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EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: Today at 12:12:29 AM »
So if I am reading this article right, Canon is selling more low end crop bodies.
Nikon is selling more high end Pro and Prosumer bodies.
You are not reading it right. Nikon has more full frame bodies and Canon has more aps-c bodies. Absent information on sales of specific models it's impossible to know which company is selling more of any particular body or format. Having more of something isn't the same as selling more.

EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 19, 2014, 10:42:35 PM »
Crucify me. I've already been hanging on a cross for a while now, not like it's going to matter. :P
Oh please spare us the self-pity. You've been on the attack for months now. Every time you are proven wrong you change the goal posts or pull out the "poor me" card. It's time to move on.

Reviews / Re: Tony Northrup - D810 vs. 5D Mk3
« on: September 18, 2014, 02:14:30 PM »
The D800 resolves quite a lot more detail than the 5D III. That either translates into the ability to enlarge more with the same level of detail as smaller enlargements with the 5D III, or it translates into naturally crisper, sharper images when downsampling for smaller prints or online publication.

Sorry, but this is just crazy talk. Ink is not infinitely scalable. It is a liquid that has to be absorbed into the paper. Which means it must bleed or it wouldn't adhere to the paper. It isn't like pixels, where you can keep getting smaller and smaller and with sufficient magnification still see individual pixels.

And, as far as online publications go, the limiting factor is the resolution of the monitor, which is always way, way less than the resolution of any camera.

The D810 might – emphasis on might – offer some advantage for those making very large prints. But, ordinarily, large prints are viewed at a greater distance, so once viewing distance is taken into account, the difference in resolution is generally negligible.

Tony Northrup made a transparent infomercial. If he isn't yet on Nikon's payroll, it isn't for lack of trying on his part.

EOS Bodies / Re: A New EOS Pro Body With 46mp Next Month? [CR1]
« on: September 18, 2014, 11:08:48 AM »
This camera is firmly in the realm of: "will be delivered by elves riding unicorns."

Still, I encourage everyone to actively participate in this thread as every minute spent here is a minute that can't be spent whining about dynamic range.
Oh, and for the guy who said the D810 was cutting into Canon's market share: Amazon best sellers as of this morning: Canon 7DII #1. D810 #9.

EOS Bodies / Re: A New EOS Pro Body With 46mp Next Month? [CR1]
« on: September 17, 2014, 10:40:18 PM »
Some guy no one knows makes an account calling himself "Psychic1" and posts a statement with absolutely no backstory on how he comes to know this.  They seem inordinately excited by very thin rumors there on FM Canon Rumors. 

Corrected the post. Now the CR rating should be corrected to "0"

EOS Bodies / Re: AE-1 Styled DSLR from Canon?
« on: September 17, 2014, 05:49:57 PM »
I think the main appeal of the Fuji is that they took the classic style of a rangefinder and added to it to update the camera without losing the classic style. The Nikon seems more like a Franken-Camera, where they pasted bits and pieces of old and new together in some fairly inconvenient ways.

The "M" series might be a bit more popular if it had more of a rangefinder look to it, but honestly, I just took a look at the old Canonets and they seem pretty boxy and clunky, so not sure Canon ought to revive that style.

EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II - Timing and when to buy
« on: September 17, 2014, 04:45:10 PM »
I was a relatively early adopter of the 7D and never regretted it. I got a small Canon Loyalty discount that they were offering at the time, but that was it.

I think it depends. With the camera coming out in November and with pre-sales already very strong, there may not be many "deals" this holiday season (although I would wait until closer to Christmas just to see).

I would not expect a rebate offer for at least six months, but I could be wrong. I think it just depends on how long you can stand to wait and what the potential savings is worth to you.

Follow to see what the going price is, once the camera is actually released.

I would not be surprised if it takes almost a year before the price drops much, if at all. The question only you can answer is whether waiting that long will be worth it to save maybe $100-$200.

EOS Bodies / Re: Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 17, 2014, 01:29:21 PM »
Not sure what impact this will have on EXMOOR availability in the future.

That's just smartphones. Sony is THE 900 pound gorilla in the sensor world. Their reach for sensors extends into every single area they are used, far beyond just Exmor for digital cameras. Even if Sony failed and went bankrupt at some point, there are a good half dozen solid companies out there that would snatch up their sensor business in a heartbeat. So even if in the long run it isn't Sony making Exmors, or EXView HAD, or any of the other major sensors that Sony makes, they will still be made. The technology and patents are far too lucrative to simply disappear.

Fat lot of good that's going to do anyone who has bought into the Sony camera and lens system though.

Just one more reason I would not buy into any system except Canon or Nikon.

Exmoor is where they have lots of deer and heather  ;)

Had to look it up. The name sounded Scottish and I was afraid they might be taking it with them, but looking at the map, it appears it's safe from those Highlanders for now...oh wait...I might be Scottish...not sure though...I think we got thrown out a couple of centuries ago...but I used to have a Gordon Black Watch tie. :)

EOS Bodies / Re: Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 16, 2014, 11:33:27 PM »
Currently #1 on Amazon's best sellers list.

EOS Bodies / Re: How can we improve on 5D3 to 5D4?
« on: September 16, 2014, 11:08:02 PM »
I'm sure Canon will figure out some things that will make me want it, but right now, I can't imagine what they would be. 5DIII has everything I need and more.


EOS Bodies / Re: How excited are you about the new 7D II?
« on: September 16, 2014, 10:46:40 AM »
7D Mkii looks to be one fine piece of kit!...

As a current owner of a 7D and the 5d3 I appreciate both of their different functional placements in the EOS lineup...

...The 7D2 is targeted clearly at the sports / wildlife  market so it needs to do the things that that segment needs really well!....

...Oh...and BTW .... the price is approx. the same as the release price of my 7D in 2009.


One thing about Canon, they seem very good at targeting their releases to specific audiences. The 5DIII was clearly targeted to wedding and event shooters (still a fine camera for everyone else, but was instantly a 'must have" for that segment.)

Now comes the 7D II and it is obviously targeted to action, sports, bird and wildlife photographers. It will be a great APS-C camera for everyone else, but they focused it on a specific market. Those wanting low ISO performance may be disappointed, but this was never intended to be the camera for them.

It looks like Canon tried to hit a sweet spot between resolution, higher ISO performance and 1.6 reach. Good move on their part.

Overall, I'm pretty excited by this camera, not just because of what it is, but because of what it says about Canon. Despite the complainers, Canon is clearly the best at figuring out what its customers want and targeting its products to those needs. I suspect this will be a great seller for Canon.

EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 16, 2014, 10:11:29 AM »
A lot of dumb comments here. You're judging the AF system not knowing what mode/setting it was on, competence of a photographer testing a camera and a trade show, and whether or not the lens possibly needed to be micro adjusted. I love the internet...

Exactly, I love it when people don't bother to even go to the original site. This was shot on the floor of the Photokina trade show. Clearly, what happened was the guy got to hold the camera for a few minutes, stuck a card in it and fired off a few shots of a nearby model.

Still, the results do see quite good. Even if it is a jpeg, it would seem the camera's processing is pretty impressive at a minimum. Whether it's the "new" sensor or the new processing, it really doesn't matter, the results are definitely quite good and much closer to 5DIII standards than most people, if they are honest, would have expected.

EOS Bodies / Re: 7DII No Wifi
« on: September 15, 2014, 06:48:18 PM »
But, back on topic. I think we are not far away from the day when most brides will expect that the picture of them walking down the aisle will be posted to Facebook before the ceremony ends.

Yes, all this puts more pressure on photographers, but that pressure isn't going away. The public will demand instant posting of images, regardless of what manufacturers do, so why shouldn't camera manufacturers make it easier or their customers (the photographers) to gain a competitive edge.

I can't think of a day in anybodies life where they should be further away from Facebook.  The rest of the day goes by in the blink of an eye after walking down the aisle.  You're rushed off for photos, then meet and greet, a few toasts, before you know it you're on the dance floor.  By that time I was far to drunk to be posting to Face Space anyway.  But I digress...

I'm sure you have a point, and it does increase the pressure on photogs.  But it is something else that helps separate the pros from the uncles with a 5d3 and 70-200 II vying for a good seat on the aisle.  So I guess I can see a good side to it.

Yeah I'm not condoning it. I just know how people are these days. The first Mayor Daley had a saying: "It if isn't in the Tribune, it didn't happen." 

These days it could be modified to: "If it isn't on Facebook within the hour, it didn't happen."

We can all be nostalgic for the old days, when people were actually willing to wait weeks for pictures. Now they expect everything to be posted on Facebook immediately and photographers will, sadly, be judged by how quickly they can do that. As competitive as the industry is, it is too bad the manufacturers still don't seem to "get" social media (And this comes from a guy who is pushing 61)

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark IV announcement on March 2015 or later
« on: September 15, 2014, 06:40:03 PM »
Just throwing it out there. Your welcome.

Your are correct, it will be released March 2015 or later.

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