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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II Firmware update??
« on: March 04, 2015, 12:38:43 PM »
Takesomeone1, you are unlucky - my 7DII is just so much better than my former 7D with a very high keeper rate.

+1  my experience exactly.

Mine too

I am going to send mine in to be checked out.

EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II Firmware update??
« on: March 04, 2015, 09:43:55 AM »
I keep reading about lack of "sharp" in the 7D2, and I'm not experiencing that at all, not even a little.  Shooting it with the 100-400 v1 earlier, now the 100-400 v2, and 70-200 f4 IS ... nothing but sharp images. 

Of course, individual shots lack 'sharp', but when the set-up and timing and "me" are right, it blows images out of the water.  I'm not so sure it's all about the camera design and technology as much as it may be about individual camera and assembly or manufacturing differences which occasionally happen in mass production -- and the complex nature of that camera itself and getting use to how it operates.

I have no doubt some of your got a camera that is 'out of spec', it happens.  But I'm not ready to believe yet it's a design flaw.  I can't imagine that I can be so lucky as to get the one of the few 7D2's that shoots sharp, and get the only lenses that fit well with it.  Makes little sense to believe that.

Those that are saying images are not sharp fall into several categories.

1) they need to make afma adjustments to match the lens to the body
2) are experiencing a hardware or firmware issue (fairly common)
3) are used to the image quality of 1dx or 5d3 and notice the faults with the 7d2.

Some people who are experienced with what it SHOULD deliver never know that the camera is not performing as it should. 

The 7d2 is a complex camera with a steep learning curve. But it is evident that there are some that are just flat out bad and only produce about 5 to 10% keepers at a purely technical level. If you are happy with your model, feel lucky as there are plenty out here that are not happy with it.

The 7D II is very sharp when it hits. It isn't soft. This is the only reason I am still using mine on the 500mm.

Mine required a AFMA, from what I have read from others I think that is a common theme. Many might think the camera is soft because of this.

The 7D II AF system is not as precise as expected, that is why some may feel it is soft. This lowers  your critically sharp keeper rate. The tests I have done so far with FoCal and Lens Align show my copies precision is on par with the original 7D and 5D II. My keeper rate is on par with the 5D II and the 7D as well, and precision and keeper rate are below the 1D IV.

I think if a person is moving from a 7D or 5D II you wouldn't think much about it at all. If you own a 1 series body or the 5D III the performance wouldn't feel right.

Canon General / Re: 5Ds R Moire and Bird Feathers
« on: March 03, 2015, 10:35:37 PM »
The 7D II definitely gives a resolution bump for a focal length limited crop image.
Imagine what that benefit will be over a properly framed FF image.

Canon General / Re: 5Ds R Moire and Bird Feathers
« on: March 03, 2015, 05:23:20 PM »
Besides, after seeing the price drops on the 7DII, it doesn't seem to make much sense to be an early adopter for bodies these days...

I'll see if I can find an example - I know one was a great blue heron, but will have to do some digging and pull up the RAW file to show you guys.

Thanks, would like to see it.

I pre ordered the 7D II, and do not regret it. I will be one of the pre-order test subjects. Some of us have to buy it, try it then complain about the minor flaws in the body. Otherwise how would anyone else know if they wanted to buy one.

I had a Lens Align when Reikan Focal was announced.  I kept it around for 6 or 8 months unused past that point, and sold it.  The manual solutions depend on your ability to see tiny differences in images, and I could not consistently see them.  FoCal has been my tool of choice.  I pre-ordered it a month before it was released, and have watched as more and more capabilities were added, and as they came to understand the limitations of the AF system.  So many things affect AF accuracy that cause a test to give the wrong, or at least not the best result"  Amount of light, vibration, lens repeatability, color, detail in the target, and others.  FoCal deals with most of these things.

You could go blind trying to see subtle difference in focus with Lens Align and trying to pin point the critical point of focus. I had the best luck determining the position of the DOF by looking at the edges of the DOF and adjusting the camera adjustment to move the DOF.

It actually works very well, I use FoCal now  and will often check the results using Lens Align. Done properly both tools return the same results.

Sure why not.

Buy FoCal and do an in depth comparison also.

Lenses / Re: How do you carry your 500mm?
« on: February 28, 2015, 09:52:40 PM »
Yes, you have to attach the hood every time.

Usually only a nuisance at the start. Most of what I do I never put it back up once out.

Looking at the bag you linked I would be interested in how sturdy and how much padding it has.
Also I have concerns about leaving the hood on during transport. When the hood is on it feels like a weak link, I am not sure how well it would hold up attached in rough transport. The one review at B&W mentioned movement inside the bag, I would want the lens strapped down and secure. It would look interesting in certain situations.

Lenses / Re: How do you carry your 500mm?
« on: February 28, 2015, 09:36:22 PM »
I use the Tamrac Expedition 8X, it fits in it nicely. (Hood Reversed of course)
I also have a Lowepro Pro Trekker 400 AW

In my eyes both are about equal. Either would work.

Since you rented a 500mm I you know there is no comparison with how you carry the 100-400mm.

The best improvement from the version I to the version II 500mm is the IS and the loss of weight. It is much easier to handhold.

Lenses / Re: Could you comment my future upgrade path?
« on: February 28, 2015, 11:13:50 AM »
For your budget Mt Spokane has a good suggestion, an older 1 series body. Still take the 6D as emergency backup.
Personally If I had one I would take a 5Ds R and take a little extra care protecting it. I would be willing to take the financial risk, many people would not.

Still, even without Antartica I would unload those three wide lenses and get the 24-70 II. Maybe you use your 17-40 and need something that wide, I had a 16-35mm II for five years and hardly used it. I find 24mm is wide enough for most landscapes. If you just have to have wide, unload the two 24-xxx lenses.

Lenses / Re: Could you comment my future upgrade path?
« on: February 28, 2015, 12:08:16 AM »
None of the above.

I would be talking to others that went on the trip previously, or the service you are getting the trip from.
See what opportunities they had and what pictures you might expect.

Then I would rent the appropriate super tele for the trip if you will have a chance at wildlife. Pair it with your 7D Mark II. I am thinking the 400mm DO II might be a good candidate for the trip. But I would find out how close wildlife will be.
Personally with your kit I would unload the 17-40L, 24-70L  and the 24-105L and replace it with the 24-70 II for landscapes and a walk around lens. I would go with the 6D for that.

Once in a life time trip, rent the good stuff.

Lenses / Re: Why does 7D II seem COMPARATIVELY soft with certain lenses?
« on: February 26, 2015, 01:05:09 PM »
I tested the two cameras last month.  I saved no images.

What does AFMA mean???

Auto Focus Manual Adjustment.
You have a setting in camera you can adjust the AF system.
Its a way of calibrating your AF system.

My 7D II with the 500mm I had to set it at +4 to get good results.
At 0 I would get only a few in focus pics.

So we're still calling photographs "art", are we?


Sure, in the same way Nascar drivers and Golfers are athletes.
Makes me think of this clip from Kingpin:

Also, don't forget about the World Series (between US & Canadian baseball teams) or the World Champions of the NBA Championship and NFL Superbowl played by, um, all American teams :P

Seems I forgot bowling.

I do go to a few NBA games, I have to say those guys are athletes.
Now if the NBA finals are rigged, or if it is a set up for show is a different conversation entirely.
How about this, is Pro Wrestling a Sport?

Back to Art.
Here is a thought for a definition of art;

If it looks like something your 5 year old produced, and if you would have found it worthy to put on the refrigerator. It is Art.

It is a low standard.

So we're still calling photographs "art", are we?


Sure, in the same way Nascar drivers and Golfers are athletes.

I have both the 7DII and the 5DIII and this lens.

I've had problems with it hunting on the 5DIII but I'm not yet sure if it is my technique or not.

Focus is fast on the 7DII but I'm getting soft images most of the time.  I can't match anything like
the sharpness of this image (7DII, 400mm DO mark I, 1.4x III, hand held):

Did you 600mm owners have to do the front/back focus adjust with that lens (I've never done it with any lens, I typically get good results without it).

I get better results using live view, this was live view (so the mirror was locked up):

If I tried to take that same pic without the mirror locked up I got nothing but blur.

So far, this lens is pretty frustrating for me, I get good results with the 400mm & 1.4x (which is 560mm)
hand held; I can't match those results tripod mounted.  I use a gitzmo and a gimbel (knockoff of the
good one, wimberly I think?).  I'd love to be told how to use this lens, so far I'm sucking.

I don't have the 600mm but I have the 500mm II, the same should apply.

I have a 7D II, the AFMA is +4 t o +6 on the 500mm, all my other bodies are right at 0 on the lens. I bet it is your camera not your lens. You need to check it. While the 7D II has some issues, you still should be getting a fair amount of really sharp pictures.

Also for hunting, and this applies to the OP as well, if you are shooting in AI Servo then it may be a setting issue. Switch to Single Shot / Single Point and see if your lens is hunting. If it doesn't hunt in Single Shot mode maybe it is the sensitivity of one of your settings in AI Servo.

Read the manual and use the AF preset on the lens. That helps.

I bought a 7D II when it was released. My 500mm F/4 II takes about 1.5 seconds to refocus when racked on the opposite end. With the 1D IV attached it takes half that long, about .7.  So body does matter. The 7D II hunts more than the 1D IV.

Battery strength might matter to. Do you have other batteries to compare?

Your example, focusing at 30m then going to 200m. Remember the lens has to pick up on something. If it is a tree line and you are at f/4 and focused close you are asking the lens to focus on something that appears to be bokeh. This can happen with BIF, the sky is so OOF that the lens isn't picking any contrast and it hunts till it finds contrast.

On Page 99 of the 5D III manual.
Try both settings on AF4, Lens drive with AF impossible

I use the ON setting. The manual recommends the OFF setting.
Whichever you have been using, try the other.

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