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Vent on  >:(

LR 4 upgrade - USD 79 or UKP59

CS6 upgrade - USD 199 or UK190.

I *do* hope that's just some typo on the UK side and not a rethink on exchange rates....

Vent off... please continue as normal ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 and Canon's Comeuppance
« on: April 22, 2012, 01:45:32 PM »
If you have any examples of direct comparison, that would be great...
Direct comparisons? You mean shoot this scene, put the one camera down, shoot the same scene with a different camera? I'm afraid that would be impossible. If you don't want direct comparisons, the internet is littered with shots from a 1D4/400mm combination sports shots and there are a number on my web site.

Yup, outside your professional shooting, I just assumed you had maybe done some comparison - not during the polo games and the like  :D The 27MP effective of the 1D vs the 25MP crop of the D800 both at 400mm would be interesting, but I appreciate that is being cheeky!! ;D

And sure, I'm willing to admit that part of my glee is due to the lens, but I also temporarily shot with a d7000 and wasn't nearly as smitten. I was going to get a D4, but full frame 16.2MP just wasn't going to cut it. I used to shoot important events with a 1D4/400 on a tripod and a 7D/70-200 f2.8 II on my shoulder for when the action got close. Now I'm hand-holding everything with just one camera and getting great shots.

Indeed, so it is not more the lens and not the camera? Handholding the 400mm would be difficult, hence your use of a tripod and the inflexibility that comes with that. Handholding the 200-400mm I would guess is a little more difficult than the 70-200, plus the extra MP is a little more unforgiving. Don't get me wrong, I am only trying to understand, not trying to critique. Your money, your job, your decision.  :)


Canon doesn't really have an answer. I have explained this before, so if you've read it, move along. There's the vapor-lens 200-400/f4 +1.4x that I had been waiting on for the better part of 3 years, but the pricing on that looks to be more than what I paid for the d800 and the 200-400/f4 lens. Then what would I put that lens on? A $3500 5D3? That has no advantages. A 1Dx? I suppose that might be killer, but to get the reach of the d800 I have to drop in the 1.4x and then I'm at f5.6. And then there's the small matter of the $6800 price tag of the camera. The MSRP of the Canon 200-400 + 1Dx looks to be approaching $19,000. I paid almost exactly half that. Half!!

Plus this lens still doesn't exist... and neither does the camera. Some will say "nobody pays full MSRP for lenses." Well, yes they do. In the first year or so when they come out, the big lenses sell at full price, if you can even find them. The 400/2.8 II is still $11,500 at B&H and Adorama, despite being out for some time. It may come down in a while but how long do I wait. Until 2014?

I'm not crazy. I'm not needlessly berating Canon with my shrill hysterics. Others will do what I have done. Many others.

As per my original post, Andy Biggs & Andy Rouse are 2 big names in wildlife who swapped from Canon based on the 200-400mm and the AF of the series III I believe. So yes, the specific combination of lens & a good Nikon body is what made it for you. And I have considered it myself....

But, and I appreciate it is subjective and somewhat emotive, other than the 36MP and the flexibility of the 200-400mm lens, what's your initial impression of the differences between the two? Handling, AF, ISO etc? Not looking to bate you or anyone else, just interested in your feedback.... thanks

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 and Canon's Comeuppance
« on: April 22, 2012, 08:50:25 AM »
Gear is gear. It's normal for everyone to want more for less/same, unless you work for Canon or Nikon :-)

Are Canon perhaps pushing the envelope of reasonable pricing? Yup. How much did the flooding & earthquake cost them? Dunno. Why are they charging more than Nikon? Numerous factors I am sure, many of which have been floated here.

Should we continue to berate Canon? Well only if it is measured complaints. If anyone from Canon does read this site, if it becomes rant/vent central then I think they will frequent it less. I certainly would. Will pricing on the Canon lenses & bodies come down? History shows it should, so if you don't have a burning need then wait. I'm still happy with my kit and will wait out 2012 to decide and just hope to improve my photography :-)

To the original OP - how much are you putting down the better photography to the 200-400mm VR and how much to the D800? I know of a few photographers who have switched to Nikon specifically for the 200-400mm, and although Canon have one on the horizon, I suspect many people here will be more interested in a 100-400mm MK II (due to pricing)....

So, how much is the AF of the D800 better than the 1D MK IV for you, and how much is the 200-400mm giving you better flexibility to catch the photos you desire? Comparing the 400mm vs the 200-400mm is frankly unfair given all the variables. D800 better resolution? Sure, the 1D has an effective 27MP to a FF, so the 36 of the D800 will certainly help some in terms of cropping...

If you have any examples of direct comparison, that would be great...

Finally, I personally like the fact that I can shoot stills for 95% of the time, but can use the same glass on the same body, flip a switch and take some video. When I travel, my bag is full and I even try to avoid taking my 20D IR now just to avoid 2 sets of batteries & chargers. All my critical gear is in hand luggage which restricts me to those airlines that allow 15+ KG of kit. Adding a separate Video Camera even if it can take my EF lenses is just more kit. Appreciate it is horses for courses...

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would be interested in some mid-term views from those who have picked up a D800, once you've got used to the camera and have a good feel on how to get the best from it...

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Yup, still watching events unfold this year... If I change, then I will follow the same route as Mt Spokane ie grab a body & a lens or two and run them in parallel. After a year of using both, decide which fits my needs...

For me, hiring for a weekend or week is not enough, I think I would prefer to buy & sell 2nd hand if it does not work out. Similarly, I have no problems in picking up 2nd hand Nikon or Canon.

What worries me more about Canon currently is their apparent shift to charging more for equipment, which appears to fly in the face of a lot of tech companies who tend to give you more value than the previous generation but maintain the price. It is a longer term game for me. I am currently picking over what my likely spend would be in equipment over the next 3 to 4 years across all facets and deciding which is likely to fit my needs. But I don't think I will decide until the end of the year at the earliest.

Till then, I will be spending my money on mostly photographic trips and perhaps a couple of 2nd hand items to fill a couple of gaps.

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People (& history) remembers great photos, great videos, not great cameras. And yes, people on here will disagree with that which is good. Healthy discussion is good, and the same happens with cars, bikes, computers, software, phones etc.

At the end of the day, the best camera is indeed the one you have with you at the time, and you can get a great picture one you understand how to get the best out of both the camera and post processing. My friend still uses his 5D and takes great photos with it. Any dslr in the past 5+ years from most manufacturers can do this.

But the human desire to be competitive means there will always be people who feel the need to justify their buying decision. I find some of these discussions enlightening as there are far more knowledgeable people on this forum than I, and if you pick through some of the points you can learn a lot.

I'm still watching and waiting to see whether Nikon is better longer term than Canon, for the moment however I see no compelling reason to replace my Canon equipment...

Happy photography :-)

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Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom 4 RC 64-bit ??
« on: April 19, 2012, 04:40:33 AM »
Googled stuff up. Found nothing. Never had issues before installing 4.1

I have a i7-950 @4Ghz, 12 GB RAM. 128GB SSD with 1.5TB Back-up HDD. I have a second set of 12 GB's that I swapped out and both sets had same issue.

Reinstalled.. works fine now (not installed LR4.1 yet... I am too scared): I say fine... but sometimes I will get BSOD's while the system is trying to sleep... which might be a driver issue, but before after 10 minutes of booting regardless of what i was doing, it would BSOD after every 10 minutes of logging into Win 7 Ultimate x64bit.

Again it could be just my system.

What does your event log say - what BSOD do you get? And have you always had this with the O/C CPU? Have you tried with the system running without any O/C - would assume you have since you seem to be able to reproduce the issue fairly consistently.. ? Not saying I can help, but always willing :-)

Thanks. I have run the cpu at 4.3Ghz at 1.26v without issues. It's water cooled.

But at the time of BSOD's, I had it clocked down to 4, then stock 3.06, even tried 2.8 and 2.66Ghz... same issue. Perhaps it could have been a SSD filled up issue... but I doubt it since it showed 40GB free bfore Win 7 reintsall. NOw it is back up at 4Ghz, no problems, re-installed.  I guess I will try 4.1 again ... soon :-)

The funny thing is, when it BSoD's, it always did it 10 minutes after boot up, whether I was logged on Windows, active or inactive or even not logged on... it would just BSOD and restart... Every effin 10 minutes.
Disk space is unlikely to cause BSOD, SSD firmware has however been known to cause this esp. on OCZ SSDs. As you say if it does not reappear since the re-install, even with O/C then all is good. The fact that it occurred at login means that it is unlikely to be app related as no user context exists at this stage, so unless the app has installed system-level drivers (e.g. AV, FW), then it is most likely not that causing the issue, again eliminating LR as the culprit

Alas the reinstall also means we can't see inside the eventlog, which is of course where you want to look. If it does re-occur, would be good to know what the BSOD code / event id was as this often helps eliminate / narrow down the causes....

Finally, if it comes back with LR 4.x it would point more towards some issue with your graphics card / drivers, but was not aware of LR doing any system-level hooks - it just talks direct to your Gfx card. Again, eventlog with BSOD code should help confirm this.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon announces D3200 - 24 MP APS-C
« on: April 19, 2012, 03:37:23 AM »
like the little wi-fi. sensible price for once....

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Lenses / Re: 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS vs 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« on: April 18, 2012, 06:22:02 PM »
Why not get the Canon Extender 1.4x II or 2x III?  8)

The 70-300 L does not accept an extender.
Not a Canon extender, no, Canon "fixed" that. It does with the Kenko Pro range. Alas not had chance to compare with the 100-400 as mine is alas a rubbish copy. Others however on this forum have good copies so I think that I'm in a minority.

@OP - You're 200mm on the 50D gave you effective 320mm, with 1.4x converter then it gave you 448mm. If you need that sort of reach, then is it not more of a compare the 100-400mm with the 400mm f/5.6 and keep you're existing 70-200?


I Think criza meant an 1.4 extender to the 70-200f4. Which would actually make the fov similar to an 50d without extender...
Yup you're right, sorry to OP and thanks for highlighting. The 70-300mm L is a more recent lens. From what I have seen, quicker AF, better IS than 100-400mm. You're "used" to an effective reach of ~300mm, so I would add another option which is simply the 1.4x extender to give you the reach you had. And I've seen a review which said quality of the 70-200 with 1.4x and 70-300mm was close. If you don't need the range of 300mm, then the 70-200 without the 1.4x converter is sharper. The 1.4x might also defer your decision until a possible 100-400mm MK II appeared.

If you need 400mm reach, and want flexibility, then the 100-400mm is your option. I've not seen comparison on 400mm f/4 vs the 100-400mm if reach is your only concern and you have flexibility in positioning.

Of course, if you have a friendly dealer, then I am sure you could try the lenses outside their shop with moving vehicles and see which you prefer...?

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Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom 4 RC 64-bit ??
« on: April 18, 2012, 06:11:37 PM »
Googled stuff up. Found nothing. Never had issues before installing 4.1

I have a i7-950 @4Ghz, 12 GB RAM. 128GB SSD with 1.5TB Back-up HDD. I have a second set of 12 GB's that I swapped out and both sets had same issue.

Reinstalled.. works fine now (not installed LR4.1 yet... I am too scared): I say fine... but sometimes I will get BSOD's while the system is trying to sleep... which might be a driver issue, but before after 10 minutes of booting regardless of what i was doing, it would BSOD after every 10 minutes of logging into Win 7 Ultimate x64bit.

Again it could be just my system.

What does your event log say - what BSOD do you get? And have you always had this with the O/C CPU? Have you tried with the system running without any O/C - would assume you have since you seem to be able to reproduce the issue fairly consistently.. ? Not saying I can help, but always willing :-)

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Lenses / Re: 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS vs 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« on: April 18, 2012, 04:16:19 PM »
Why not get the Canon Extender 1.4x II or 2x III?  8)

The 70-300 L does not accept an extender.
Not a Canon extender, no, Canon "fixed" that. It does with the Kenko Pro range. Alas not had chance to compare with the 100-400 as mine is alas a rubbish copy. Others however on this forum have good copies so I think that I'm in a minority.

@OP - You're 200mm on the 50D gave you effective 320mm, with 1.4x converter then it gave you 448mm. If you need that sort of reach, then is it not more of a compare the 100-400mm with the 400mm f/5.6 and keep you're existing 70-200?

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Big Megapixel Body in 2013?
« on: April 18, 2012, 02:05:50 PM »
Sony will release a high MP and therefore Canon will not be the only one without such a system.

I think H1 2013 will be shipping date, I think Q4 it will be announced (with their current track record). Might even be earlier if they think there is a significant exodus elsewhere....

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Software & Accessories / Re: Lightroom 4 RC 64-bit ??
« on: April 18, 2012, 02:03:16 PM »
Maybe its just me... but I had BSOD's in win 7 after installing 4.1. Could be a co-incidence or there could be a link. But reinstalling Windows and all apps was no fun at all... took a week.
Did you google the event id for the BSOD? That will normally help identify where the culprit lies. I've not experienced BSOD with LR (any version) incl RC 4.1 64bit. Mine tend to be HW / HW Drivers related....

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MKIII vs 1Ds MKIII
« on: April 16, 2012, 07:21:25 PM »
Perhaps you are thinking of the 1D3 AF problem - the 1DS3 has always had good AF.
I always knew about this problem with the 1D3, but read in a forum elsewhere that the 1Ds3 also had this problem - it's possible that that person didn't have their facts straight.
IIRC, 1Ds MK III had/has the same AF issues as the 1D3, hence why one of the Canon fixes for AF was for both 1D & 1Ds (I had both my bodies adjusted).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delays
« on: April 13, 2012, 06:12:19 PM »

So they are close then ...

 ;)

I didn't have much time do compare them more - I wanted to enjoy 1D X as much as possible, so I left 5D III behind :) But yes, 5D III's AF is great, I'm not afraid to say better then 1D IV.

Hi - I know it is not a really fair comparison, but would you have any views on quality of 1D IV vs IDX or the 5D III please?

From what we can start seeing left and right on various post, it looks very promissing!  (ok ok wishful thinking on my part since I ordered it and paid in full already!).
I wanted to see how much the IDX or 5D III was better, I just figure there will be a good number of MK IVs going for a good deal soon, and since no f/8 on the 1DX then I like to look at options...

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