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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 7D Mark II Reported Issues
« on: November 09, 2014, 03:58:44 PM »
Have you checked what settings you have for the Ai Servo 1st Image parameters..setting it to Release Priority will get your first frame in a burst off quickly, alternately, having it set for Focus priority will cause it to take longer before the shutter will release and can delay shooting.  The same settings can be applied to the rest of the images in the burst, in the menu Ai Servo 2nd Image Priority.

These two settings are under the Pink AF menu tab, and the second menu screen, tab 2.  Perhaps set both options to Release and Speed and see if it feels the same.

So this issue is before the shutter fires when you do a half press of the shutter.  Doesn't have anything to do with the priority settings.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 7D Mark II Reported Issues
« on: November 09, 2014, 03:56:28 PM »
I would return the camera and exchange it for another.  It sounds faulty.  See if the new camera has the same issue.

I don't think its faulty though I do need to test with some different lenses to see if it's consistent

EOS Bodies - For Stills / 7D Mark II Reported Issues
« on: November 09, 2014, 01:35:59 PM »
Thought I would start a thread today for issues noticed with the 7D Mark II.

I will start with one issue I discovered today shooting a Soccer game.  First of all my setup:

7D MKII with 300mm F2.8L IS II [ AFMA +8  :( ]  Ok got that taken care of.  The one issue I noticed is a lag from the time the shutter button is pressed to when the AF locks on.  No hunting just a noticeable lag in acquiring initial focus.  Most may not notice but in sports it can make the difference between getting the shot and not.  This condition does not exist on my 5DIII so it's something specific to the 7DII.

I was using center AF point only (though the condition exists on all of the AF area settings I tried).

Hopefully this is something that can be resolved in a firmware update.  Hopefully someone here may have discovered a setting which minimizes this issue.

Lenses / Re: Introducing the Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II
« on: November 08, 2014, 08:22:02 PM »
Crap!  They had to announce this today?  I haven't even paid for the 7d2 yet  ;)
It is next on my purchase list, perhaps in the spring!

Likely not worth the pre-order.  Wait for the test results first.  Most people will just use it a 400 anyway so might as well get the 400 5.6L prime lens.

However I'm not very enchanted with F5.6 lenses as to realize their sharpness, you have to stop them down even more.  Shooting at F7 to F8 really limits what you can shoot and when you can shoot it.

EOS Bodies / Re: Focus problems with the Canon 7DII?
« on: November 06, 2014, 11:49:44 PM »
I don't shoot sports, portraits, wildlife and landscapes.

Since you managed to achieve consistent AF using live view and have no need to photograph moving subjects or landscape, I suggest you move to a contrast based AF camera. The A6000 or XT1 or EM1 or GH4 beckons...  ;D
That was a typo, I meant that I shoot only portraits, wildlife and landscapes. I'm not switching brands, I have a big investment in Canon gear.

One other thing.  Many people had simiar issues wwhen the 5diii came out.  Most of the AF issues where due to a lack of understanding how the new advaned AF system works.  Many assumed settings in the older or consumer models are now manual settings in the new models and require one to visit all of the settings to ensure they are set up properly for the task at hand.  Thank god for custom modes on the top dial.  On my 5DIII I have one for birds in flight, one mode for static subjects, and one mode for sports action.  I will likely set up the same for the 7dii once I can get out to do some shooting.

If the complexity of these models is too much then iit may be too much camera for your needs.  I use an EOS-M for shots of my kids as it's quick and easy and does a pretty good job.  No one camera will suit every need until you have mastered all of the settings and fully understand the implications of changing them.

Good luck.  Based on the image posts it looks like AFMA is required.

EOS Bodies / Re: Focus problems with the Canon 7DII?
« on: November 06, 2014, 11:31:13 PM »
I'll try the MA.

I looked at the 6D but don't like the 11 focal points, 19 was nice for certain situations where I didn't want to recompose but put the dot right where I wanted it.

I'd have to sell my EF-S 17-55 and EF-S 10-22 and get their equivalent lenses at a much higher price.

IF its any consolation, i have had to AFMA all of my bodies to my lenses.  Not one matched up perfectly.  I havent had time to afma my 7dii but will be doing it first thing this weekend.  Use a tripod and a full sheet of newspaper taped to a wall.  shoot 5 shots (one shot AF mode, center point AF) at each major afma index (-20,-15,-10,-5,0,5,10,15,20) then evaluate on a computer, not the lcd screen, which is sharpest.  then go back and shoot 5 more at each minor index around that one.  You should be able to determine easily which provides the best image for that lens/focal length.

Once you get the hang of it you can do it with less shots but I always recommend 5

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7D Mark II - DXOMark Review
« on: November 05, 2014, 03:05:30 PM »
So once again DXO compares apples to green beans.  There is no way I would buy the Sony over the 7DII for action/wildlife.  If I were soley interested in wide DR for a particular application, say photo marketing of wedding dresses for example the Sony may be the better choice.  The 7DII so far has superior AF, FPS as well as other features to make it not even compareable to the Sony.

This is why many of us own more than one tool for the trade, just as we have multipe lenses for the task at hand, so we also have different bodies.

Sports/Action 7DII or 1Dx
Wedding or events 6D or 5DIII
Video 70D or sony

Pick your combo and go make pictures (or videos if thats your bag)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7Dii vs Nikon D750 Dynamic Range Test
« on: November 01, 2014, 08:22:16 PM »
The 5Diii test is there as well, thats full frame to full frame.

Same strip, same exact settings on both cameras same everything. I have a hard time differentiating between stops 32/33 and higher on the Canons due to their noise. The D750 is much cleaner and easier to differentiate, more visible, distinct shades in deeper tones. Its clear to me. I try to frame up the strip edge to edge in both cameras. when I shoot it so yes the focal lengths are different. 

The strip is calibrated plus the strobe & tripod do not move, not sure how that would explain such different results between the two.

There was some exposure and shadow recovery on both, no noise reduction. Ill have to play with it more once the 7Dii files are supported by Camera RAW.

Canon DPP will only convert to tiff and JPEG files, unless I am mistaken.

Thank you for the feedback.


As I mentioned before you are not testing the complete DR of the sensors.  You also need to show the white highlight area.  Showing the shadow part of the DR is not the complete range.  I'd like to see how the other end looks at the same exposure and where the highlight detail is lost.

The only thing you care comparing here is shadow detail at ISO 100, not dynamic range.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7Dii vs Nikon D750 Dynamic Range Test
« on: November 01, 2014, 09:24:49 AM »
Well I tend to agree.  A DR test is not all about shadow noise.  All this test shows is that at ISO 100 the sony sensor has better noise and shadow recovery.  Would liked to have seen the conprison of all three cameras at the highlight end using the same settings.

Also would be nice to see this comparison at a few ISO ranges up to 3200 or higher if there is a useful comparison to be had.  It is well known that most sensors yield better shadow DR at higher ISOs and less so on the highlights.

I dont recall if you mentioned this but when comparing crop vs full frame you also need to adjust your distance to the subject to compensate for the crop factor.  While it may not affect the DR and shadow tests it will affect the percepted noise levels since you need to enlarge the full frame image to match that taken with the the crop sensor.  For those that are really anal you can even go as far as ensuring the subject covers the same number of pixels on both sensors so the resolution matches in the tests.

I would not say you are comparing apples and oranges.  YOu just need to be more comprehensive in the tests.  As you can see there are many ways to run tests and no one test will give you all of the answers.

B&H is shipping today as well.,,but standard expedited.. not overnight

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Shipping October 30, 2014
« on: October 30, 2014, 09:15:00 AM »
I just got an email from B&H this morning stating the camera is still out of stock as they have not yet received their supply. I pre ordered on the first day of availability.

Yes I got the same email.  I think this is their weekly notification and is automated...and badly ill timed. 

LOL - Love part of this - "I was shooting running horses and maybe 3 out of 300 images were out of focus"

Now can't wait to see the Tony Northrup review...

"to test the sports AF capabilities, we will shoot my GF walking towards me... The 7D MK II only performed so so getting 6 out of 10 images in focus" 


That AF test still bothers the hell out of me.  I have no trouble believing that the D810 can track better than the 5D3 in that scenario as Nikon seems to have gone all out with the AF on the D810 and now D750, but that the 5D3 was only hitting 60% makes no sense.

Too me it comes down to one of two things - Incompetence or dishonesty.

He either did not know how to use the camera or he was dishonest.  40% OOF is really bad especially for the type of shooting he was doing.

more likely he just had a lens with an AF motor problem.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Shipping October 30, 2014
« on: October 18, 2014, 08:56:52 AM »
On Oct 8 I posted that updated their shipping to Oct 30th :)
Wait...Best Buy will be carrying it also! What! Game changer since I have a Best Buy ten minutes driving distance from my house than the 45 minute Express Bus Ride to B&H. Thank You for posting this!  ;D

Last I checked, BB had a 15% restocking fee for all returns.  I would take the 45 minute ride just to have that safety net in case it wasnt what you expected.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Shipping October 30, 2014
« on: October 17, 2014, 06:03:08 PM »
Seems this rumor is about as good as the one we got when the 7DII was supposed to have wifi.

Likely just a ploy to steal orders from everyone else.

Lenses / Re: Is FoCal worth ~$150?
« on: October 07, 2014, 08:56:45 PM »
The whole process of using such software seems such an exercise in spurious precision...

Perhaps.  However, AFMA affects every AF shot you take, so doing it incorrectly can be problematic.  I've run across many people who have done AFMA incorrectly (e.g. testing at the MFD for a lens commonly used at a much greater distance). 

Honestly, it doesn't matter how you arrive at the correct value for your lens(es), as long as you do arrive at that correct value.  Sort of like driving a car with a manual transmission vs. automatic - both will get you there, but if you don't knw how to drive a stick shift, you're in for a jerky, bumpy, gear-grinding ride.

Actually I think there is no correct value other than the one you need at the distance you are shooting, the light intensity you have, and the type/color/temperature of the lighting on game day.  Even ambient temperature can change your afma.  To say there is an absolute correct afma setting for all circumstances is a bit of a stretch.

I've also seen some canon lenses straight out of the box that will not focus at infinity if you afma using the FoCal guidelines.  Surely you could find one out of a batch that needs adjustment but I've seen it with several copies on different lenses.  Could be bad lens design but the variability is there.  You need to afma at different focus distances and choose the correct one for your shooting conditions....or just keep a notebook and switch your settings when doing close ups then landscapes.

Wether or not you trust focal to get you that optimal afma setting, it will reveal these inconsistencies so you can decide wether to sell or return that new lens for something else.

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