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I've outlined the legal issue. Now, let me give you the marketing advice. If I were you, I'd go to the Local and tell them:

You were really excited to see they used your picture. You would have liked to get some credit, but that's water under the bridge. What you'd really like to do is get in a position to be the Local's primary photographer.

Because you are a union electrician, you understand the jobs better than any outside photographer can. That means that when you take pictures, you will notice things that a typical photographer won't. Which means less risk of an embarrassing mistake or having to do a re-shoot.

You are concerned about the compensation because, as a union guy, you 1) need the money you get paid on jobs and can't afford to take lots of time off from paying jobs to do the photography and 2) you are sensitive to the idea that workers shouldn't be undercutting one another by doing jobs "under the table" etc.

However, you are doing this with an eye toward the future and gaining experience, so you want to be reasonable and practical about what the union can afford – maybe suggest that they pay you at the same rate as you would be getting on a union electrical job.

Oh, and you've got some ideas that they might want to consider:

How about they pick out four or five of their best union contractors and you shoot portraits of the owners or top managers to go with quotes about why they use union labor. "Here at XYZ Construction, we place an emphasis on getting the job right the first time. We never cut corners and that's why we use 100% union labor."

Meet Joe Smith. He's a union electrician and here is what the means to you.

Do a profile of an African-American union electrician that the union can use in their literature to recruit minorities.

Similarly, do a profile of an Hispanic union electrician that can be used to recruit Hispanic apprentices.

Do a brochure on what homeowners should look for in their basements, etc., for signs of wiring that is improper or unsafe.

Anyway, you get the idea. Go to them with four or five ideas of how they can use you and why you are best person for the work. Don't dwell on this incident, but use it to open doors. Maybe you become the go-to photographer for all the Locals in the area.

You took the photo with your gear so the photo belongs to you. Doesn't matter if it was on the clock or not. It is your work.

No, that is just flat out wrong. In the U.S. at least, your employer owns anything you produce on the job and oftentimes even has a claim for something you produce on your own time. (For example, if you wake up in the middle of the night with an inspiration for a product improvement, your employer has a claim to that.)

Whether or not the job is performed with your personal equipment is irrelevant. Many union electricians own their own tools. That doesn't mean they own the work they produce with their tools. Same applies to photography or anything else.

This is a little unusual here because a third party (the union) appropriated the work from the employer. Technically, I would imagine the employer could seek compensation from the union, but I don't see that happening. I doubt if a union employer wants to get crossways with the union over a picture.

The union took advantage of you, that's clear. But, you really don't have much recourse. Maybe before giving them any more pictures tell them you want credit on anything you produce.

BTW, does the union have releases from the guys in the picture?

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: DXO uh-oh?
« on: July 27, 2014, 11:10:43 AM »
Why does everyone respond to dilbert's nonsense? Can't we just ignore his posts and hope he goes away? It would make this forum much more enjoyable.

It is bit extreme to stop anyone from posting their viewpoints.

The fun part is trying to get jrista/neuro to be open with people rather than hide their viewpoints and thoughts. "DxO and Nikon are joined at the hip". How many times has that been repeated now but no substance has been given as to why anyone should think that but yet nobody wants to back away from saying that.

An alternative explanation is that most people really don't care one way or the other.

The inconvenient truth is that DSLR technology has progressed to the point where differences between brands and even between formats is so insignificant that it seldom, if ever, has any real world impact on the final product – the photograph.

This forum provides daily proof of Sayre's law: "the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake."

Perhaps DxO is biased. Perhaps Nikon and Sony have decided to "build to the test." Perhaps the differences being tested are so insignificant that the ratings have only academic and no real-world application. Most likely it's a combination of all three.

It's not like the scores have the tiniest bit of impact on the market. So really, who cares?

I agree this sounds less like a scam and more like a massive screw up, complicated by some fairly serious errors/omissions on the part of the buyer. With the additional complication that the seller is also a known problem seller.

First, the buyer says on his blog post that he paid for the camera with two credit cards on Pay Pal and bought the item on eBay. That's about four levels of protection and he needed to pursue each one immediately. Contact the credit card companies, contact Pay Pal and contact eBay.

(The link he offered to the eBay resolution center doesn't work for me. I assume because it is only available to the involved parties. So it isn't possible to see why they may have rejected the claim or even what the status of the claim is.)

I'm concerned as to why he waited so long to pursue this. If I receive the wrong item, I contact the seller immediately and directly (which is what eBay always says to do first -- contact the seller through eBay so there is a record of it with eBay). To me this sounds like a shipping department error and the seller should be able to track that down and determine that. However, given this particular seller's reputation, getting them to own up to the mistake could be a problem.

In the meantime, open up cases with eBay, Pay Pal, both credit card companies and the shipper, so you are on record with all of them and they start their processes.

Other than waiting so long, the other concern I can see is that the OP was not the original recipient of  the package. Since the chain of custody has been broken, I don't know what problems that could present. The person who originally received the package may need to be the point of contact. In hindsight, it would have been better to instruct the person he had receive the package to open it and inspect it before shipping it on to him. Perhaps some sort of a signed and witnessed statement from the addressee that they received the package and immediately forwarded it without opening might help. Hopefully, the original tracking number is still on the box.

As for the reputation of the seller: if you check CanonPriceWatch.com, the complaints about this seller focuses on the item not as advertised. Mainly, the seller claims an item is USA warranty and then ships a grey market product. In the case of this particular seller, there was a scathing, but now-removed blog post that pretty much spelled out that the company lied to CanonPriceWatch.com.

Contrary to urban legend, there are very few cases of outright fraud on eBay. They do a good job of policing their sellers and even CanonPriceWatch.com recommends going through eBay so you have the added level of protection if something goes wrong.

For reference, here are several relevant posts from Canon Price Watch.





Third Party Manufacturers / Re: DXO uh-oh?
« on: July 24, 2014, 11:35:37 PM »
This really isn't a surprise. DxO and Nikon are inseparably joined at the hip.

Do you have any evidence of this?

All of this (everyone's comments) just sounds like more sour grapes from Canon fans because their cameras don't score as well and it is well recognised that Canon's sensors aren't as good.

Does anyone complain that the scores for Canon sensors are too high?
Or that DxO incorrectly says that Canon camera X has a better/worse sensor than Canon camera Y?

^--- This ---^

Isn't a surprise, either. :P  ;D Our resident Nikon foreverfanboyyayz!

BTW, Dilbert...are you ACTUALLY asking me if Nikon and DXO are "literally" joined at the hip?   ???  I mean, your asking for "evidence" of that...I've been racking my brain for a way to describe how organizations and companies have "hips", conjure up some kind of...evidence, for that...but I'm at a loss for...anything...here...... :P

I hear in a song once that hips don't lie.

EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel EOS on the Way as Mentioned by Canon
« on: July 24, 2014, 10:38:06 AM »
Let's stop obsessing over trees (especially since they are machine-translated, massively garbled trees) and look at the forest for a minute.

The point is that very few DSLR buyers ever go on to buy another lens other than what came with their camera. Canon's new 10-18 STM lens is an effort by the company to entice those one-lens one-body owners to actually take the lens off the camera and play with an ultra-wide to wide lens.

It's a smart and innovative strategy to deal with a market that has become saturated.

The really interesting thing here should be that Canon is innovating on several fronts while their competitors seem to be stuck in the same old ruts.

They are kicking the competitions' collective rears in the full frame market with both the 5DIII and the 6D; the SL1 is the only DSLR of its kind available; their cinema line is unique and highly successful; they continue to produce and release some of the best lenses in the market and they are making a big move in the high growth security market to name just a few areas.

For five years they've had to industry leading APS-C body in the 7D and in a little over a month we'll see what the next generation of that camera is like – which will help us see where they believe the market is heading.

People on this forum constantly gripe about Canon, but an interview like this (even as garbled and confusing as it may be) is just one more reminder that they know a heck of a lot more about their customers than anyone here ever will.


Lenses / Re: Buying a used lens from Adorama
« on: July 23, 2014, 10:52:06 PM »
The street price for a new 24-105mmL from a Authorized dealer is $660.

Don't pay more.  It might indeed be a kit lens, they are exactly the same as a retail lens, and have the same warranty.

From Canon Price Watch.

We estimate a street price of $659.99 on this item brand new from an authorized dealer with full Canon USA Warranty and free shipping.

Fill out this form to get in touch with CPW for assistance in obtaining this price.
You can also read more about street prices.

What Mt. Spokane says. Canon Price Watch street price deals are all for U.S. warranty new lenses and bodies.

EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel EOS on the Way as Mentioned by Canon
« on: July 23, 2014, 10:46:31 PM »
no news here: "we look forward to the advent of high-resolution model of the EOS".  We are all looking forward to that.  This poor guy works for Canon and he is looking forward to the same thing we are.

Pretty much my thoughts.

This guy is a lens designer. Naturally, he wants to and tries to design lenses with the maximum resolution possible. A lens designed today needs to stay current for 10-15 years or more. Must be a real challenge.

I got the feeling from the interview (and I readily admit I found it very difficult to comprehend the machine translation) that this wasn't a prediction, but rather just an indication that the lens designers are trying to keep pace with sensor improvements.

I don't know how long it takes to design a new lens, but I would expect that they start working on new and improved designs years in advance of new sensor developments.

EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel EOS on the Way as Mentioned by Canon
« on: July 23, 2014, 10:35:28 PM »
I think that the interpretation of the interview is that 4 to 5 percent of canon buyers buy additional lenses and that the other 95 percent just stick with whatever was in the kit that they bought. The math supports this view.

That's my interpretation as well. Honestly, I would have expected it to be higher, but then it just shows how abnormal (in so, so many ways) forum readers are.

Of course it fits in nicely with my personal theory – which is that one of Canon's strategies for the mature DSLR market is to pivot from selling one DSLR each to lots of people to instead start selling lots of cameras and lenses to fewer people.

Makes sense. With the world's largest installed base of DSLR owners, and in a saturated market where the cost of capturing new customers is growing, they are likely to be focused more and more on up-selling existing customers.

If I'm reading the interview correctly, they believe an inexpensive ultra-wide lens for APS-C buyers is one way to reignite/revive interest among Rebel owners and get them using their cameras in new ways. Pretty clever really.

That's one reason I've been saying the 7DII is likely to be 24 mp or more. Canon doesn't want an APS-C body to compete with the 6D or 5DIII, they want a body that complements their full frame offerings, so we all feel the need to own two bodies – if you want reach and high resolution, you need an APS-C body and if you want low-light performance and low noise you need a full-frame body.

With the right mix, they have the potential to significantly increase their sales of DSLR bodies even if the customer base remains stagnant.

EOS Bodies / Re: High Megapixel EOS on the Way as Mentioned by Canon
« on: July 23, 2014, 10:31:04 AM »
Unlike many Google translations, this one is a bit more readable...

You are a better man than me. :)

I did find this very interesting and would be curious how others read this comment:

"Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens. I think you want to know by all means do not yet know the fun of single-lens reflex Although I kindly SLR debut with much effort, that it is possible to lens replacement is a waste, a new world of expression which spread lens exchange."

Does this mean that only 4-5% of buyers purchase a second lens? Having followed Canon's various announcements over the years as they hit milestones in camera and lens production, it is obvious that most people never go beyond a kit lens, but a 95% rate seems remarkably high to me.

If true, I think it could help explain why mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras are not doing that well and it makes me wonder if the future of mirrorless isn't in fixed lens bodies.

Anyone able to contribute a better translation/interpretation?

You got something against DEET or just sprays? I carry several of the little individually wrapped and sealed "Off" brand towelettes in my camera bag just in case I need one.

From my experience gnats can be more annoying and harder to discourage than mosquitoes. DEET-based products seem to do a decent job of discouraging mosquitoes, but some gnats are like honey badgers -- they just don't care.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Where do you buy 5D Mark iii?
« on: July 21, 2014, 11:39:04 PM »
$2,600 from unauthorized dealer on eBay or $2700 from canon pricewatch street price program after rebate with USA warranty from authorized dealer. Those are the best prices right now and they are not bad. You can check price history at canon pricewatch as well.
Be sure to read their blog notes on unauthorized dealers and grey market and decide for yourself if it is worth saving $100 dollars going the unauthorized route.

1D X Sample Images / Re: Any Thing shot with a 1Dx
« on: July 20, 2014, 11:53:17 AM »
Why worry what anybody else is doing?

Besides, many pros use P mode, Joe Buissink is a $10,000+ wedding shooter and he only ever uses P mode.

Agreed. The whole debate over "P," "M" etc., is the stupidest thing ever. They all get you to the same point (or at least they should if you know what you are doing). It's just a question of where you want to start out. All a matter of personal preference and one's choice for a starting point doesn't make you a worse or better photographer.

Canon General / Re: New Speedlite Coming? [CR2]
« on: July 17, 2014, 02:39:04 PM »
Wouldn't it be something if this new flash was being rolled out as one that could be controlled by a built-in radio wireless system in the new 7D? Yes, I know I'm reaching and just kidding.  At least, I hope that's not what it'll be cause I'd be too jealous.   
I think the regulatory environment makes a built-in radio transmitter for the 7d unlikely. They would need different models for countries that don't allow radio transmitters.

They already do for the 6D so why not?

Good point. Maybe there is hope for a 7D RT then.

I'd prefer a tracking chip that indicates where the camera or lens is.

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