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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: May 10, 2012, 02:38:17 PM »
DEAR EVERYONE WHO POSTED ON HERE, I FINALLY BOUGHT MY 5D MARK 3.

Thank you for all of your help, got a brand new one, light leak issue fixed. With that said, here is my first image out of the camera that i deemed somewhat portfolio quality made the border myself with brushes, and secondly a picture of my family :D

Anyways, i'd love to shoot weddings with someone in the central nj area? Can anyone help me out here, put me in contact or recommend me to a photographer that'd be awesome!

Thanks for all he help guys much love!

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The company i deal with i believe uses drop ship websites so returns really aren't a option. They're also known to rip people off over the internet, i just want to know i'm getting the actual wholesale price from them.

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Lenses / Re: Filters - how important are they?
« on: May 07, 2012, 10:42:44 PM »
THIS! SOMEONE ANSWER THIS, i have nearly all L glass and i have no filters, what should i get and why!?

24-70, 70-200 2.8 is usm MARK II, 50 1.4, what filters and why?

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I'm buying through a warehouse and they said the price was $3,400 who can help me confirm this, or tell me if they're lying.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 27, 2012, 12:45:45 AM »

Secondly, i NEED the AF, i'll be doing sports photography here at school for at least 3 years, if i'm going to come back needing to shoot sports i'm going to get a camera that can keep up with my subjects.

I WILL BE GETTING THE 5D3, however this thread is INVALUABLE to people who want to jump into the Full Frame as an amateur doing it as a hobby. I get paid for my shots that's how i can justify the price now.

Hey NJ Kita...notice most here ignored my post, it tells you that it's truthful/accurate...the d800 is a slightly better camera...ouch, it hurts a little to those of us that bought the 5d3 and have significant glass(like u and I)

At the end of the day, you will notice a slight improvement over the 7d...and mostly in low light situations...the improvement you will notice with the 5d3 vs 7d in good lighting is slight....don't expect a magical improvement..the 7d is already a very good cam.

Nobody could fathom that Nikon would make a 36mp cam with very good low light and great color/d range..but they did...everyone deal with it.

Hopefully canon will make the next leap, but this time Nikon won...that's the truth. 

Bottom line, it's not enough to ditch a system, but it's clear to me that if I was advising a friend on buying their first good dslr, I would point them to the nikon d800 over then canon..all things else being equal....Especially since they could buy a d800 and a very good 50 or 85 for the same price as the 5d3 alone.



I don't disagree at all Nikon right now has a better camera, however. Canon is a boss and i will stick with them, i'm not scared. The 800 is only slightly better that's why i'm not sweating it at all. I've got good gear to throw on a 5D3 i'm set up and i can't wait to shoot with it. FACT OF THE MATTER IS: I have to finish out this week of college first. i've got 15 pages of papers to write still. I shall be having no fun with it until at least. May 4th D':

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Your advice for my first fullframe.
« on: April 26, 2012, 06:20:34 PM »
I'm gonna direct you to the third page of a thread i started.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=6033.30

This was when a milestone for amateur shooters was mentioned, the original 5D full frame and then they went in to detailed explanations to why it was good and what it was phenomenal for.

CHEERS MATE!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 26, 2012, 03:23:24 PM »
Gentlemen, you are forgetting that, i have saved up for this camera and i can afford it, i was just looking in terms of the reviews that it got from DxO that the some how rated it so poorly (in regards on not being able to justify spending 3.5K), but after i compared the cameras side by side and looked at all the graphs the D800 has a slight edge over the 5D3 but not 14 points over it.

Secondly, i NEED the AF, i'll be doing sports photography here at school for at least 3 years, if i'm going to come back needing to shoot sports i'm going to get a camera that can keep up with my subjects.

I WILL BE GETTING THE 5D3, however this thread is INVALUABLE to people who want to jump into the Full Frame as an amateur doing it as a hobby. I get paid for my shots that's how i can justify the price now.

Third, it meets all the requirements that i plan to be using it for, it is the perfect wedding/low light camera, and boy that feature will be abused in my hands.

Just a little input from the Original Poster to keep this thread interesting. I've made my decision, you guys have all helped immensely. But my favorite addition was bringing up the 5Dc great topic, and seemingly great camera, if i didn't shoot what i shoot. That's most likely what i would've picked up as well as a couple L lenses. :P

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 26, 2012, 01:21:56 PM »
Can someone please link me to a 5Dc i can't find it.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 26, 2012, 01:14:18 PM »
This whole thing started off as advice and now it's a self-esteem booster. hahaha Thank you so much guys!

But yeah Drizzt321 you got it, they're looking to use the vast amount of lenses a professional in the business would have. However in the end of it Nikon lenses are more expensive. They're going to be starting all over which frankly isn't justifiable for me. Hell yeah i'd love to be able to work with a professional and shoot with 24 f1.4 35 f1.4 135 f/2 16-35 f/2.8 85 1.2 but fact of the matter is i will own a majority of these lenses one day.

So i'm not even sweating it. Plus i may have the advantage of having access to both systems now. And hey maybe the Professional will ask them to grab a friend with a 5D3 to shoot this low light wedding. So options are all here, you just have to look farther than f/22.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 26, 2012, 12:56:44 PM »
Knowing what you're talking about as well as being able to do what your talking about is key so do what you can to brush up on technique, all the technical mumbo jumbo, and composition.  All the gear in the world wont make up for bad technique, but good technique can compensate for bad gear.

You hit the proverbial nail on the head! My brother is on who has preached this to me for years! Sees me spending all this money on gear and just shakes his head. He is a big preacher you can do this for much less just by knowing more.

This is some of the best advice i've seen on here so far. Kudos to you. Awinphoto.

20 points to Gryffindor.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 26, 2012, 12:26:46 PM »
Well I read the whole thing and I'm impressed by your hard work, initiative, and attitude.

You clearly have a passion for photography, and as long as it's something you enjoy doing, you should pursue it.  The dream of most people is to have a career doing something that they love.  Most don't get to have this, because they wait too long to figure out what they like, and by that time they've already got mortgages or families or debts, and they're forced to do any kind of job to pay the bills.

You're already on the right track for success.

My nephew is also 19, and obsessed by cars, and he's doing a mechanics' apprenticeship... he can't believe he's being paid to do something he enjoys so much.
Well it appears that you are building a strong foundation with great gear, finances, at least for the interim under control and got your ducks lined up in a row... When I went to school for photography, i got a 10D (brand new release at the time, woo hoo)  and got crappy lenses to shoot with...  Then spent the last decade upgrading bodies/lenses/knowledge to keep up with the market.  Keep working hard and dont get discouraged when things get tough.  A lot of upcoming pros wash out because they get discouraged, run out of money, and dont see it through.  Learn your basics, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, take business classes and finance classes...  As well as marketing and the like.  They will help you keep your photography business from turning into a photography non profit.  A lot of "photography" fine arts schools and even Fine Arts majors do not require a heavy allotment of business classes to graduate, but you need those to keep you afloat once you start to take off.  You need to have the skills and gear but you also need business savvy to keep you viable and in the black.  Good luck and stick with the 5d3, as a body system as a whole, it's miles ahead of the 5d2, even though the sensor size is similar. 

P.S., if you like Top Gun, Top Gun 2 is in the works and Tom Cruise is back as maverick. 

The biggest thing i have to work on is staying motivated. It's so easily to get discouraged! I started off with 2 other guys who shot Canon with me, they're now switching to Nikon because they work exclusively with a man who does big wedding events, indian weddings, on Nikon format. So i got kinda left in the dust in regards to a team :'(

In regards to going to school for photography, i'm attending college for a public relation degree, the photography jobs are just something that i do because
1) I love shooting, and i love getting paid to shoot
2) Do i really need more than that?

Photography is sort of crutch, i've talked to many professionals about going to school for photography and they said at this point in the digital era it's not worth it. If you have a good portfolio that's really all people need to know. If you can get the same types of shots from someone who does have a degree what does the degree matter?

I hope to go in to Public Relations for Live Events for Red Bull. I could plan the events, have an assistant or my team run it, while i shoot it. Get paid for two jobs? Ideally. But i hope i can make it work!

It's Either that, or i'd probably like to do Public Relations for a up and coming nuclear power. A Company that focuses on Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors is a company i want to work for. I've put a lot of research into this technology and it's just insane how amazing it is. A Million Times more powerful than fossil fuels, ZERO CARBON EMISSIONS, and we can burn up nuclear waste in the reactors Molten salt core. So the uranium 235 that were waiting 24,000 years to decay into something safe... we could use that to power this reactor.

Anyways, as you can see, i roll with the punches.  8) Such a boss? Yeah i know.  :P

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 26, 2012, 03:54:35 AM »
What I'd like to know is how does a 19 year old student afford all of that camera gear?  Very generous parents or an amazingly well-paid summer job?  I'm in my 30s with full-time paid employment, and *I* can't afford that stuff hahah.   ;D

GOOD QUESTION ALLOW ME TO BRAG.

TL;DR at the bottom for all you lazy people.

Now in all seriousness, think about my situation. 19 years old, my parents are fortunate enough to afford me going to college. That is their gift to me, paying for my college. With that said, i'm helping them out by becoming a RESIDENT ASSISTANT next year, i got the job and my college housing is free next year. I cut my tuition by $11,000 for my parents.

With this said, i started working at 17, got a good job and worked around 20 Hours a week at 17. A Few months later i got a promotion from 7.50 to $8, 9, when i work as a manager when the boss is out. Again still being in high school living at home with NO BILLS TO PAY. I would work around 12 hours a week year round, bumping up my hours to a max of 25 hours a weed during the summer.

Prior to that i had already saved up around $800 birthdays, i researched for 4 years before finally buying a camera, i originally was going to buy a Nikon D200, then i wanted the D300, then when i worked a wedding with my father, who is a DJ (Also made money on the side with this) , i met a photographer who shot canon, around the time when the 7D came out, he suggested i get that or the 50D.

Did my research 7D was for me. Bought shitty lenses with it, 50mm, and 28m f2.8. Just stupid stupid naive purchases... Bought the 10mm Fisheye from sigma One of my favorite purchases everwanted versatility, bought the sigma 18-200 3.5-6.3. Quality sucked, wanted professional glass. Had my dad SPOT ME A GRAND, picked up the 28-300 L 3.5-5.6.

This combination opened up a new position for senior year for me. The Student Photographer position. I made $9 to shoot sports. Worked 2 jobs. Paid off that lens. Bought the 24-70, worked a buttload and just saved. Saving, saving, saving. It's my hidden talent apparently.

Summer comes, i want bokeh, i go to Allens camera in PA, sell my 28mm, 18-200 (Which i regret right now) and the 28-300. Got the Gary Fong light sphere collapsible pro, as well as a REFURBISHED 70-200 IS USM f2.8 Mark II. IT WAS FLAWLESS.

My friend switched to Nikon, picked up his 50mm 1.4 for like $280?

Finally get to college and i'm shooting a football game with my gear, i see a guy come off the field and i want a field pass i asked how to get one. He brings me up to the box to talk to Sheila. Sheila basically looks at my gear, says we have a job opening let me see your Sportfolio©. I show her, i get the job, i now have a $9 a job at school as a freshman. I'm getting like 10 hour weeks.

And now i'm here, waiting to work weddings, combo up with my father. The killa combo.

But some key facts allow me to have all of this gear.

1.) I Don't pay for a house, bills, college,
2.) I don't have a car, people buy cars, i buy cameras. (Family has 5 people in it, we have 5 cars. 2 from deceased family members)
3.) I'm in college, a lot of kids blow the money they saved on DRUGS, i'll be blunt... and apparently punny. But kids spend a lot of money on alcohol and marijuana. I hustle my way into parties for free.

In the end of it all, i've paid my father back all the money he's loaned me and i now PERSONALLY OWN all of my gear, and it feels amazing to know that. I've already accomplished something great and it just feels so good to know that I ACTUALLY WORKED FOR IT. If it was all handed to me, i wouldn't love photography as much as i do. So to answer your question now i don't have parents that spoil me! :D

To long; Didn't Read?

TL;DR: I can afford all of my camera gear as a 19 year old because i don't have many fiscal responsibilities  yet such as Bills, car insurance, college, and or splurging on drugs. Plus i've just been fortunate in creating jobs for myself or coming upon job opportunities because of my gear/vast knowledge of gear from reading and studying cameras and the technical aspects for photography. Don't just learn how to do it, KNOW how it works/why it works and how to do it. Lastly, i just can stretch a dollar very well, i learned how to get money and keep money. Open a savings account and just leave the money in there. Save as much as you can.

That's my 2 cents. Cheers.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 26, 2012, 03:15:46 AM »
By the way...so cool to see a 19 yo that quotes/posts a top gun link....one of the great movies of all time

Hahahaha Northstar! Were you losing faith in my generation or something?

ANYWAYS TO RESOLVE THIS POST (at least for me) I'm going to buy the 5D3 I've been itching for the full frame advantage for too long now!

Thank you everyone who keeps posting as well as all of those who entered information.

To streamline it, DxO numbers mean nothing Compare the two cameras together and look at the charts. SO SIMILAR.

1.) D800 Better for Landscape Low iso's allow for higher Dynamic Range where the D800 is king! However by the time you get to Iso 800 the cameras basically become the same in regards to SNR and DR

2.) 5D3 Redefines Auto focus system, metering system, iso performance in low light. When you buy this camera you plan on having it for at least! 3-4 years! 1460 DAYS

NOW FOR SOME MATH

3,500/1460 = $2.40 a day if you own it for four years and don't sell it. At 4 years it will have costed you $2.40 a day to own.

However if you sell it for whatever it's worth at that point? $2350 used? To get a new body, you'll have spent .79 cents a day to keep that camera. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA NOW HUH?

Oh simple math, how convincing you are. I'll definitely make well over 3K with this camera just from work with it.

I can justify the price now, the specs are good for me. Now what about you?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Advice: On buying 5D3.
« on: April 25, 2012, 06:28:37 PM »
Photophreek, i get it, i'm a bitch.. Hahaha

But in all honesty, it all makes sense. I'll most likely post back once i have it, which will be in about a week and a half. Waiting to get home from college to buy it through a wholesale warehouse near me. Get it for market price! CHICKA CHICKA YEAH YEAH.

Mission Successful: We can all go home boys!

TOP GUN ANTHEM Small | Large

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Should I Upgrade to Full-Frame
« on: April 25, 2012, 05:37:20 PM »
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/full-frame-advantage.htm

Have you read this? Great read, i love referring to Ken because his website educated me a TON on stuff like this.

Even though ISO is relative in all cameras, when you look at full frame you have to think of the sensor as a light dish, the more light you can collect at once the less sensitive (Lower iso) you need the sensor. If you follow to my knowledge full frame allows you to keep the iso fairly low. While still getting good images. I haven't had this confirmed yet so if anyone in here wants to. Cheers.

I think you should i think everyone should! But you have to factor in the money side of it are you going to make money off of your camera or is it simply for Sheets and giggles. Weigh the factors of how much you shoot versus the price.


My Recommendations? 7D I think it's great with iso, i've shot around 3200 and still had a usable image, even as a jpg!
Full Frame if you want the best of the best get the 5D3. Best AF and noise handling in full frame you could afford. 

The image i'm attaching is shot indoors with terribile colored lighting, not bright enough. It's average gym lighting. Shot at
1/800
ISO: 2500
F/2.8
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0nhfovRdH1qhfd0bo1_1280.jpg

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