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Hi all,

This is my first post even though I have been coming to this forum religiously everyday for a few years now.

I have a question please.

How do you set up to do light metering with an external light meter(e.g. Sekonic 758) when you use multiple flashes?

In studio, I use a sync cord connected to the meter and one of the strobes, which then fires other strobes optically and I get my reading.

Can the same be done with flashes?

How can you use the ST-E3 RT to do this ? Can I connect a cable to it and the light meter and fire multiple 600 Rts to get a reading.

The ST E3 manual does not mention anything. Search with Google did not turn up anything either!

Please help.

Thanks a lot

Dholai

I have a Sekonic L-358, 3 600's and an STE3. I contacted Sekonic to see of they were ever planning on creating Canon friendly RT module. It appears not as they are in bed with Pocket Wizard.     

If I am working with my 3 flashes in a studio set up they are usually on manual. I use group mode which is just awesome. I carry the STE3 and L-358 around with me. I turn off the other flashes and work on one at a time starting with the key. I fire the flash using the test button, get a reading on the L-358 and adjust power output using the ST-E3. When all done I place the STE3 back on the camera.         

This was the only wireless solution I could find. I purchased a generic spare foot to carry the STE3 around but I found it was very tight while clamping so I cut up the foot that came with the flash to prevent damage. I ordered a replacement foot from Canon.

   

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Actually I realized that some one just repeated the announcement of the product. I thought that post was an update - basically stating the release date. Sorry about that.         

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Lighting / Re: 600EX-RT + ST-E3-RT remote zoom setting?
« on: November 07, 2013, 07:02:37 AM »
Then there are the other two main complaints. No AF assist on the STE3. Don't need it in the studio and when shooting event photography I have a flash on my camera all the time anyway to bounce when I can even with remote flashes in the corners.   

Lack of off camera 2nd curtain sync. Have not missed it but I am surprised Canon left it out for RT. Looks like Yongnuo will have it with their RT release, in manual only I think. Also their version STE3 will have AF assist. There will be a little pressure on Canon RT sales. 

Overall I'm very happy with Canon RT. The group mode rocks.   

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Lighting / Re: 600EX-RT + ST-E3-RT remote zoom setting?
« on: November 05, 2013, 07:20:00 AM »
Just wondering how important that is to everyone. When I set my 600's up in soft boxes or umbrellas I already know the zoom length I will need for maximum light dispersion. I just use the STE3 to select the type of mode I want and flash duration. I suppose that when you are trying for effects like narrowing the beam for rim lighting effects or other stuff it makes a difference. I don't do much of that so it does not bother me. I really like the system.       

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Software & Accessories / Re: Cheap UV filters: are they worth it?
« on: October 05, 2013, 03:21:41 PM »
Cheap filters are excellent if your goal is to degrade the IQ your lens was designed to achieve. I would not trust any cheap filter.   

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Lighting / Re: Lighting large groups, help needed!
« on: September 14, 2013, 11:22:32 AM »

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Found the attached on Apple Rumours, seems clear enough, I think.

$9.99/month until Dec 31st, then you'll pay more.

I imagine it'll be a 1 year possibly 2 year lock on price, then you'll pay more.

Offer isn't "Live" yet, I imagine it'll take a week or so to get onto the Adobe site.

I remember some months back on another Adobe CC thread where someone that was apparently an Adobe Software onward seller declared this would never happen, Adobe doing a special for "Photographers", I guess the Positive view on this is that Adobe are concerned at the reaction to the Full CC set up, and have at least sort to not loose customer base by not putting together something for "Photographers".

Now it's really just about wether or not People feel there's value in $120/year for PSCS6+LR5 and the value offered in upgrades as they come as part of the deal, My view is that $120/month for PS+LR5 is a reasonable deal as it includes instant upgrades & new content as they come, I'm not keen on "Renting" software, but I can live with it at a price, this price. And quite honestly I see the Adobe CC "renting" of software via a yearly subscription as the way of the future, for any Company it's about Cash-flow, the subscription system helps solve this issue for Companies, I'm surprised Apple and others aren't already doing the same.

The fact that it'll only be a "fixed" price for a determined period, 1 year, maybe 2 years, is par for the course in today's world, nothing stays the same, nothing get's cheaper over time.

It will be live on Sept 17. I spoke to a Adobe rep. He never quit trying to up sell me for the full CC package for $29.99. They sound desperate.     

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Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: 430 EX II vs Metz 52 AF-1
« on: September 04, 2013, 12:22:08 PM »
No experience of the Metz.

The Canon will absolutely:

2nd curtain synch
High speed synch
be controllable through the camera menu
will crop the zoom according to sensor size and lens
work seamlessly with E-TTL II
work on your next EOS, or the back up body you buy
give you flash modelling preview
work with your AF for assist (there are different modes to select parts of the AF pattern, not sure how it will play with your 5D3)

http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/cameras/Speedlites/SPEEDLITE_430EX_II.aspx?type=download&page=1

From P23



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Under low-light or low-contrast conditions when autofocus cannot be achieved, the built-in AF-assist beam will be emitted automatically to make it easier to autofocus. The 430EX II’s AF-assist beam is compatible with the AF points of almost all EOS cameras. The AF-assist beam is compatible with 28mm and longer lenses. The effective range is shown below.

I had a Metz 58 AF-1 and it did do the following.

2nd curtain synch
High speed synch
be controllable through the camera menu
will crop the zoom according to sensor size and lens
work seamlessly with E-TTL II

work on your next EOS, or the back up body you buy. For this one the Metz comes with a port for FW updates

give you flash modelling preview. Not sure about this one

work with your AF for assist (there are different modes to select parts of the AF pattern, not sure how it will play with your 5D3) AF assist worked but not sure if there were 3 patterns

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Lighting / Re: 600ex as main lights
« on: August 21, 2013, 09:01:53 PM »
I had a mixture of Canon, Metz, YN flashes and PCB cybersyncs. I sold everything and picked up 3 600's and the STE3. I've never looked back.   

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Lighting / Re: Flash Newbie: Flash Photography Concept
« on: June 17, 2013, 01:40:28 AM »
If you put your flash on top of your camera (or attach the flash with the camera using an ETTL cable) the camera will recognize the flash fix the shutter speed at 1/200 sec. You can go for a slower shutter speed if you use M or Tv, without any problem. But if you try to go for a faster shutter speed than 1/200th sec (1/250sec in other cameras than 6D) in M or Tv mode you will get a black unexposed part on the frame. To just use your flash as a fill flash you need to reduce the flash power in the flash (or with flash menu in camera). If you want to go for a faster shutter speed than the limiting flash sync speed (1/200) then you need to go for High Speed Sync (HSS) capable flash. There may be other ways of doing it, I do not know. Someone else will probably point you to those directions soon.

Correct. Here a a good video on HSS. It is a PW ad and you do not need PW to make it work when the flash is on the  camera. After about 6 minutes it gets into stuff you don't really need to yet unless you are interested.

 http://www.pocketwizard.com/inspirations/tutorials/pocketwizard_controltl_optimiz/

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Lighting / Re: Flash Newbie: Flash Photography Concept
« on: June 17, 2013, 01:36:39 AM »
The problem is shooting in AV mode in a dark venue. Your camera does not care if there is a flash on your camera or not. The light cameras light meter will continue to meter ambient light the same way. Take the flash off or turn it off and the meter will read the same and your shutter speed will be very slow slow unless you crank the ISO way up and/or open up the aperture. Based on your ISO AV mode will protect the aperture you selected and will take the shutter to 1/15 or lower if it needs to. It will keep the light meter in the middle no matter what. 

Most pros set the camera to manual when shooting with flash. Now you are bound to the cameras light meter. You can your shutter, aperture and ISO to meter the ambient and flash output via manual or ETTL for subject exposure. Like I said your camera does not care about what your flash is doing and the flash does not care about what your camera is doing. Both have distinct jobs.

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