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EOS Bodies / Re: mhm... open letter to canon?

« on: September 27, 2012, 08:37:44 PM »

with all the complains about canons 6D autofocus why is no website, that cares about canon in one way or the other, writing an open letter to canon... demanding a statement?

i mean.... dpreview wrote it´s a rather dissapointing camera and i have yet to read a preview that is not puzzled by the low-tech AF.

if we complain here in a forum .. canon cares a sh*t.

but if a popular and frequented website writes something and is not afraid to tell the truth... maybe canon will take notice and feel obligated to react?

or maybe it´s to late here and im just bored and tired.....

The 6D is supposed to excel at low-light autofocus.  If you don't need that, then it probably wasn't built for you but rather for users who need that.  If you have different needs for AF, Canon offers the 5D3 and 1DX.  If none of those meet your needs, there are Nikon and Sony and others.  Why complain that Canon isn't making the exact camera you want at the price you want at the time that you want it?  No manufacturer can satisfy everyone.  If Canon builds the exact camera that you want, then other potential buyers can rightfully "demand a statement" as to why Canon didn't build the camera that they wanted at the price that they wanted at the time that they wanted it.  There would be no end to such statements.  Besides, who has tested the 6D's AF and found it lacking?  People are complaining before they can even try the camera.

You can't be serious?!
"Excel at Low Light performance"?
You actually believe that marketing bull***t?
Have you read what else Canon has to say about the 6D on their website?
They actually say stuff like, "with continuous shooting up to 4.5fps, you are ready to capture fast action".
That line was actually taken from their description:
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_6d
Unless "fast action" is a Seniors' Walk-a-Thon, the 6D is not ready to capture jack.

My point is the talk about "excelling at Low Light performance" is most likely equally fabricated marketing hype.

And as far as the guy complaining about it, he is well within his right to do so if he is to plunck down his money for one. It always amazes me how people run to Canon's (or any other major company's) rescue when others complain about their subpar efforts. The guy has every right to complain about the 6D because in this day and age, it is a crap effort from a company that should know better. And as long as people just sit their and say nothing, Canon will continue to put out subpar equipment at overflated prices backed overhyped marketing. Every Canon camera put out this year was good but could have been a hell of a lot better for what they are charging. But the 6D is just plain crap. Period.

Wow ... what an ultra-cynical point of view!  You haven't even tried the camera and you're calling it "crap" and worse.  Canon has released an ultra-low-light autofocus spec for the 6D and there is no reason to disbelieve it.  Why would you disbelieve it -- other than having an ultra-cynical point of view?

And why don't you wait to try it before slamming the camera and the company that makes it?  Oh yes, ... that would require just an ounce of fairness, which you can't seem to muster.

Of course, the 6D isn't going to please everybody.  No camera can.  If multi-cross-type autofocus is someone's priority, Canon offers it!  You just have to pay for it.  They're not obligated to put every feature they make in every camera they make.

Why do people feel entitled to the exact camera that they personally envision at the price that they want to pay?  The fact that a camera does not meet your personal photographic needs at this moment does not mean it is "sub-par".  Can you just imagine that it might be very well designed to meet someone else's photographic priorities, perhaps someone with a different photographic style or different subject matter?  And if another company offers you the camera you need, then by all means buy it!

Talk about cynical, I wasn't slamming the camera, I was slamming the false advertising of it. When a company writes ready for high speed capture when referring to 4.5fps it gives me good reason to believe the rest of what they say about it is equally misleading. Why don't you try not being such a fanboy and having a open mind that Canon screws over it's customers and people like you only make it worse because you defend them despite of it. You're not helping Canon or yourself.

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EOS Bodies / Re: mhm... open letter to canon?

« on: September 25, 2012, 11:53:51 PM »

with all the complains about canons 6D autofocus why is no website, that cares about canon in one way or the other, writing an open letter to canon... demanding a statement?

i mean.... dpreview wrote it´s a rather dissapointing camera and i have yet to read a preview that is not puzzled by the low-tech AF.

if we complain here in a forum .. canon cares a sh*t.

but if a popular and frequented website writes something and is not afraid to tell the truth... maybe canon will take notice and feel obligated to react?

or maybe it´s to late here and im just bored and tired.....

The 6D is supposed to excel at low-light autofocus.  If you don't need that, then it probably wasn't built for you but rather for users who need that.  If you have different needs for AF, Canon offers the 5D3 and 1DX.  If none of those meet your needs, there are Nikon and Sony and others.  Why complain that Canon isn't making the exact camera you want at the price you want at the time that you want it?  No manufacturer can satisfy everyone.  If Canon builds the exact camera that you want, then other potential buyers can rightfully "demand a statement" as to why Canon didn't build the camera that they wanted at the price that they wanted at the time that they wanted it.  There would be no end to such statements.  Besides, who has tested the 6D's AF and found it lacking?  People are complaining before they can even try the camera.

You can't be serious?!
"Excel at Low Light performance"?
You actually believe that marketing bull***t?
Have you read what else Canon has to say about the 6D on their website?
They actually say stuff like, "with continuous shooting up to 4.5fps, you are ready to capture fast action".
That line was actually taken from their description:
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_6d
Unless "fast action" is a Seniors' Walk-a-Thon, the 6D is not ready to capture jack.


My point is the talk about "excelling at Low Light performance" is most likely equally fabricated marketing hype.


And as far as the guy complaining about it, he is well within his right to do so if he is to plunck down his money for one. It always amazes me how people run to Canon's (or any other major company's) rescue when others complain about their subpar efforts. The guy has every right to complain about the 6D because in this day and age, it is a crap effort from a company that should know better. And as long as people just sit their and say nothing, Canon will continue to put out subpar equipment at overflated prices backed overhyped marketing. Every Canon camera put out this year was good but could have been a hell of a lot better for what they are charging. But the 6D is just plain crap. Period.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Big Megapixel Talk [CR1]

« on: September 25, 2012, 11:25:27 PM »

This would be an awesome studio camera if true, but I bet Canon screws it up again by overpricing it. I own both the 5D Mark III and the 1DX as well as several 600EX-RTs and I'm not happy about the prices I paid for any of it. I feel completely violated. Canon have become nothing short of rip-off artists. They need to get back to making great equipment at reasonable prices and real technology innovation. This camera could be a huge step in the right direction if they don't let the marketing team frak up the pricing, because at $10,000 I rather have a Leica S2.


Let's hope Canon learns their lesson from the soon to be 1D-C flop. $15,000 for a camera with features they could have and should have included in the 1DX?!!! Bahahaha. Yeah right Canon. Good luck with that. There are professional video cameras at that price point without all of the DSLR video drawbacks that shoot much more beautiful 4K video. Why would anyone in their right mind pay $15,000 for something that will give them headaches and force workarounds when there are much better options on the market dedicated to that format? Stupidity and arrogance at it's best from the people at Canon.

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Lenses / Re: Photozone's review of the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II is up

« on: September 25, 2012, 02:04:25 PM »

I struggle to believe there is that much sample variation.  My hunch tells me that maybe one of the reviewers may be off the mark with their testing.   I think I will reserve judgement until the next set of reviews come through.

 
Here is a video from a few years back about Canon manufacturing a 500mm f/4 lens.  You get a idea about whats involved.  THere are three parts, this links to part 1.  You can easily find the others.
 
Canon Lens Production 1

Looking at this video, there seems to be a lot of instances where impurities can creep into the manufacturing process. I don't know if you posted this video in support of Canon or against them. My take is that I wasn't very impressed. The factory doesn't look very purified or dust free.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Describe the 6D in one word...

« on: September 18, 2012, 09:39:04 PM »

Below is from 6D preview summary page from dpreview  :

Overall, though, it's difficult to shake the feeling that the EOS 6D simply lacks the 'wow' factor of its main rival. Whereas Nikon seems to have taken the approach of taking away as little as possible from D800 when creating the D600, Canon appears almost to have gone the other way, removing as much as it thinks it can get away with at the price. The result is the kind of conservative, slightly unimaginative design that's become the company's hallmark. It's still bound to be a very good camera, of course; just perhaps not quite as good as it could be.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/6

Couldn't have said it better. Canon of late seems to be trying to get away with giving us as little as possible. I really don't understand it. If I were in charge of Canon I would be trying to tack on as much as possible to keep my customers happy within all price ranges.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Describe the 6D in one word...

« on: September 17, 2012, 12:41:38 AM »

As an owner of the 5D Mark III and 1DX, this camera with it's shiny new built-in Wifi and GPS just feels like a giant kick it the balls. At the very least Canon should have built-in the wireless radio transmitter for firing the new flashes into the 1D series bodies. That would have proven that they had their customers needs in mind over lining their pockets with huge profit margins. Yes they would have made less profit than selling it as a separate unit but still won out in mind share (which leads to larger profits in the long run). As long as we just keep forking over our hard earned money without complaint, Canon has no reason to ever consider changing. It's time we get pissed off over their ridiculous corporate greed of late and voice it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs

« on: September 17, 2012, 12:40:04 AM »

As an owner of the 5D Mark III and 1DX, this camera with it's shiny new built-in Wifi and GPS just feels like a giant kick it the balls. At the very least Canon should have built-in the wireless radio transmitter for firing the new flashes into the 1D series bodies. That would have proven that they had their customers needs in mind over lining their pockets with huge profit margins. Yes they would have made less profit than selling it as a separate unit but still won out in mind share (which leads to larger profits in the long run). As long as we just keep forking over our hard earned money without complaint, Canon has no reason to ever consider changing. It's time we get pissed off over their ridiculous corporate greed of late and voice it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs

« on: September 17, 2012, 12:26:53 AM »

I hate the way Canon tries to strategically plan how much NOT to give it's customers in order to milk us for money and get us suckling on their tit (basically locked into their system optically). By contrast, Nikon tries to give its customers as much as possible for as little money as possible. Then to add insult to injury, Canon overcharges us outrageously for any significant improvement (5D Mark III, 1DX, 24-70 Mk II). Yes all of these are better than the gear they replace, there's no argument there, but are they so far advanced to warrant the prices that Canon has charged us for them? I think not.


I'm sure the 6D will sell well but at the prices that we've paid for the 5D Mark III and 1DX shouldn't they have also included built-in Wifi and GPS? With this camera, Canon has proven that it had the technology to fit it within either form factor and this camera is just an insult to me as an owner of both bodies.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: nikon 3200 beats all other canon cameras dxo mark test!

« on: September 08, 2012, 06:39:10 PM »

score an 82 and beats 5d mkiii out of the top ten. May the fun begin.

Where are the Nikon shooters in hollywood?

too busy reading dxo charts maybe?   

Maybe they're out looking for interesting new things to shoot, not painted old witches from the 60's.

Anyway - Canon's smartest move EVER, all categories, regardless of camera quality, sensors, whatever, was to make their most expensive lenses white. More important than any test score or review anywhere, ever.

So many people assume those lenses must be better than Nikon's just because they look the way they do. And the people holding them feel cool.
Brilliant marketing? Yep. Your photo says it all, doesn't it.

Actually I hate the way Canon "white" lenses stand out. Terrible for when you're trying to shoot on the streets inconspicuously. But as far as the quality and selection, (your sarcastic marketing theory aside), yep far better than Nikon's. That's why most cameras in the media section of any large event anywhere in the world are Canons. I shot one of the largest fashion events in Japan earlier this year "Tokyo Girl's Collection", I was halfway expecting to see a slew of Nikon shooters with all the hype around their new bodies, but nope, 90% of the shooters were using Canon. It's also why I shoot Canon. Sensors and bodies will come and go, but great glass could last you a career.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: nikon 3200 beats all other canon cameras dxo mark test!

« on: September 08, 2012, 06:26:29 PM »

81 82 whatever . i thought it said 82. dxo also stated the d3200 had a digic 3 processor. then corrected the review. love the replys they made my day. http://youtu.be/paJqHPHLExo

This video says it all. People nowadays are lusting after camera technology they probably don't need just for silly bragging rights. It's not even about the images anymore. I've said it time and again, a lot of my favorite photogs still shoot with older Canons and produce outstanding pictures, Laretta Houston (Canon 30D), Zack Arias (Canon 5D Mark II) My mentor Toshiya Suzuki (Canon 5D Mark II) and so on. Most people getting into photography these days tend to develop GAS early in their careers (Gear Acquisition Syndrome).

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Carl Zeiss ZE Apo Sonnar T* 135 f/2 Announced

« on: September 08, 2012, 05:49:03 PM »

I rent Zeiss lenses for video work but for stills, I prefer Canon lenses with AF. I have admit though, the beautiful bokeh produced by Zeiss lenses can't be matched by Canon. There's just an indescribable creaminess to them.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Has Made its Way To Retailers

« on: September 02, 2012, 01:23:16 PM »

No word on this lens at all in Japan. Been to every retailer looking for a hint on when it might arrive here. Funny how Canon is a Japanese company and yet Japan is sometimes the last to receive their products.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon EOS-1D X in Stock at B&H Photo

« on: August 30, 2012, 02:16:28 AM »

Just picked up mine today! Excited to start using this camera in a real (professional) shooting environment.

Congratulations. 

Just out of curiousity, why do you equate "real" to "professional"?

I didn't mean real = professional.
I just meant not charts and graphs. I want to see how this camera performs for my particular work. Specs mean very little to me if I don't see the results or benefits of that technology in my images.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon EOS-1D X in Stock at B&H Photo

« on: August 29, 2012, 03:09:31 PM »

Just picked up mine today! Excited to start using this camera in a real (professional) shooting environment.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]

« on: August 22, 2012, 08:37:45 PM »

There is a real hole in the Canon lineup at $2,000 advanced amateur level .  The 60D and the 7D are both rounding 3 years and are showing their age.  This thing looks like a $5,000 camera.  There are plenty of $5,000 cameras I can't afford already.   Maybe this is a response the the Nikon 800E but it certainly doesn't fill the advanced amateur hole in the Canon line up.  I can't afford this camera, can you?

The D800 is NOT a Medium Format killer, it is merely an imitation and possibly an introduction, but Medium Format cameras have much larger sensors than 35mm and perform on a level not capable even by the D800. The only camera that comes close is the Leica S2.