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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: February 05, 2015, 07:09:22 PM »
If it is only the high resolution sensors, could please someone explain, in simple terms, why this is.

It's about pixels per image height. If you take a picture of, lets say, an animal in the zoo you could either use  ff/300/4mm or APS-C/200/2.8mm, you'll get basically the same result. The same amount of shake will cause the same details to vanish.
But if you use a higher res ff sensor you should be able to resolve smaller details - those have already been destroyed when you're applying the same standards as before.

Thanks for replying, and sorry, but I'm not quite clear. I get the point about different lenses / different focal lengths. But if my high res sensor has the same pixel density as it's APS brethren, does it apply equally to both (as in the caution required) ?

Off to bed, so won't be able to read any response for a few hours :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:45:48 PM »
a question please to the more knowledgeable folk here.

When the D800 was launched, there was a lot of talk about using the proper techniques to ensure you got sharp images based on the resolution. If the pixel density of the 5Ds will be similar to the 7d MK II, why is this never said about APS-C cameras, and does it therefore only apply to the high resolution models? If it is only the high resolution sensors, could please someone explain, in simple terms, why this is.

Thanks in advance

Roll on 6hrs 15 mins :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Dawn of a New Digital Resolution
« on: February 05, 2015, 01:05:56 PM »
Hi All


Why did they use the plural when referring to the picture of the cameras when one was a 1DX is that getting a boost as well????


Regards

Jon

EDIT it looks like that image refers to the sidebar not the headline sorry

The CPN site had multiple headlines. The picture of the 5D III & 1DX refers to the new firmware release.

Over the top, there was a "newsflash" about the Dawn....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?
« on: February 05, 2015, 08:29:11 AM »
Thanks for posting, but understandably no more details than are present on this site, or indeed CanonWatch...

Will be interesting to see Dpreview's comments as they always get an advanced copy, and where the information will come from about the source of the sensor (fab, design, construct)...


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EOS Bodies / Re: The Dawn of a New Digital Resolution
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:52:24 AM »
it's gone now....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:47:51 AM »
Yes, I will grab the first batch of 5DS, with out thinking.
Yes, I grab 7D MKII and fell in love with that Baby too, Just another  New toy for me, After I work so hard in 2014, and I must have some thing to reward my self----Ha, Ha, Ha.---Yes, I know, This new camera will never make me take the better Photos any ways, Just get the Happy feeling when I touch the New toy, and pretend that the Next Photo might be my Masterpiece---And That might worth my Money.
Have a great Week, Sir, Madame.
Surapon

If it makes you happy then you should reward yourself! At least you are being honest  ;)

But I do concur, you need to be careful about how much more you will carry, and how you will decide what to carry. The latter is a fun problem to have though  :D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:28:47 AM »
Is the Pentax 645z at $8000 a realistic comparison to a $3600 DSLR?

Of course not, but if you're already leaning toward buying a 645Z, but the 5Ds ends up offering similar performance (which I doubt) for a fraction of the cost, then it is absolutely a valid comparison. Plus, the feature set (AF, FPS, weather sealing, peerless high ISO, flippy screen, outstanding shutter dampening) of the 645Z allow using it in settings and situations where MF previously wasn't even an option, which makes the comparison even more valid. As far as lenses go, you'd be shocked how reasonably priced the legacy Pentax MF glass sells for on ebay.  That said, there are probably very few people what will cross-shop these two bodies. I'm just weird like that :)

Not weird - you can justify spending 10K on a system rather than 4K for a body. Lucky you!!!

When I looked at the Pentax, as expected, landscape & studio lenses well supported. But would I be correct in stating if you have the super-teles, there's nothing in this space, so I would have to maintain a 2 vendor strategy?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:25:51 AM »
Is the Pentax 645z at $8000 a realistic comparison to a $3600 DSLR? Budget wise they are light years apart and while it may be one or the other for a small handful of folks, it's not where most potential buyers for this are. Oh, and that's before any glass.  I'd love to get a 645z INSTEAD OF a new FF body.... but it's not reality.  My $8000 purchase is earmarked for the 1DX2 anyway  ;D

+1

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:25:25 AM »
I'm interested in the 5Ds. But all I want is a significant improved tonal range, DR and low ISO performance. Ideally it should be equal or even better than the Pentax 645Z. I'll also wait for the new Sony A7R II before deciding which new camera to buy.

But if you have Canon lenses, then you're comparing a 4K body to a >10K system surely ? Of course this is why manufacturers want to make you sticky to their range...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:04:28 AM »
You can count me in.  I've given a lot of thought to this camera and if it is as advertised I see mostly upside to it. 

My passion is nature photography, both wildlife and landscapes.   Much of the wildlife photography that I do is on a small scale.  Here, in southern Arizona, there are boundless opportunities for about 9 months out of the year to photograph insects, reptiles, and other small creatures.  From about March through November I do a lot of exploring with a 180 Macro lens.

It seems to me that the big pixel sensor will allow me to capture closeups in extraordinary detail, beyond anything I've been able to obtain up 'til now.  That's a huge selling point.  The camera also will be a superb landscape camera, I think.

Now, as to birds in flight.  Well, there I see pluses and minuses.  On the plus side I should be able to do major cropping and still get lots of detail.  I would think that the issue of noise, particularly background noise, should be pretty much taken care of.  I'd like to see a faster burst rate.  By modern standards 5 fps is slow, very slow, for wildlife photography.  But, heck, the 5Diii that I presently use gets me 6, so I think I can live with it.

So, I'm going to be among the first to order the new camera.  I'm looking forward to it!

And we're looking forward to your feedback on when you get to use it in the real-world as it will help our decision as well  :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:01:46 AM »
I'm asking because i've been discussing this with my friends, and none of them are interested in the new line of 5D's... perhaps i'm just hanging around a skewed audience, so just curious...  how many people are considering it?

Um, doesn't this depend on the price, at least an itsy bitsy tiny bit? Sure there are rich folk who buy anything premium and add the 5dsr to their 1dx collection, and pros waiting for this before jumping ship to Sonikon. But for the rest of us, 50mp is probably nice to have, but hardly essential and you have to decide if buying a new/better lens isn't the smarter choice.

Well it depends if you already have all the lenses you need, lol.

Few are going to buy this until they see the details about the sensor I would expect. Anyone who is happy with the quality from the 7D II (and I've not had personal experience either way), could reasonably expect the 5Ds to be at least the same.

Everyone else will see what Sony announces as this will also indicate what Nikon will launch, and then compare to the Canon.

I'm very interested, but the devil is in the detail....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed
« on: February 05, 2015, 05:56:33 AM »
My definition: a 1DX can only be carried by a PRO all day long....

I'd be willing to bet 1000 quatloos that there are more true amateurs than pros who carry their 1DX all day long.

+1

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EOS Bodies / Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed
« on: February 05, 2015, 05:55:54 AM »
You have to do some pretty bad/stupid/brainfade/very-rare-unexpcted things to break eve the more bodies.

The pricing may be high compared to Nikon but given how long it has been between the D800 high MP body to this, I think it will "work" in that the people who would buy this camera are those who have been waiting all this while for the Canon high MP body; the ones willing to pay more to stay in the Canon system. As in most (obviously not "all") people who would choose the lower priced D810 and 14-24 already did so ages ago, probably :P

I think he's talking durability vs things breaking. The Pro range have a longer shutter life for instance. If you pay 3-4K for a body, thus placing it firmly in the higher end of dSLR products, should it not have a shelf-life to match?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed
« on: February 04, 2015, 04:10:54 PM »
Why the hell are Euro prices the same as US-Dollar prices, while the exchange rate is far off parity?
This policy really makes me sick.
Are Europeans just willing to pay more, or how come that producers get away with a 1:1 rate??

Bet you that the brits pay more than the rest of Europe  >:(

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Hi xps.
I would think that they are obliged to replace with one in at least as good condition and with a similar shutter count to yours, if it is a refurb it should have been thoroughly inspected and tested. If it was me I would go with the refurb, if shutter count really worries you try to add the proviso they find one within a couple of thousand clicks of yours.
Also, is the refurb done by them or Canon Japan? If by Canon Japan, based on the German centres record with your camera you would probably be better off!
Possibly you would be better off even if the refurb was done in the German centre as it probably won't have had as much interference as yours would after repair.
Also it seems they are making it pretty clear that is the way you are going without a big fight, and their offer would probably be considered more than reasonable (apparently the most expensive word in law ;D) by a court or impartial adjudicator.
I agree it is a tough call if you treasure your equipment as I do, but the non sentimental reasoning is easy from the outside!

Cheers, Graham.

I got an phone call some minutes ago. After writing an letter to Canon, a service employee called me.
The would exchange the 6D, as it is not worth repairing it. I will get an refurbished one. But he can not say, how old and how "used" the 6D is.

What is your opinion? Should i take the refurbished, or rely on getting mine repaired?
 The time of warranty for my 6D expires in June, the warranty of the refurbished one in June too.

Concur it needs to be comparable "wear & tear" to yours, incl. shutter count. You should also add the proviso that if you find any fault within a fortnight, then they need to repair the original so you have the opportunity to thoroughly test it.

I thought, but have not checked, that Canon UK refurbs on Ebay have a years' warranty. I appreciate they are matching their refurb to yours, but I would check to see what Canon in your country do and perhaps politely ask (if there is a difference) why they are not providing the same.

You can also check if there are any refurbs being offered - as in, are you given any choice on which 6D or are they chosing? If it is a refurb, ask them is it being listed somewhere for sale (if not, again politely, why not?)

Did you have any calibration done with lenses? I have my bigger lenses done by Canon, so you would expect them to provide a calibration for the new body.

If you go this route, thoroughly check everything - use a sensor loupe to check for tiny scratches, make sure you drive the shutter mechanism as fast as it can go to ensure it works under "stress", check all connections & slot (insert, remove, repeat), test all camera modes / functions, even if you dont normally use them and of course do some real world tests with all your lenses ideally in different conditions (cold, warm, daylight, dark). To do this properly will take a few hours of your time, but it will give you some comfort.

Finally, ask them for their own test sheet to show what they've tested, and where possible repeat their tests as well.

Good luck and sorry for your woes... :( :( :(

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