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Lenses / Re: Excellent shorter lens with TC vs Average longer lens
« on: October 02, 2012, 10:47:42 AM »
Thanks, should have mentioned that my interest is mostly astronomy related.  Currently using a 400mm with two 2x teleconverters on an m4/3 cameras (to give me an effective 3200mm).  But getting annoyed with noise and my photos could be sharper (and probably my tripod more stable).  Plus the small aperture doesn't help with getting sharp images.  Its not a bad set up for bright objects such as the moon, but planets look like tiny fuzzy blobs.  Just daydreaming about other options.  Maybe a telescope is the solution.

Software & Accessories / Re: Who uses a handheld light meter?
« on: October 02, 2012, 08:52:06 AM »
Maybe look at the second hand market.  If you can do some simple maths, then the older Pentax and Minolta spot meters are well regarded.

Nearly every serious photography book I read advocates a spot meter and the zone system or similar including sketching the scene and pencilling in all of the readings to determine the exposure and look that you are seeking.  To me, it seems overly complex and cumbersome....but then, my failure to do this consistently (and my fear of snakes!) might explain why I'm not a world reknown landscape photographer.  I suspect that one of the main benefits of using a light meter is that it makes you think more about what you are doing.  That alone might lead to better photographs. 

Actually, I have an RB67 too hence my reason for one....

You've never been tempted by the metered prism finder?

Lenses / Excellent shorter lens with TC vs Average longer lens
« on: October 02, 2012, 07:42:22 AM »
Was just checking the Samyang site and see they've got an 800mm mirror lens and a 650-1300mm zoom.  A second hand shop near my work has a Meade 1000mm f/11 mirror lens for sale.  And I see a lot of similar lenses for sale on eBay.  A quick google search suggests the image quality from these lenses isn't great. seems you get what you pay for.   

But my question is this: -

If you had a 300mm f/4, would your cropped image appear sharper than a cheap 1000mm+ lens?  What about a 300mm with a teleconverter or two?  Is there any point to buying a cheaper, longer lens?

Software & Accessories / Re: Who uses a handheld light meter?
« on: October 02, 2012, 07:27:01 AM »
Guilty.  But I only use it with my film cameras.  My RB67 doesn't have a built in light meter.  And while the meter in my Mamiya 6 is ok, I still occassionally find a light meter to be a good reality check - especially when using flash.

With my DSLR, I find the preview from the LCD and histogram more than sufficient.

Perhaps I'm getting lazy, but as there is no direct financial cost with taking digital photos, I'm quite happy to snap away until I've got the exposure I want.  And bracketing isn't necessarily a bad option as it can give you post production possibilities.

EOS Bodies / Re: mhm... open letter to canon?
« on: September 26, 2012, 05:46:44 AM »
I've got an older 1Ds Mkii and was hoping that a 6D might be the next thing for me.  I'll like the smaller size and the video capabilities.  Higher ISOs, WiFi and GPS will also be fun to play with.  But there are a few things that aren't quite as good.  Just wish the decision was a bit easier. 

EOS Bodies / Re: mhm... open letter to canon?
« on: September 26, 2012, 04:26:32 AM »
I agree.  And I'm not reallly advocating a switch.  I just think that if the 6D is a sales disaster then Canon will have to give some serious thought to where they went wrong.  Although, realistically, I suspect it will be a sales success and the Canon execs will probably sit around slapping each other on their backs saying how awesome they (and the 6D) are.

EOS Bodies / Re: mhm... open letter to canon?
« on: September 26, 2012, 01:52:52 AM »
It was about the fact that their website does not disclose any RRPs...

Getting a little off topic, but its good to see a lot of authorised reps (such as Camerapro in Brisbane) list the 6D at $2199.  The do say the price might change, but I think it bodes well.  When you consider that price includes $200 GST, the underlying price is even cheaper than the US.  Overall, local Canon pricing for camera bodies hasn't been shocking me as much as it used to.

Back on topic, I can't believe how much anger the 6D has generated.  Peoples, its just a camera.  It will probably work very well, even if it is uninspiring to many.  There's plenty of other alternative cameras out there.  You don't have to pin your hopes and aspirations on this one.  If its not perfectly suited to your needs, don't buy it.  The best way of getting your message across to Canon is for them to see all of their 6Ds gathering dust on the shelf while the D600 sells like hotcakes.

EOS Bodies / Re: Why are flash sync shutter speeds getting worse?
« on: September 24, 2012, 11:50:06 PM »
I wouldn't say they are getting worse.  Just not getting better.  For the better part of the last twenty years most mid range Canons have been around the 1/180 - 1/200s mark.  Less than 10 years ago, a lot of Canon bodies were still in the 1/90 - 1/125s range.  Unfortunately, it seems you can have a fast max shutter speed, or a fast sync speed, but you can't have both.  I might be sounding like a Canon apologist, but I prefer the option of a faster shutter speed on my DSLRs for action photos (if I want faster sync speed, I'll just use of my medium format cameras - but then I can't go out in the sun or I have to use very small apertures).  Now, where did Canon put that 1/8000s shutter speed....

EOS Bodies / Re: Best FF option
« on: September 24, 2012, 07:51:00 AM »
Get a 6D?
Love to know why you recommend a 6D?
I would have thought a 6D would be exactly what you need if you're just after a second body for the 7D to do architectual, landscapes, portraits etc as you won't need the more advanced AF capabilities and frame speed of the 7D or 5Diii aren't needed here.  Keep some cash in your pocket instead. 

I'd assume the image quality would be on par with other full frame options.  In fact, the lower MPs might even lead to lower noise if doing night time architectual shots.  The only real down side seems to be the slower flash synch speed.

Lenses / How are lenses measured?
« on: September 22, 2012, 04:01:36 AM »
Can anyone provide a simple explanation as to how the focal length of a lens is measured?  Where is measured from?  What makes a 17mm lens a 17mm lens?  What makes a 400mm lens a 400mm lens.  My initial thought was that if you held up a negative 400mm from your eye, you might get a similar angle of view to a 400mm lens.  But that doesn't seem quite right, and doesn't account for fish eye lenses etc.  A quick google search didn't shed much light.  Does anyone know?

Lenses / Re: last call for vacation lenses
« on: September 22, 2012, 03:40:56 AM »
A tough choice.  My heart says 35mm as it is such a nice lens, but my head says 17-40mm as it covers a wide range of focal lengths that would be very handy on your trip.  And then there's the tilt-shift.  Not only does it have capabilities missing in all of the other lenses, but 24mm is an ideal focal length for many things you intend to do.  Do you have Sherpas to carry your gear?  If so, take the whole lot.  If you're carrying everything yourself....eeny, meeny, miny, moe......I don't know.  Maybe the 35mm?

Not sure where the premise is coming from.  Are a lot of Canon products expensive?  Yes.  Do they represent value?  A difficult question to answer.  But Canon cameras and lenses don't seem overpriced compared to the competition.  In fact, many things are cheaper (and yet still better) than comparable competitor products.  And given that several camera manufacturers are struggling with profitability, its difficult to argue there is a lot of price gouging or fixing going on.  But I'd agree that Canon can sometimes be "tricky" with some of their prices especially when they perceive high demand (eg 5Diii), but I think that helps them offer other things more competitively.

With EF-S lenses, some such as the 10-22 sell second hand with only a small drop in value.  Cheap, basic kit lenses don't retain their value (and arguably never have).  Its not because they are "bad" lenses.  Its simple supply and demand.  People are buying second hand because they want a better-than-a-kit-lens lens.  Quality lenses and cameras retain their value.  The only time when you do see significant drops in value is when a mount becomes orphaned - eg Minolta MC/MD.  But even recently, there has been an increase in a prices, which has possible been driven by their compatability with mirrorless cameras. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 18, 2012, 05:17:10 AM »
FYI: No Touchscreen

Imagine how cool a touch screen would have been.  11 AF points, plus the ability to select a focus point anywhere on the touchscreen (in photo mode and continuous video AF) would negate a lot of the negative sentiments about the AF system.  Rather than being a step backward from the 5Diii, it would just be "Different" to the 5Diii. Given the 650D has a touch screen, I'm rather surprised Canon haven't rolled all of the cool tech into this one - even if it would have added a bit to the sale price.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: September 17, 2012, 08:29:08 PM »
...On the other hand, the Nikon D600 beats it in every way ...

Your points are valid, but apart from the better AF (and it remains to be seen if the 6D is actually "bad"), a wide range of people wouldn't care too much about the rest.  Many people prefer external flash units, the MP difference is negligible, and the dual card slots, while handy, isn't a deal breaker for a lot of people.

And the 6D has a lot of positive features that are lacking on the D600 which will appeal to a wide range of people.  Personally, I like the idea of the faster max shutter speed, higher ISOs, better low light AF capabilities, built in WiFi and GPS.  For someone like myself who takes a lot of photos late in the day, or night time sports, it might be ideal.  I'm certainly starting to warm to it and can't wait to read some proper reviews. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 06:55:09 AM »
Two thoughts: -


But overall, probably not a bad little camera. 

In wishful thing mode, I wonder if Canon can add WiFi and GPS to the 5Diii as a pre-christmas facelift?  That would make the 5Diii a very attractive proposition.

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