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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Finnish wearing on my 5D Mark III
« on: February 28, 2013, 06:12:30 PM »
I have had at least 14 different Canon professional bodies and I do about 35 weddings a year...never had anything even this close happen...in fact most of my cameras by the time I sell them still look pretty minty..I
use straps and now a spider holster for carry and often set them down in less than pristine surfaces. I would
definitely complain to Canon higher ups...this should not happen this easily...I did have a mark 3 for a short
time and notice the paint is quite delicate compared to other models. You can always get that rubberized
camera armor that covers the whole camer.

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The most important camera feature for any pro is consistency and reliability.....all the rest is froth! Everyone call
Canon about the fact that we are being embarrassed on the job.

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thats all very good....but what good are cross sensors if they take 2 secs to acheive focus in low light situations?

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Canon gave the mark 3 ability to shoot noislessly in low light and an absolutely excellent radio controlled
flash system....but dropped the ball with this af problem....that's Canon for you ...one step forward and then
two steps backwards....I guess they can fix this on the Mk4 and dupe more people into spending money.

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I think its all a big conspiracy

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Looks like this thread is winding down....i am still longing for a solution...photographed a party
last week...used the mark2 and Mark3 about 1/2 each...using the 2 for the higher action shots.
I really love the sharpness and smoothness of the Mark3 file...skin tones are very nice on this
camera compared to the Mark2....so maybe they need to bring back the mk2 af...so I can get the
most out of this camera.

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There is another post on this forum that refers to AF problems in low light 6d vs Mk3

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11851.0

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Just did an evening engagement shoot at Longwood Gardens . Mrk3 really struggled with focus in low light...using
my af assist...600 rt and 70-200 f4 is lens...sometimes would not acquire focus at all...usually at a distance of about 20 ft. Didn't have my mark2 to compare...but this is really not what Iwould call improved AF. If I turned
off af assist...did not focus at all. this is using the center spot one shot af.

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Lighting / Re: Confused about 600EX-RT and 5D mark II
« on: December 12, 2012, 10:16:01 PM »
I use the 600 with my 5d 2...while they say you cannot control groups...you CAN control up to 3 flashes using
the 600 on camera as the master...it becomes A and you can have two other 600's as B and C. Now , you can
use the three flashes in either ettl mode...whereby you can dial in the ratios from the master flash...or you
can use them in manual...whereby you can dial in the power of each individually...I do this all the time...I even
mount a PHOTix stratos on my hot shoe...so I can trigger a fourth light (manual) if I need it.

You can also do hi speed sync with the 600 and the 5d2....works fine up to about 2000 of a sec.

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There is already a very long post about this on this forum...about 14 pages worth. Check it out. I can tell you
that the 5d3 is totally disfunctional in this scenario. My last reception...I gave up and went back to the 5d 2 in
my bag. The delay is excruciating and if you override the focus confirmation...you will be rewarded with oof
photos. If you turn of the infrared...it is slightly faster, but def not as reliable.

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dlleno,

   I think there is some credence to your argument. I just hope that if they do the firmware, we do not lose accuracy to any great degree. The mark 2 is pretty well 99% accuracy when using the center spot with af
assist...so this should be doable with the new camera. I am so confident at receptions with the old camera that
I frequent just point the camera at a group of people I want to capture without even looking thru the viewfinder.

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Thanks Gilmore,

      Please post this also at the Canon forum....http://forums.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS/5D3-AF-assist-beam-slower-focus/td-p/2277. We need to get them moving on this. I have gone back to using my Mark 2 as primary because
I really can't trust the Mk3. Its embarrassing that people with little point and shoot cameras are capturing the action better than I am.

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Shot with both my mark2 and mark3 at an event yesterday....the mark 3 actually caused me to miss shots..when I switched to the mk2...all was well....this is in a fairly dark venue using multiple 600 rts and focus
assist. I tried various settings with the mark3...one shot with and w/o af assist, ai servo using multiple points,
my conclusion is I can't count on the mk 3 for important stuff just yet.

Here's an interesting post on this forum...he comes to the same conclusion I did....the mk3 focus seems to be
a 2 step process.

 http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11414.0

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privateby design.....

     Just coming back to this thread...lets not get off about how to properly expose a file...it is really off topic.....I
can tell you in a specific case....I took a candid of two women...one caucasian and on very dark afroamerican...the
caucasian was properly exposed....the other way under....bringing here back up left an incredible amount of noise...this was with flash at iso 400. I also know that there are noise problems at lower isos even with proper
exposure.

            Anyhow....the focusing problem with AF assist occurs at almost any ev....I haven't verified this in bright
sunlight yet....but I was shooting headshots at a local hospital yesterday in bright interior lighting....now I use
my 600 rt's in group mode with 4 lights total....the commander light being on the camera. I have shut off the flash from the commander...but kept the af light....thing would hunt to focus on person's face using one of the
cross sensors in the vertical quadrant (upper right in viewfinder). When I shut of the af assist...it was definitely
faster, but not as fast as my Mark2, which I had with me to compare.

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