I'm still proceeding under the assumption that the "big megapixel" camera is actually a DPAF sensor where the megapixel count of images will be half that of the number of photosites.  So, I'm expecting a 26-ish mp camera.  Which would be fine with me, I don't need and truthfully can't handle (processing) over 50 megapixels.

Is the 70D specified as a 40 MP camera?

Like Foveon - 51mp - three layers 17mp each...

Hardly relevant to how Canon specifies cameras with multiple diodes per pixel location.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sony A7 II Review.
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:05:17 PM »
b) Sensors nowadays are very close in terms of performance, despite constantly being said otherwise.
c) Is this Sony's A7 2nd generation FF superiority?

Per that review, while it's a second generation of the camera's design, it's the same sensor as the original model.

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EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel Camera Coming in 2015 [CR3]
« on: January 27, 2015, 09:43:44 AM »
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In reality, image quality is a subjective term. It is a property of the image viewed, and varies by viewer to viewer. There are certain objective measures of sensor performance, but none of them should be summarized as "image quality".

As I've mentioned before, reviewers all over the Internet would disagree

Ah yes, the Internet, with its vast array of infallible experts. Where else could nonsense spread with such efficiently that there is currently an epidemic of a disease in a nation where it was eradicated?




You clipped my quote. If Image Quality is a property of the sensor, then all Images produced using the same sensor (at same gain) must be of equal Quality, agreed?

Since that is clearly inconsistent with reality, the premise must be wrong, regardless of what reviewers all over the Internet say.

Those same reviewers would claim that every Image I make with my D7100 is of higher Quality than every Image I make with with my 5D3, and that both are always bested by my A7R. Neither claim is true. The Quality of my final Images depends on a hell of lot more than the sensor I happen to capture the initial data with.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: January 27, 2015, 09:30:04 AM »
Sony just announced today the next generation of big MP and yes it is a 50mb version.  Now this is interesting are we going to see a sony sensor in a canon? 

I hope not.

If it meant that Sony was the only game in town, I'd agree. But Toshiba, Aptina, Samsung, etc. are producing viable sensors, so if Canon has decided it isn't worth keeping the line going, I couldn't care less.

None of them make a dual pixel sensor that I know of.

Fair enough.

Personally, in a camera like this, I'd put higher priority on the noise and signal chain characteristics than whether it can do phase detect with the sensor (particularly since I would likely often pair it with MF lenses)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: January 26, 2015, 11:15:46 PM »
Sony just announced today the next generation of big MP and yes it is a 50mb version.  Now this is interesting are we going to see a sony sensor in a canon? 

I hope not.

If it meant that Sony was the only game in town, I'd agree. But Toshiba, Aptina, Samsung, etc. are producing viable sensors, so if Canon has decided it isn't worth keeping the line going, I couldn't care less.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: January 26, 2015, 08:07:11 PM »
I'm still proceeding under the assumption that the "big megapixel" camera is actually a DPAF sensor where the megapixel count of images will be half that of the number of photosites.  So, I'm expecting a 26-ish mp camera.  Which would be fine with me, I don't need and truthfully can't handle (processing) over 50 megapixels.

Is the 70D specified as a 40 MP camera?

No.  But the talk prior to it being released was that there was a 40-something mp APSC camera coming.  So, I'm just going under the assumption that this talk is exactly the same scenario.  Talk of high mp that actually turns out to be high photodiode.
I doubt it. Canon has spent significant dollars developing and producing new leases with pretty spectacular performance (so much so that, on average, the 5D3 out resolves the D800, even though it has 14 million fewer pixels). I have long suspected that they were doing that in part to prepare for a higher-resolution body (rather than doing it in the other order).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel 750D Spec List [CR1]
« on: January 26, 2015, 11:49:03 AM »
Yes. I wrote enthusiasts and hobbyists. There are many other people, not even stupid, who still buy it. He who has time and knows, is waiting....

I presume that the overwhelming majority of DSLR customers of all brands are hobbyists.

Is it possible canon will release a camera with a little extra shadow detail at base ISO? Possibly. If so, and if it's compelling and meets the value analysis, I'll buy one. There is very little I could do with a D810-type of camera from Canon that I can't do with my 5Ds, so why should I wait? (I own an A7R, but it rarely leaves the closet).

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