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yeah thats great! ... But Canon comon how many people are going to professionally shoot in near darkness?

R&D have lost the plot seriously.

That you do not have a use for it does not mean that others do not. Why high ISO sensitivity is good:

* Great for high speed shots outdoors
* Great for normal shooting indoors
* Great for astrophotography
* Great for night photography

Who could put that tech to use?

* photojournalists
* astronomers (pro and amateur alike)
* wedding photographers
* sports photographers
* spectators at airshows
* event photographers
* art photographers (shooting priceless art at museums w/o flash)
* architecture photographers

That you lack imagination does not mean that others cannot put the capability to use immediately.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« on: July 09, 2013, 01:18:27 PM »
Timing could also depend on what Nikon is going to be doing with the D400.

I don't believe a word from anyone who says that Canon is waiting for Nikon to see what they do with the D400. Do these people who spout off statements like that think that even Canon, having their own chip fabs, can conjure up a sensor, firmware, amplifiers, or even a new battery and get it all into a usable, rugged, reasonably bug-free camera body (keeping in mind tolerances are on the order of microns for pro camera bodies) in a matter of weeks? No, the prototyping for a product of that scale takes months, and getting anything even remotely ready for delivery can take a year or two. It's not even a matter of throwing more money and engineers at the problem (at a certain point adding more engineers makes the project unmanageable - a lot of the design for each component is the result of linear thinking).

I don't think they're going to base sensor design on what Nikon does with the D400. If they do that, they are ceding the market to Nikon for the next two years.   They might play with announcement and delivery timing (I'd suspect Canon to announce after Nikon and deliver before Nikon since Nikon preannounces way too far in advance) but that's about all the impact Nikon would have on the 7D mk II - if there will be a mk II (I hope there will be). 

I see people comment like this all the time: "Canon is holding back the nD waiting to see what Nikon does" or "Nikon is holding the Dn back to see what Canon does first."   No, the reality is R&D takes time, and they're each sufficiently successful and have such a strong revenue pipeline that they do. not. have. to. rush. and instead bake the product until it is actually done.

They can crank out rebel after rebel after rebel because for key components they're just drawing from their existing parts bin and forking software projects, with minor tweaks so development and QA efforts are minimal, and offer a huge return for minimal investment. For the XD line (and the XXD) it's a different matter, since those models usually get the sensors, software, and other bleeding-edge components first.  That's also why the xD and xxD models cost so much initially - the first unit to roll off the assembly line cost tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to product - the second about half as much, and so on until R&D is fully amortized, enabling Canon (and Nikon) to lower the price, as the sales morph from recovering losses to earning profits.  See: amortization.

It's one thing to add a gimmicky articulated screen to a low-end camera body using screens from your parts bin and make a new plastic mold, and tweak sensor designs you borrowed from pro and semi-pro cameras and get the product out in a month or three, and quite another to develop a whole new hardware and software architecture (as well as a fab process, metal casting molds and precision machining tooling with a tolerance of a few microns for a mass-produced product) from the ground up.

If there is ANY truth to Canon basing the product on Nikon's announcement, it would likely be choosing between a selection of workable prototypes that are similar enough that the tooling for parts is already in place for each, or could accommodate minor variances with minimal effort. They're certainly not going to get a whole new chip fab process designed, tested and scaled up for production that quickly.

EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« on: May 06, 2013, 04:13:45 PM »
Ugly in here, probably. Out in the real world, though, as usual Canon will sell them like hotcakes...

Yup, haters gonna hate and declare the fall of Canon, while Canon simultaneously posts press releases indicating record sales and inability to keep up with demand for months after the replacement comes out.

If Canon were to introduce a 50 MP crop camera that goes to ISO 2,400,000 cleanly, 24 stop dynamic range, integrated intervalometer, uncompressed HDMI output, 24 fps still shooting, and a choice of CFast and SDXC storage, and AF that works down to f/11 and never, ever misses a shot and even knows telepathically what the shooter is aiming for and not focus on the closest high contrast object in full auto green box mode, and include two batteries and two 120GB storage cards, all at the price of today's 60D, AND include an L-series lens as part of the kit, haters would still find something to whine about.

EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« on: May 06, 2013, 10:34:06 AM »
I am not disappointed. If this means that the camera is going to truly be an upgrade, and a 1D-level APS-C camera as some rumors previously indicated (one rumor indicated the camera will be full-size with integrated grip), and if it means much higher DR, finally solving the shadow problems, and a weaker or eliminated AA filter, with 5D mk III-level high ISO performance or better, it is going to be well worth the wait.

But truthfully, only a handful of people outside of Canon know what the 7D prototypes are and how they perform so far, and they only know how that particular prototype they have their hands on works, not the other prototypes other trusted photographers are testing. In any event, if the original 7D's release is any indicator, the Mark II is going to be a fantastic camera.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« on: March 29, 2013, 02:46:53 PM »

* AF tracking in live view? Come on, that has to be a joke - unless this a completely other design the af pixels on the sensor only tell the camera which way to contrast af.

FTFA: "On chip phase detect pixels for liveview and AF tracking"

Of course it is a complete redesign; this is phase-detection AF (how the lens diverges the light, and fast because the camera "knows" which way to focus depending on how the light waves have diverged) rather than contrast detection (which is slow because complex algorithms have to figure out when the image is sharpest and the camera can't know which way the light has diverged). In order to integrate phase detection, unless they're being really clever with the use of photosites' data and taking the color shift of the bayer filter into account, the sensor will have specialized "pixels" to dedicate to focus. It would be similar to the normal phase detect AF sensor already in every Canon DSLR, except miniaturized and integrated into the image sensor.  Based on TFA, we can assume that they are integrating miniaturized phase-detect pixels directly into the sensor.

This will be a huge win for videographers, especially with the release of more and more STM lenses. The 7D can AF during video recording, but thanks to contrast detect it is slow since the camera has to "guess" which way to move the lens, and how far it should move. With phase detect AF (assuming sufficient light for phase detection to work) it knows pretty precisely which direction the lens needs to move, and by how much.

* GPS/WiFi - so we can expect the camera to miss the external flash (that's where the antennas are) and you have to buy a €300 or €500 (with af assist) piece of equipment just to control off-camera flash just like the 6d? That's probably also the reason why there still is no built-in rt controller even in these 7d2 specs... thanks. Canon.

WiFi?  Meh. See:

21MP APS-C? The 5D3 at ISO 102K is pretty noisy. I can just imagine what this will be like at that ISO.

If DR improvement is not mentioned it won't happen, so we shouldn't expect it or speculate about it. Same sensor as the 650D but smaller (more noisy) pixels, faster readout, better AF and Body. I'd call this camera a 6.5D.


It's not like they take the exact design they had before, shrink it down, and then add a few pixels around the edges to increase the resolution. IF that was how they made higher resolution sensors, you'd be right. Compare today's 18MP sensor to the D2000/DCS520's 2.0MP sensor at ISO 12,800.   Oh right, today's 18MP sensor is more usable at its expanded ISO than yesterday's 2.0MP sensor is at ISO 800.

Plus 1 too...   The 7DII needs to be more than this, fine with resolution stated, fine also with wifi and gps built in (easy extra sales point = higher price = higher profit margin = keep selling cameras) the AF needs to be top notch for crop at 40+ points, otherwise, the real game changer can only by the performance of the sensor which in my opinion, needs to outperform the lesser crop models, not recycle the same tech.

Are you willing to pay the price of the old APS-H model for the 7D? I ask, because that is the level of functionality that many in here seem to be demanding.

These spec are a bit "sub"...

Like a pushed-up 7100. [/quote]

AF point count? Mexapixels? How about the fact that the 7D dedicates a processor to AF, and that it has ALL cross-type points with a high-precision center point, which is better than Nikon's system? What about durability and weather sealing? Tendency toward excessively high Moire (no low-pass filter)?

What about ergonomics? Still is lacking on Nikon.

What about the fact that when the megapixel race was going on, people were slamming both companies for increasing resolution?

The truth is, people love to whine regardless of whether Canon moves to increase or decrease resolution, increase AF point count or decrease it, and hell, some people even complain that they don't want to pay for video features or for fast burst mode. For those folk, rather than buying the more appropriate Rebel or "super rebel" XXD, they whine and moan about the pro features the 7D has.  The thing is, the pro features that make up an XD model isn't rooted in megapixel count, whether or not it includes wifi, or number of AF points. It comes down to image quality, ergonomics, durability, and a mix of all of the features offered by that particular camera body.

Wait for the D400. It might be superior, if this 7D specs are true. And the D400 will be - again - cheaper....

Canon, hurry up and make it better!

Eventually Nikon will come out with something better (then certain people will threaten to jump ship to Nikon), then Canon will leapfrog them again, and people will threaten to leave Nikon for Canon. Those people blow lots of money on gear just for bragging rights, but don't even know why the gear is designed the way it is. That's fine and all (your early-adopter gadget freak mentality in essence subsidizes my gear purchase thanks to the  economies of scale!! ;)) but unfortunately that vocal few is the people who flood forums here and dpreview with all of the negativity.

all these great features and yet they still think it necessary to have to remove the battery entirely AND have an on/off switch. Not having it switched on and missing that one shot because of a memory lapse isn't really fair now is it.

The same could be said for the mode switch on top - maybe that ought to be eliminated. Eliminate Av, Tv, and M modes because it is far too easy to mess up due to a memory lapse.

Seriously, your request is ridiculous. Don't like the on/off switch? Turn it on, and hot glue, silicone, or just tape it in place. The switch is there for convenience, so that those of us who might brace the camera against a fence, a tree, or a pole to stabilize the camera on a long shot won't accidentally actuate one of the buttons on the grip. Turning it off is optional, so my suggestion to you is to just turn it on and then forget about it.

Get rid of the on/off switch! I won't even mention how ridiculous $350 is.

I'm sure Zeikos will come out with a $120 grip before too long, and then a bunch of chinese knockoffs will appear for $60 ea. But, you are complaining about the price of the grip for a $3500 body? Seriously?

ps. Canon could take some inspiration from Nikon when it comes to battery grips.

Right - as a previous user mentioned, they could require the grip to unlock certain features. They could halve the frame rate without the grip, or maybe they could cripple bracketing - oh, I know! Maybe they could eliminate some of the setting views from the two integrated displays, and move those displays into the grip, or perhaps they could eliminate the realtime clock and move it into the grip, so your photos aren't timestamped without the optional grip. I like your thinking; they could take a cue from Nikon and expand upon their business model, and create a whole new revenue stream. ;)

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