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A 7D, with a poor choice for an APS-C kit lens that you'd be lucky to sell for $200, wide/tele conversion filters that will take mediocre IQ and make it downright crappy, and few other el-cheapo bits and bobs. 

<sarcasm>What a great deal. Woot.</sarcasm>

Tried to pull a fast one and get it at Best Buy using their "price match" thing.  They don't stock it in store though  :'(

This price seems too low for Canon... even if a new one with the new AF system, higher resolution/better everything came out.  This price seems like an "F it" move that could only be appropriate if the eos M is going extinct already... or is that me overreacting...

Is it possible that a new mirrorless camera could come with the EF mount standard?

The 70-200 II had been selling at $2400, then in Dec 2012 it dropped by $500, and IIRC, Adorama sold it even cheaper for a few days.  The price went up - it's still cheaper than $2400, but >$300 more than the nadir.

I think the steep discount, combined with the facts that we're fast approaching the 1-yr anniversary of the EOS M announcement (late July, 2012) and that the M is a consumer camera and the Rebel/xxxD line has been getting annual updates, as well as the 70D's sensor, which is almost tailor-made for mirrorless, means that we'll see an M II announcement pretty soon.

But this really is a great price - as I said, it should be possible to sell it down the line for little loss. An M II will be far more expensive for a while.

Canon just released a UWA zoom for the M.  An M with an EF mount would be giving up the thinner depth that eliminating the mirror gives, it's not going to happen.

Lenses / Re: 70-300 DO - is it worth getting it?
« on: July 03, 2013, 04:55:08 PM »
 Instead of the 70-300 DO used, how about the 70-200/4L new?

Technical Support / Re: Help needes: EOS 7D - noisy pictures
« on: July 03, 2013, 04:20:50 PM »
Sometimes the HINR can introduce noise even when not shooting high ISO....even in RAW mode.

HINR shouldn't affect the RAW file - you're saying it does?  Can you show examples?

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D Next to Be Announced
« on: July 03, 2013, 03:40:44 PM »
The Mark III (and I'm assuming 1DX even more so) has good high ISO performance. It's low ISO that suffers. If anything Canon would want to fix that but I don't think they'd want to publicize it since the problem is not really well-documented except in niche communities. (Noisy ADC or somesuch.)

So why would they want to fix it at all?   ::)

Lenses / Re: 70-300 DO - is it worth getting it?
« on: July 03, 2013, 03:37:13 PM »
I would too prefer L over DO, but...
Or perhaps I'm taking it the wrong way? Maybe I should replace 17-85 with 24-105L for holidays in mountains?

If you have a 10-22 or other UWA solution for APS-C, yes.  Else, I wouldn't...

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1D X Product Advisory
« on: July 03, 2013, 03:31:55 PM »
Now i have to send it back to be cleaned but isn't it stupid to have a sensor of a brand new camera to be cleaned
and i did nothing to make it dirty.

Did you check it before you sent it in?  My brand new 1D X (preordered on day 1 last March) came from the factory complete with many 'randomly placed diffraction calibration dots' as a feature - i.e. the first thing I did with my new camera was clean the sensor.

Lenses / Re: 70-300 DO - is it worth getting it?
« on: July 03, 2013, 03:13:40 PM »
I had one, sold it.  Best thing about it is the small size - same as the 24-105L.  IQ is just ok, needs work on contrast and sharpness in post (although the DxO module handles that well), has an odd bokeh that post processing can't fix (you can see it in the foreground of the image below). 

EOS 7D, EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM @ 300mm, 1/500, f/6.3, ISO 640

Zoom creep is horrible - once with the lens fully extended, when tracking a bird flying overhead, the barrel slammed back in so hard I almost gave myself a black eye with the eyecup.   :o

I do see them a lot on Craigslist, and they don't move very well.  So if you're going to buy it, I'd try to pay no more that $700 so you can resell it without much loss (and hopefully none).

I have the 70-300L now, it's really an excellent lens!  Despite being a bigger than the DO version, I far prefer it.

Same price at Amazon now.

...and from Adorama's storefront on Amazon.com.  But not on Adorama.com, where it's still $479.   ???

FYI, it's available from Amazon again.

Another conspiracy theory bites the dust...   ;)

Could this mean they are coming out with a new version of the EOS M?
And maybe within a couple weeks.

Worth noting that the Canon USA Online Store lists it as Not Available.  Edit: that probably means nothing - I just noticed that the EF-M lenses are also listed as N/A, and even if an EOS M II comes out tomorrow, the lenses aren't going to be updated.

As for a new version being announced in a couple of weeks...buy it at this amazing price and don't open it.  B&H has a 30-day return period... 

Even after that, the price will go back up...it's over $400 everywhere else right now.  I'd bet it could be sold lightly used for the $300 it costs today, meaning no net loss. 

As for me, I just ordered one.  I'm certain we'll see an EOS M II at some point (possibly at some point soon), using the sensor in the 70D.  But for me, the EOS M isn't going to be an everyday camera, or even an occasional use camera.  It's going to be a backup camera, pure and simple.  For that purpose, this deal is too good to pass up...

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
« on: July 03, 2013, 11:15:13 AM »
@ tron - sorry, I forgot to append the <sarcasm> tags...   ;)

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
« on: July 03, 2013, 09:48:30 AM »
Where exactly was stated or who said, that 70D will set a new benchmark for High ISO? ..

Maybe this:

"The EOS 70D sensor has been manufactured using new materials in the colour filter, which enables the camera to achieve higher light transmittance. When combined with improved transistors inside the pixels, the EOS 70D is able to shoot at higher ISO speeds than previous models, whilst ensuring advanced image quality."

This is a rather vague description. It doesn't say anything specific.

For example: Raw files, ISO xxx of 70D = Raw files ISO yyy of another Canon camera

Anything else is marketing BS!

Au contraire...it's quite specific, and unassailable truth. Let's break it down:

1) new CFA materials with higher transmittance, and new circuitry - ok, we have to take Canon's word on that, but why would they lie?  And if the new CFA materials lower production costs and just happen to have higher transmittance as a side effect, that's all good.

2) the 70D is able to shoot at higher ISOs than previous models - it's spec is 100-12800 with one stop expanded, and the 60D is 100-6400 with one stop expanded, so that's true

3) it has advanced IQ - can be said of all current dSLRs, so that's true as well

See, that's the essence of marketing speak - be very specific and make accurate statements, whilst not really saying anything meaningful.

BS by any other name...   ::)

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
« on: July 03, 2013, 07:15:06 AM »
Seem like there is no mention of the 70D having weather sealing.

Seems you just missed it being mentioned several times in several places.  ;)

Same sealing as 60D (1-series >> 5DIII = 7D > 70D = 60D = 50D = 5DII).

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« on: July 02, 2013, 09:42:43 PM »
Man, it's about time they came up with a good new (actually NEW) sensor.

Sure. Because dividing every pixel in half for PDAF sensors covering the majority of the CMOS image sensor area has been done to death...   ::)

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