« on: June 14, 2012, 01:59:32 PM »
Entry Level FF by Q1 2013?
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The point made about the 50D not having video was the big reason I think it was not a major hit on the market, and because the AF was not upgraded. To say the 5DmkIII will have similar market irrelevancy is a hard comparison to make, the only thing I can see holding the 5DmkIII back from record breaking sales figures would be the price. That is the one thing Canon can address, if they feel the need to. I'm sure the price will come down some eventually, the question is how much? The answer will be how many does Canon want to sell?
I think the other aspect is what does Canon have up their sleeve? A ~$2k full frame camera may be on the horizon, and that camera would probably be a huge seller. I think Canon hurt some of their potential 1Dx sales by making the 5DmkIII so good (and by getting it to market so quickly), so they may decide to keep the price up on the 5DmkIII to offset some of the lost sales on the 1Dx. The new, lower cost full-frame will probably be the one they look to become the mass seller, pricing it more competitively to get record breaking sales figures. Does that mean the 5DmkIII will be irrelevant? I doubt it because it has all the top features, the less expensive model is sure to lack some of those, making it cheaper to produce and less desirable to those who require all the features. I would suspect the cheaper camera to not have the best weather sealing, a single card, maybe the AF won't be quite as good...sounds a lot like the 5DmkII, don't you think? Maybe it will have lower MP than the 5DmkIII, but the same AF. Whatever it is, I think you can count on the 5DmkIII still having better specs and still having a good place in the lineup, Canon has had a long time to bring that camera to market, and I'm sure they thought about what they would do to make sure it had adequate shelf live on the market.
I think it makes sense to move the 70D up to the level of 7D since the xxD series has been bumped up, with the xxxD series taking its place. I guess a 7D Mark II could become an entry level FF but as you said, it doesn't make much sense in a marketing perspective. With a D600 out, Canon will most definitely need a entry FF which is better than 5D2 (with a decent AF). Maybe "EOS 7D F".
Nikon just threw down the gauntlet on canon. It's almost a 5Dmk3 for half the price. They'd better drop the mk3 prices to a reasonable level or make a new entry level camera. Possibly a 5d mark 2 N version with improved AF.
Let's just call it October and make it an even year since the original announcement of the camera. One full trip around the sun.
Though I still look forward to the 1DX, I am interested to see if any of the cameras announced between now and when it actually ships end up looking better to me because an entire development cycle for most companies will have gone by.
A 5d2 killer definitely - unless its priced @2600+ and the 5d2 drops to 1899.
So, what will a 7DII be like? Are these hints of a probable change towards FF or aps-h?
7DII would never be FF. wildlife & sports photographers would go crazy
Nikon is rumored to be bring out a low end FF Body. It will not be pro level, but have the features of their beginner models.
The Canon equivalent would be a FF Rebel, but even that would be better than the nikon model which, without a AF motor drive, can only use the newer Nikon lenses. So if you have good but older Nikon Glass, it would be no autofocus. This really runs up the price to the buyer.