Have the patents run out on the lens that Yongnuo is cloning?
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That page(source) is as old as the road to Rome.
However, looking at the c100 mark II (1080/59 for only $5600) released a month ago i can pretty much confirm the 5d mark iv will not have 4k for a lower price. Canon is very pro- product diversification so they like to keep cool features out even When it is technicly possible.. Its a shame tho, nobody will get a canon now for video... Buying a full HD camera for 3700 dollars when 4k televisions are flooding the market is just silly. You will be instantly 3 years behind
Add 600 dollars more and you have the Sony fdr-ax1 with 4k.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. They have to design the camera for a 3 year life span, and leaving 4K out will render it obsolete much sooner, remember, the 5D has served as their unofficial flagship video DSLR. Leaving 4K out will mean giving up that market share. IMO any high end camera released with HD only video is a short term stopgap product that intended to buy them some more development time, and can be expected to be replaced by an upgraded version on a much shorter cycle than 3 years. Most likely such a camera would be replaced by a new version within 12-18 months.
Canon have had more than enough time to get their 4K ducks in a row by now so I think it is unlikely that they would produce a HD only 5D4, if they did we can expect to see a 5D5 follow on relatively quickly.
My point is that "pro" (or "pro-level" or "pro-targeted") is a characteristic of the camera and not the person using it. The user doesn't determine whether a camera is a "pro camera" any more than the camera determines whether the user is a pro. I think that we would all agree that a 1DX is a "pro camera",
I get your point; however, the reason I disagree with your conclusion is that there's no objective criteria to separate pro from non-pro. At the extremes, e.g. 1DX vs Rebel, we will probably agree. But what about in the middle?
In the end, it devolves into the famous Potter Stewart test.
The top end is aimed at people who are willing and able to pay the higher price. "Pro" is purely a marketing distinction.
What I find perplexing is in a shrinking market, why is Canon not doing more to revitalize Consumer demand/excitement? I go to social events, and in most cases I'm the only with a real camera. Everyone else is happy to be shooting with their phones. That has be an issue they are feeling! So why not make it more tempting for a consumer to desire and spring for one of their bodies and in turn more Canon lenses?
As I've said before, times change and people change. Now-a-days not everyone wants/needs a "real camera." Many people wouldn't take a DSLR as a gift, because they don't want/need a DSLR. As you said: "Everyone else is happy to be shooting with their phones."
1. A DSLR won't fit in your pocket/purse.
2. A DSLR won't post a photo to Instagram or Facebook.
3. A DSLR doesn't have apps like Snapseed or Perfectly Clear available.
So basically Canon will tell it's crop users that want to move to FF to look at other brands (like the D750)
How so? Are you already assuming that a future 6DII will be uncompetitive when it debuts?
Also, I know many users of APS-C bodies that own one or more EF lenses (myself included) which provides a good incentive to remain with Canon.
We’re told that Canon hasn’t been fully satisfied with the sales of the Canon EOS 6D...I seriously doubt if Canon has been disappointed with the sales of the 6D. The 6D is almost certainly the best-selling full frame camera on the market today. Certainly has outsold the D600/610.
Either Canon has unrealistic expectations or whomever is "telling" CR guy that Canon is disappointed doesn't know what he or she is talking about.
That said, I can see Canon placing a new full-frame in the lineup between the current 6D and the 5DII. There is a lot of space in there for a D750 competitor. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 6DII that goes up in price, features and build to hit that $2,500 mark and then a new model that is closer in features to the original 6D (8D??) come in at around $1,500.
Feature and price creep is always a dilemma for any manufacturer. Look at cars. Manufacturers always start out with a budget car and then, in order make it "new" each season they have to add features and cost. Eventually, the budget car become a mid-level car and they have to start over with a new budget model.
The 6DII has to be better than the 6D, but that means it gets closer in features to the 5DIII. The 5DIV has to have better features than the 5DIII, but that encroaches on the 1DX. It's a never-ending battle to keep refreshing models while keeping the "budget" version available. It's further complicated now that the technology has matured and the pace of change is slowing down.
It's a myth to think that Canon would be concerned about a stripped-down full frame camera stealing sales from the 7DII (or a 7DII stealing sales from a stripped-down full frame camera). Two different cameras, two different markets and either way, Canon gets your money.