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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III (or other) Followup

« on: January 24, 2012, 04:02:29 PM »

Every one of them has a wheel exactly like the one on this grip that is used to attach and tighten the grip to the body.

This is like arguing about whether or not this camera is digital or film... It clearly is just a battery grip.

But this is a whole new camera.  Maybe the lock wheel unlocks something completely different.  The pearly gates, the door to the 5th dimension, heck, maybe they've decided to change over to a new thread mount for all their lenses, called EF-T, and this locking wheel is what you need to turn to unmount the lens.  It's pure coincidence that it's the same type of wheel and in the same place as on every other Canon battery grip.  There is no line separating the grip from the body.  There are five lights, not four.  Clearly, we can see what we want. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III (or other) Followup

« on: January 24, 2012, 03:12:34 PM »

If not ... how do you explain that is no delimitation between the camera itself and the grip?

There's not?  What's that by his thumb?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5D X Speculation

« on: January 24, 2012, 03:00:11 PM »

Really it depends on the ISO - a crop sensor is better for reach at lower ISO, but IMHO a crop of a full frame image is better at higher ISO.

Assuming the intent is a common result such as a print of a given size, are you aware that cropping the image from a FF sensor down to the FoV of an APS-C sensor throws away all of the advantage the FF sensor provides?  FWIW, it also eliminates the shallower DoF you started with on FF...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 600D body, and a canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8, product photography??

« on: January 24, 2012, 02:53:36 PM »

With the furniture product photography, i will have to get a few close up shots of door handles, etc. I like what i'm hearing about the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8. I will need to get a few close up shots of door handles, etc, will this lense be ok to use for that?

Yes, it will be fine for that.  At 55mm and the minimum focus distance (~14"), you'll frame an area of approximately 5.4"x3.6".

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EOS Bodies / Re: The 5D Mark III Megapixel Count? [CR2]

« on: January 24, 2012, 02:35:33 PM »

I don't like to have at 1Dx with 70-200 1:2,8L around my neck skiing for at hole day. It is too big and too havy. The 40D and 70-200 1:2,8L is havy enough. And taking pictures of skiiers and snowboaders is one of my passions. 

I wouldn't want a Rebel and 18-55mm kit lens hanging from my neck all day.  You might want to consider a Blackrapid strap, Cotton Carrier, Lowepro chest harness, or some other solution that takes the weight off your neck.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III (or other) Followup

« on: January 24, 2012, 02:19:06 PM »

The battery grip is not integrated, the dented thing under the LCD is the attachment screw between body and grip

I think is integrated

Well, no, it's not.  But if you think it's integrated, what do you think that knurled thumbwheel on the grip with "lock" printed next to it will unlock if turned in the direction opposite the arrow? 

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* 5D Mark III Sighting?

« on: January 24, 2012, 01:24:43 PM »

Stephen Quote: "I hope this helps everyone understand that this is not an inside "leak" or media attempt on the part of Canon".


Now you tell me how the hell  he knows that if he said that he spoke with the guy only twice , he was just too sure of that in my understanding, Canon is just playing Nikon's game at the moment. Im not blaming Stephen, i just think that he is just naive to think that Canon would do such a silly thing.

You seem to be riding this horse awfully hard.  What he seems to be saying is that Canon had no direct role or influence over his taking those images and posting them to the Internet on his blog.  Is that so hard for people to accept?

Now...did Canon intentionally set up a situation where something like this could happen, by sending a prototype camera to a very public location certain to be filled with photographers?  Quite likely. But please, let's leave out the full on conspiracy theory...

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 24, 2012, 12:59:39 PM »

Nice shot; so to my point, two questions for you [very unscientific poll];
1. Do you believe this shot be any different/better at f/2?
2. Would you have bought a 35mm f/2L instead if available? All else being equal - build quality, etc. Presumably cheaper with smaller filters?
Just curious.

Thanks!

I'd say worse, because there would be less OOF blur, which is what I was going for.  Attached below are a pair of simlar shots, the first at f/1.4, the second at f/3.2 - not a test, just playing around.  Both are with the 5DII and 35L.  I prefer the wider aperture, personally.  Note that you can't make out the face in the background at all with f/1.4, while I find it distracting at f/3.2.

I don't think I'd have bought a 35/2L if available - faster is better, for aperture if not ISO.  In the shot above, I was at ISO 100 - clearly, I had a lot of freedom to bump that up (I find ISO 3200 usable on the 5DII, be even conservatively saying ISO 1600, that shot could have been taken at f/5.6 instead of f/1.4 with the same shutter speed.  Filter size?  I actually prefer the 72mm - it's the same size as the 85/1.2L II and the 135L, meaning the same 3-stop ND filter works on the entire 'holy trinity' and a 3-stop ND is just right for outdoor, wide open portraits and/or overcoming the sun with flash.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III (or other) Followup

« on: January 24, 2012, 12:51:32 PM »

Seems to me that 5D3 would be introduced well before a 7D2.   At least it's due sooner.

Based on what?  An n=2 for the 5-series and an n=1 for the 7-series?  One point isn't even enough for a trendline...

There you go being all logical.... You're going to anger all the crazy 7D APC-S fanatics by talking like that. 

There won't be a 7-series with APS-H.  Too confusing for EF-S compatibility.  Does anyone really want to consult a table or other resource to determine which lenses will work with which bodies?  Would any manufacturer push out such a confusing system to make things more complex for their customers?  I mean, there's absolutely no precedent for that...   

But, nothing preculdes another line for a semi-pro APS-H camera...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 600D body, and a canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8, product photography??

« on: January 24, 2012, 12:45:18 PM »

For the products, either lens will do, as unfocused states.  The 15-85mm has a closer minimum focus distance, and that combined with a longer focal length mean higher maximum magnification, so the 15-85mm is better for smaller products (the advantage is really for much smaller products than you mention, things like coins/pens/etc.).

The other consideration is distortion - the 17-55mm has less barrel distortion at the wide end, meaning straighter lines.  From that perspective, it's a better choice for furniture.  But, that only applies at the wide end - by 20mm or so, the distortion is gone from both lenses, so if you have room to back up, it's not an issue.

Basically, I'd suggest making your decision based on other things you want to shoot - the 17-55mm will be better for portaits and shooting moving subjects in low light, the 15-85mm will give a broader focal range which is useful for landscapes and general shooting in good light.  The 15-85mm is also substantially cheaper, so if budget is an issue, I'd definitely take the 15-85m plus a good tripod over the 17-55mm plus a cheap tripod (which isn't any better than no tripod at all).

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 24, 2012, 12:23:10 PM »

I would certainly love to see an example of a real world shot using the 24 1.4 wide open [out of 100 shots - how many @ 1.4?] compared to ones shot at f2 or even 2.8 - real difference? care to share?

Well, I don't have the 24L, but I do have the 35mm f/1.4L...


EOS 5D Mark II, EF 35mm f/1.4L USM, 1/30 s, f/1.4, ISO 100

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III (or other) Followup

« on: January 24, 2012, 12:10:46 PM »

I posted on another thread, but will ask the question here as well: if the autofocus is the only major upgrade, is that enough for people to buy the 5DIII?

If the price was the same as the 'usual' 5DII price (before the recent drops, i.e. ~US$2500) and the AF was substantially improved, I would strongly consider it instead of the 1D X, especially with the second joystick on the battery grip.  12 fps would be nice, of course, but I don't have a real issue with the current 3.9 fps.

For me, it will depend on the nuances.  I'm fortunate that budget isn't an overriding consideration - yes, I'd like to spend only $3K on camera+grip and leave $6K for lenses (differential from 1D X plus proceeds from sale of 5DII).  But it would depend on how much of an upgrade the AF got, and probably also how improved the 1D X's ISO performance really is - Canon has claimed 2 stops for JPGs over the 1DIV, but then they've also claimed, "A new photodiode structure with an increased photoelectric conversion rate increases the sensor's sensitivity by approximately 2 stops over previous models, meaning higher ISOs with the lowest noise of any EOS digital camera."  So, which is it?  If it's two real stops of improvements due to sensor enhancements and thus reflected in the RAW files...an ISO 12800 that delivers similar noise as ISO 3200 on the 5DII would incline me to the 1D X.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 600D body, and a canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8, product photography??

« on: January 24, 2012, 12:03:02 PM »

IMO, the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS is the best general purpose lens for an APS-C camera.  It will work fine for your stated needs.  You could also consider the EF-S 15-85mm - that's an excellent outdoor walkaround lens, usually less suitable indoors because of the slower aperture, meaning you often need flash.  But products don't move, so slow shutter speeds aren't a problem.

What you will absolutely need for product photos is a good, stable tripod and a remote release (cable release or IR remote).  For studio use, the weight of the tripod isn't a real issue, consider something like a this Manfrotto kit, which includes legs and a good ballhead.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III (or other) Followup

« on: January 24, 2012, 11:21:30 AM »

Unless this is indeed a Canon leak and they put the tape there just to mess with us

I like the tape.  Clearly it's intended to hide the Canon logo.  Because attaching the camera to a big white lens give absolutely no clue as to its brand.

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* 5D Mark III Sighting?

« on: January 24, 2012, 11:19:30 AM »

I'm thinking more and more that this is a new line.  If it's really got 'pro AF' and no pop-up flash, it could be APS-H as some have suggested - a 'pro 7D' replacement that would fill the needs of wildlife shooters.  They could bring it in cheaper than the 1D IV, say $3800.  The would keep selling the 5DII for the time being - it's still selling well - and eventually they'd release a C dSLR for the video side, and a high MP 5DIII for studio/landscape.