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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 08:59:14 PM »
Would a touch screen still work flawlessly on a cold winter day when it's snowing and the gloves are on?

I've spent hours out shooting snowy owls and bald eagles on frigid New England winter days.  Lots and lots of waiting time between flights...time during which I sometimes post on CR from the touchscreen of my iPhone, with my hands toasty warm in technical gloves. Just sayin'...   :)

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 08:44:21 PM »
Canon has a problem. I know you do not believe that, but they do. It's a perceptual problem, and it could seriously affect their revenues and ability to fund the necessary R&D in the years to come. Such things have happened before, and often companies, even if they were on the top of the world, NEVER recover (Kodak?) So...seriously...touch screens and touch UIs?

Canon has a perceptual problem?  That depends on who is doing the perceiving.  If you're referring to CR Forums and similar places, perhaps.  Perceived 'poor sensor IQ' is an Internet forum problem Canon has had for years.  Hasn't affected their market share, though.

As dtaylor stated, the analogy to Kodak is a red herring. 

Seriously, touch screens and touch UIs.  Entry level cameras have them.  Canon wants people to upgrade, and people don't like to give up features to which they're accustomed.  Omitting basic features which a majority of their customer base expects to be included (a category into which touch screens fall, but low ISO DR does not) would certainly 'seriously affect their revenues and ability to fund the necessary R&D in the years to come'.

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Technical Support / Re: 5D mk2 wont turn on and off
« on: August 16, 2014, 05:46:57 PM »
Call Canon...   :'(

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 05:42:50 PM »
@ jrista – you seem to be taking the line of thought that including a touchscreen would come at the price of removing dials/buttons, but there no reason to think that would be the case on a higher end dSLR.  Rather, a touchscreen would add functionality.  If the 7DII has improved DPAF, would you really want to drive the AF point around the frame with a joystick? 

As others have stated, touch screens are becoming the norm - on phones, on remote controls, even on microwave ovens.  Your average teenager or twenty-something can type two-thumbed on an iPhone at wpm rates faster than most people can achieve on a regular keyboard.  Those are the people becoming professional photographers today.

That's not my line of thought. My line of thought is, adding a touch screen and all the firmware requires resources at Canon to perform. They have to implement it, test it, work the bugs out of it, etc. All that...when there are other things Canon could be investing those resources into. My line of thought is, for everyone who puts lack of a Touch UI at the top of their list of deal breakers or the thing that makes them must frustrated about the 7D II...they are very short sighted. My line of thought is, while I fully agree a Touch UI is nice (I've used the EOS-M's touch UI...its nice), it is the farthest thing from the most "essential" feature that the 7D II could possibly get.

That's my line of thought.

Ok, by that line of thought Canon should not include AFMA in the 7DII, either.  After all...They have to implement it, test it, work the bugs out of it, etc. 

Canon uses touchscreens in multiple products, including several dSLRs.  The hardware is 'off the shelf' and the firmware for the UI is already written, and would need only tweaks and testing (just as AFMA would, although they blew the testing with the 1D X which had an AMFA bug at launch).  So...the development resources needed would be minimal.  But, Canon doesn't want to release a 'perfect' APS-C camera, so if there's no touchscreen in the 7DII (a big IF, at this point), no doubt it'll show up in the 7DIII.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 12:37:59 PM »
And for those of you who say that you can't have WiFi on a metal shell camera, please explain to me why it works so well on the Olympus TG-3...

+1

There are metal-shelled WiFi devices, there are devices with touchscreens (including some cameras) that are shockproof (to MIL or other accepted standards), etc.  As I stated, these are engineering problems that have been solved.

It's ok, though.  If you need wifi on your 7DII/X, Canon will happily sell you the WFT-E8A for ~$800.  ::)

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EOS Bodies / Re: popup-flash - made a "pro feature"?
« on: August 16, 2014, 09:54:07 AM »

P.S. This is just my opinion and I have no problems with people finding a valid use for the popup flash. If you think it is absolutely critical to your work then I'll respect your point of view on the matter.

Fortunately it is the same opinion as many others - including Canon  ;)

I'm putting money on the 7DII not having one.

I sort of disagree.  If it's a 7D Mark II priced south of $2K, I think it'll have a popup flash.  If it's a 7D X priced north of $2K, I can see them omitting the PUF.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 09:48:14 AM »

Indeed, but the "what we’re getting is going to be true" seems to indicate high confidence that this information has a certain level of confidence.

Perhaps.  Note however the lack of a [CR3] designation – rather, this front page post seems to be a restatement of an earlier [CR2] post.  The length of this thread says that restatement has served it's purpose of driving site traffic...

The original [CR2] post about no wifi was updated to read: "We’ve been told that the omission of the wifi in the 7D replacement is due to how the body is designed. The durable full metal body would make wifi transmission unreliable at best."  To me, that renders the source questionable, as there are a variety of simple engineering solutions to that problem which Canon could have implemented. 

Consider the following two previous CR2 posts:

Quote from: Canon Rumors
We're told there are tons of new DSLR products coming for Photokina this September.

We’re getting more confirmations that the EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS will be replaced by a new version with a rotating zoom instead of the push/pull design that the lens currently uses.

Quote from: Canon Rumors
I’ve been told to expect two more announcements before Photokina begins in September.

We were recently told that a new EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS was coming sooner than we originally thought.

Both [CR2] like the original mentions of the 7DII info under discussion.  Both mentions of the new 100-400L sound pretty confident.  However, one refers to the upcoming Photokina meeting, while the other refers to the Photokina held in 2012. 

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Lenses / Re: Help deciding on going full frame
« on: August 16, 2014, 09:23:02 AM »
The 6D + 24-105 will certainly be sharper than your 550D + 18-135.  However, once you have that setup, I suspect you'll start comparing the 70-300L images to those with the 24-105, and soon be considering the 24-70/2.8 II despite the more restricted focal range. 

I had the 28-300L for a while, IQ is equivalent to the 24-105L across the range.  I have sold both the 24-105L and 28-300L, and now use the 24-70/2.8 II paired with the 70-300L for travel/walkaround, or with the 70-200/2.8L IS II for indoor events.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 08:49:59 AM »
Just speculation

The same could be said of almost all of these 'known' specs.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 16, 2014, 08:43:36 AM »
@ jrista – you seem to be taking the line of thought that including a touchscreen would come at the price of removing dials/buttons, but there no reason to think that would be the case on a higher end dSLR.  Rather, a touchscreen would add functionality.  If the 7DII has improved DPAF, would you really want to drive the AF point around the frame with a joystick? 

As others have stated, touch screens are becoming the norm - on phones, on remote controls, even on microwave ovens.  Your average teenager or twenty-something can type two-thumbed on an iPhone at wpm rates faster than most people can achieve on a regular keyboard.  Those are the people becoming professional photographers today. 

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Keep in mind it's a median number – half earn more, half less, based on the entire country. 

Looking at my own field, at my company we pay entry level new hires significantly more than the listed median. 

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 15, 2014, 03:35:24 PM »
Not a lie, but it's showing the magnesium shell.  That shell is attached to a composite/stainless steel skeleton whereas the Nikon has a magnesium skeleton throughout.  The lens mount, for example, is mounted to the composite mirror box.  My suspicion is that the shell is largely structural, especially around the mount area as there's a lip on the lens mount that mates with the magnesium shell, but I don't have any good way to demonstrate that without taking my 5D3 apart.  If you read Roger's article you can see how it's all put together.

Roger doesn't seem to say anything about it, that I can tell.  A reader comment suggested the mirror box was composite, Roger indicated the circuit boards were screwed into composite, but there could be metal under it.  The words 'magnesium' or 'steel' aren't used on the blog page.

It's interesting that the Canon mag-alloy frames seem more tightly constructed, using fewer pieces (at least, that's how it appears).

In other images of the 5DIII chassis, the 'mag allow shell over steel skeleton' isn't apparent, although it does seem the 5DIII's bottom plate may be steel (it's a different finish than the rest of the frame, at any rate).

So, I'm still not sure where you're getting this information...   ???

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 15, 2014, 02:20:37 PM »
The 5D series, however, has a stainless steel chassis...


So Canon's own image on the Canon USA page for the 5DIII is just a flat out lie?


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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 15, 2014, 01:38:52 PM »
The Nikon D800 (and I think D300s) have the same internal build quality as the 1D/D4 type cameras, aside from the improved sealing.

What's your source for this information ?

I'm curious as well...

It probably also depends on how you define 'build quality'.  Most of the higher end bodies have a magnesium alloy chassis and a polycarbonate shell.  I believe what distinguishes the 1-series bodies, aside from materials, are tighter manufacturing tolerances.

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Canon General / Re: A Rundown of EOS 7D Mark II Information
« on: August 15, 2014, 12:00:34 PM »
Is it feasible that it could be called an EOS 4D ???

Previously on this forum, it's been stated no, because of the negative connotation of the number four in Japanese culture.  Of course, that didn't stop Nikon...

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