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Lenses / Re: Best Value "Normal" Lens for 6d?
« on: December 02, 2012, 05:02:00 PM »
Latest sigma 35mm f1.4 received good feedbacks.

But...on a 6D, that's a wide angle lens, not a normal lens.

Lighting / Re: ST-E3-RT and 600EX-RT to trigger 580EXii ?
« on: December 02, 2012, 04:16:51 PM »
It would...if you replaced your 580s with 600s (and I'm sure that's what Canon wants you to do).  I expect that there will be a 430-replacement that's an -RT version (likely slave only).  Then, at some point in the future (likely when 600 and 4xx -RT sales wane), Canon will release an -RT receiver-only with a hotshoe for older flashes.  Yongnuo may beat them to the latter.

Canon General / Re: soon to be a 'Canon/DSLR newbie' here!
« on: December 02, 2012, 04:04:44 PM »
Just to add - if you've got the budget for the 60D, 18-135 kit, and 50/1.4, you might still be better off getting the 50/1.8...and a 430EX II.  Yes, the 60D has a built-in flash...but nothing says point-and-shoot snapshot like the popup flash. It's great for fill light outdoors, but as a main flash indoors, a 430EX II bounced off the ceiling will look a lot better.

Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: December 02, 2012, 03:46:03 PM »
So what do they make better outside the af department?

Oh, let's see...faster frame rates, better metering (1D X vs. D4), a radio-triggered flash system, better real-world high ISO performance...I could go on, but I'm growing bored with feeding this particular troll.

DSLR is a system. So you need to look at is as system: lens performance, color redition, AF accuracy and speed, ergonomics etc. You can not just single out pixel count, noise level and say who is more advance in technoloy.

Well, of course you can. I mean, if that's not what the Internet is for, then what good is it?!?   ::)

Canon General / Re: soon to be a 'Canon/DSLR newbie' here!
« on: December 02, 2012, 03:35:17 PM »
I got a little confused here. You praised the 50/1.4 at almost all the questions. but still pointed me back at the kit lens? And i've heard that the it's better to get the 1.4 compared to the 1.8 since it only has a bit of difference in price.

Well, yes...that's exactly what I did.  The best choice would be to get the 18-135 and the 50/1.4. But I wasn't sure that was viable from a cost standpoint.  Even better would be the 15-85mm lens and the 50/1.4. Plus a good tripod for nightscapes.  Or the 5DIII and several L lenses. Just stop me when the cost gets too high... ;)

My point was that the 18-135 + 50/1.8 is in the price range under discussion (a little less than the 60D + 50/1.4, I believe), not a couple hundred € extra.

Here's the thing - the 50/1.4 may offer slightly better IQ, but how much will that help if you hit the wall of the room before you can back up far enough to frame your shot?

Since you're talking about an APS-C camera, having just a 50mm lens means your only lens behaves as a short telephoto lens.  Now, if you stated you were getting this setup solely to shoot portraits, I'd say the 60D + 50/1.4 would be great. But for, "indoor stuff/landscapes/nightscapes/people (and) street," if you're going to have one lens, a zoom is a better choice.  A normal prime would possibly be ok (like a Sigma 30/1.4).  But not a short tele prime, IMO.

Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: December 02, 2012, 03:16:50 PM »
I think he means Canon is behind with their (crop sensor) technology,

Ahhhh. Next time I'm in the market for a naked piece of silicon imaged as a CMOS image sensor, I'll keep that in mind.  Usually, though, I prefer to buy cameras, not sensors.  All that other technology wrapped around the sensor is sort of important to me.

I never meant that they are behind sales whise. But technology whise.

For anyone who believes technology trumps sales, how many Betamax video tapes did you buy?  That was a demonstrably better technology than VHS.  Who won? 

And with that blanket 'Canon is behind' statement, you've brought us right back to where the thread started. Troll-ville. 

Lighting / Re: ST-E3-RT and 600EX-RT to trigger 580EXii ?
« on: December 02, 2012, 02:57:48 PM »
Just like Highlander (with apologies for the bad movie reference), "There can be only one."  There's one master, everything else is a slave. If the 600 is a slave (ST-E3 as master), it can't trigger a 580.

But, you mentioned not needing automatic metering.  In that case, why not just a set of 'dumb' RF triggers?  Yongnuo, Cactus, etc., would all work.

Portrait / Re: Opinion needed - Portrait post processing
« on: December 02, 2012, 02:39:06 PM »
I pick #4.   ;)

Lighting / Re: ST-E3-RT and 600EX-RT to trigger 580EXii ?
« on: December 02, 2012, 02:32:38 PM »
The ST-E3-RT has only a radio transmitter.  The 580 has only an optical receiver. The 600 has optical and radio transmission and reception.

An ST-E2 could trigger both the 580s and the 600, optically.

Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: December 02, 2012, 02:26:08 PM »
Subjective and bias.

Yes, now you're getting the point.  Opinions on Internet forums - this forum and others, your opinions and mine - are just that: subjective and biased.  That's why I brought up sales figures, which are objective.  One person may fervently believe that Nikon is better than Canon, while another rabidly believes the opposite.  But in aggregate, the data on dSLR market share indicate that more people have bought Canon dSLRs than Nikon dSLRs, consistently for the past several years.  Is Canon better? That's subjective. But the fact that Canon has outsold Nikon is an objective fact. I know what conclusion I draw from that fact...

Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: December 02, 2012, 01:56:14 PM »
We are talking about qualities of products in forums, and that's why we are here.  Market share is determined by many factors, and that's why Rebel outsold 5D, not because Rebel is better than 5D.

You were comparing the 5DII to the D700, not to a camera costing 1/5 as much (at least, you weren't to begin with, and I don't see your point in doing so now, except perhaps as a concession to the main point).  I think you're missing the point.  You may post on a forum that the D4 is the best camera in the world, but unless you use your fingers to hand your money to a vendor and buy one, your posted opinion isn't worth the 2 cents worth of electricity you wasted posting it. In any case, the people who post their opinions on forums represent a very small fraction of real buyers.  It's the opinions of those buyers that matter, in aggregate, and the 5DII was the clear winner over the D700 in that arena.

Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: December 02, 2012, 01:29:25 PM »
Ok then because of the rebels, but does that matter? They are resting now because they sold so much. Look at the crop Bodys, all have the same 4 year old sensor.

If you would open your eyes you would see that they are behind.

Yep, that same old 4 year old sensor is hurting their sales.  They are behind.  Open your eyes and look at the list below.  Now...who's behind?   ::)  Any Nikon bodies in the top 5?  Do your eyes see the D800's on that list?  It's way down at #25, with 16 Canon entries ahead of it.  Maybe when you buy one, that'll be enough to push it all the way up to #24...a spot currently held by the totally outmoded, no-longer-competitive Canon 5D Mark II.

Canon General / Re: soon to be a 'Canon/DSLR newbie' here!
« on: December 02, 2012, 01:12:41 PM »
Questions, 1) image quality wise, which of the two excel? 2) which would be better in low light or bright light? 3) Will I be missing out on the reach of the 18-135mm (close-ups/ tele) IF I do decide to get the 50mm f1.4?

1) The 50/1.4 will have better IQ when stopped down narrower than f/2.

2) The 50/1.4 will be better in low light - it lets in ~4 to 16 times as much light as the zoom lens. But...shooting at f/1.4 also means a very shallow depth of field, especially if your subject is close.

3) Yes, you'll probably miss the reach. You'll almost certainly miss the wide end, particularly since you mention shooting indoors.

I'd get the 18-135mm kit lens, and consider the cheaper 50/1.8 initially - versatility of a zoom plus low light capability of a fast prime for a reasonable cost.

Lenses / Re: Confused with what lens to get next
« on: December 02, 2012, 01:00:29 PM »
I'd say 17-55/2.8 IS, or 15-85/3.5-5.6 IS if you don't need f/2.8 (and with two primes in the range, you may not). Both will give you L-series optical quality with a much more useful focal range on APS-C, and both will actually give you as good or better IQ than the 24-105L, and better than the 17-40L, when used on your camera.

Lenses / Re: Torn between 2 lenses
« on: December 02, 2012, 12:55:44 PM »
Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 IS, no question. IMO, it's the best general purpose zoom for APS-C.

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