« on: June 13, 2014, 10:28:56 PM »
Perfect news man. im happy to hear that!!!
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Personally, I'm kind of excited for it the step up to a pro body...although I am finding all of the "Waaaaaa, it won't look like my pre existing APS-C body!" comments highly amusing! Particularly the ones that say it will be a deal breaker, no matter how good it is, if it doesn't have the body format they expect and want.
I think Canon wants to differentiate this from the existing APS-C bodies in a variety of ways, given that it is going to be more expensive in than any other APS-C body ever. I suspect it will be a different kind of animal than we've ever seen from any APS-C camera, in terms of AF, Speed and buffer (although I suspect it will only be a moderate improvement in IQ over the 70D, but time will tell). I think Canon is seeing if they can redefine what an APS-C camera CAN be--and I'm very excited to see how that pans out!
That's my thoughts anyway.
It is a deal breaker, because when I am slogging through the bush with a camera strapped to my back, having a massive body is a decided detriment. Big bodies are for studio use primarily, where size doesn't matter. And if you are in a studio you don't need a crop sensor. If you are out and about, where mobility is important, a large camera body is a problem.
I'm not trying to troll... but have you tried to slog through the bush before with a 1D style body? That extra inch or inch and a half sticking off the camera, in my opinion, don't make a big difference.
Also I don't think an integrated vertical grip is just for studio. It's such a great feature when mounted to a lens with a lens collar that attaches straight to a gimbal or ballhead. It make rotating to portrait very quick and easy to take a photo.
Historically, those grips were added to film cameras to serve as automated winders so that you could take pictures rapidly in succession. That was a feature primarily used by professional photographers, so it came to be seen as a sign of "professionalism". But, once cameras became digital, those grips no longer served their original purpose, but still serve as a signature of a "professional". That is why they are there, it is primarily for show and as a status symbol. And caters to the macho idea that for a real man, bigger is better. In a practical modern camera it serves no real function, it is just peacock feathers.
The whole point of the crop sensor camera range is to reduce the overall size of the camera for the purposes of increased mobility. That is defeated by putting it into a giant body.
Putting a 7D2 into such a package is insanity IMO.
No doubt professional photographers who are used to the 1D series won't mind, but they are not likely to by a crop sensor to begin with (for the most part).
Let me start by saying, again, that the 7D2 should not have an integral grip if Canon knows what they are doing.
But, having said that, remember why people use APS-C:
1) It is smaller than FF -- smaller bodies and smaller lenses (if optimized for that mount, i.e. EF-S)
2) It is cheaper than FF -- bodies and crop-only lenses are cheaper.
3) It grants 1.6x reach compared to FF as if it were a 1.6x teleconverter but without the teleconverter hit on aperture*, so this is gold for folks who shoot moving things from far away. (I asterisk this as crop does affect DOF vs. FF but doesn't affect speed of a lens)
Your statement "The whole point of the crop sensor camera range is to reduce the overall size of the camera" applies to Group (1) only.
Group (2) is why so many people own Rebels. APS-C rigs are at the high-end of the beginners-getting-into-photography camera market but they won't set you back thousands of dollars.
Group (3) devotees are special niche of folks who leverage this oddity about crop sensors for birding, wildlife, and some sports. These folks intentionally don't migrate to FF for length -- APS-C is a strength to them and not a weakness. There are pros in this group, guys with large budgets, etc. -- these are folks that can afford (or justify the investment) on most anything that Canon sells.
That third group has been waiting for the 7D2 (and/or the 1D Mark V) forever.
They will be first in line to get one at nearly any cost.
They are the ones (amongst others) who rack up comical posting counts in this forum.
So, again, I don't think the 7D2 needs an integral grip, but APS-C is not just for size. Not at all.