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Lenses / Re: Canon 14-24 2.8 - With our powers combined....
« on: September 01, 2012, 04:37:48 AM »
I'd be in for a 12-24 f2.8. about years down the road as a poster in an earlier thread guessed. But as an amateur I cannot justify its price tag, I guess. So the 16-35 2.8 plus the ND 10 filter seems quite the better move then. Or a 17-40 as I mostly do nightsky and Landscape from a tripod.

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Lenses / Likeliness of a Canon EF 14-24 2.8 anytime soon?
« on: August 26, 2012, 04:08:26 PM »
Hi, how likely is it, that Canon would release a 14-24 2.8 in the near future? Did Canon ever mention anything?
Cheers, Peter

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EOS Bodies / Great nightphotography comparisons: 1Dx, 1DIV, 5D3, 5D2
« on: August 25, 2012, 10:03:21 AM »
Hope you like it. I am privileged to pick up my 5D3 on Monday afternoon.
So seeing this, I am fascinated already...Can't wait to try it out 8)

http://www.uncagethesoul.com/night-photography/best-canon-night-camera/

Hope it wasn't posted before. No intention to post obsolete topics.

Cheers, Pedro

P.S. I hope the learning curve, as I am upgrading from a 30D, won't be too steep.

Here's my
http://www.flickr.com/photos/guatitamasluz/

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1DX Worth the Money?
« on: August 15, 2012, 12:24:41 PM »
@viggo: Highly appreciated! Thanks a lot! I know the 5D3 does 102K. So craziness within me to go for insane ISOs exists...LOL. So I will have to say to myself: Well, look man, the 5D3 does 51k like the 1Dx does the 102k.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1DX Worth the Money?
« on: August 15, 2012, 10:44:06 AM »
The difference between the 1d X and 5d 3 is much bigger than people realize from reading about them. The AF and the 12 fps gets you so many fantsatic images you couldn't have gotten without it. The exposure is so dead on it's ridicolous!! I hardly adjust anything in Lr.

The tracking is awesomely superior. To me it's at least a stop better noise-wise, and the image can be pushed more without adding the crazy noise. The lower iso's are the cleanest I have seen, and also better than the 5d3.

Swap it vertically and have the exact same layout of buttons and the same grip is not to be underestimated.

And all of the small but very important custom functions like limiting your shutterspeed range in Av mode etc makes it way worth it to me.

The 5d3 isn't the same with AF and tracking, it isn't the same IQ wise as the 1d X has much less noise and have WAY sharper files.

It is quite obvious. Things have to be like that. Otherwise you'd be wrong to spend such an awful lot of money on a PJ workhorse. I am glad for every pro who is equipped with excellent gear via the 1DX. As an amateur who hardly commercialzes his photography but who appreciates some better high ISO and IQ, I will go 5D3 within the next months from my current 30D which I am shooting since five years. It always delivered decent results even at ISO 3200 b/w, exposed to the right. So Robert Frank high ISO shots, here I come ;-) I don't worry about decent noise nor blown highlights by pushing it to the limit since I've seen his photography. Sometimes even slight motion blur adds to a b/w photograph.
@Viggo: Did you take any pictures at "insane ISOs" as high as 102 and/or 204 k...? Would be intresting if you had some shots to share. Keep the good work up! Cheers, Peter

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EOS Bodies / Re: Calm before the storm
« on: August 15, 2012, 06:04:22 AM »
He is  playing with our feelings!  :P

There is medicine against it: To go out and take pictures  8)

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I do appreciate this thread very much, as I am going FF 5D3 within the next few month. Will rent a body and test it, to get accquainted a bit with it.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 for sports/action?
« on: August 14, 2012, 04:25:16 AM »
While shooting the 30D center point only at quite low light and ISO 1600 and 3200 I am really looking forward now to shoot the same events even at the same ISOs or higher if necessary! It is backstage scenes I mostly do. A Brass Band getting ready for their performance or other scenes.
Pedro,
Is this the type of shot you're talking about?


ISO 6400
f/2.8
1/500
200mm
@swampler: yes, that's quite like that. Encouraging! Thx for sharing. Cheers.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 for sports/action?
« on: August 13, 2012, 06:46:27 PM »
For action shooting look to a pre-owned 1 Series. I have a 5D3 and when I first got it, out of curiosity I ran it as a second body at a track & field athletics job. It's IQ and AF were 100% up to the job but the slow frame rate and small buffer reveal the 5D3's strengths & weaknesses. In short, it's not an action shooting camera.

-PW
I own a sports photography company and have used the 1dm3 since it came out in 2007. It performs excellently and for sure the 1dm4 is top of the line. However, given that i got the 5dm3 for my wedding photography company I decided to test it out. I shoot marathons and triathlons and a triathlon has 3 dif types of sports. The most challenging by far being the bike portion since they move very quickly and you need to focus and recompose at an absurd rate of speed. When i tested the 5dm3 early this year I found it was almost every other oof. While i was pleased with the in-focus ones it wasn't enough so given the multiple AF modes i decided to test them out, which is risky when you are doing it with your business...I recently shot a triathlon and with the bike portion instead of shooting single point like i have found is the best for most scenarios and being sports it is your main focus point position, i shot 8 focus point cluster first and found the cluster was the right size but it didn't work well enough so i shot 4pt. I found 4pt expansion to work very well for the bike portion! Using case 3 in the af menu I also set the accel/decel to zero so it wasn't hyper sensitive because the af could become to twitchy changing from the subject i am trying to track. Other than that the Case 1 works for run and swim exit portion fine however i may try a whole Tri with the Case 3 settings. Yes i know it makes sense that the bike case would work best for it since it has the bike icon but i figured Case 1 would be enough. Turns out case 3 jacks up the focus speed quite a bit not making it the slower cousin to the 1dx so much anymore.
I havent even shot an event with my 1dm3 other than for other companies sports events i love the 5d3 that much! Post processing on the 5dm3 is nill. It renders color so well and accurate compared to my 1dm3 which is pretty good too but no where close to the 5dm3. I continue to experiment and if i am not satisfied with the results i am more and more convinced it is because i havent learned how to use the system to its potential.
I so want another 5dm3! Considering selling my 5d, 1dm3 and 24-70L...
Hi, this is great news to me. I was at a local camera shop today and held a 5D3 for the first time...Later this year the shop will provide me a body to rent for a weekend to test it out at my low light event type photography...I am an amateur hardly commercializing my material...But I like the real low light situations for b/w. So I will test it to get accquainted with it and then a few days after I will purchase the body. The renting fee will be discounted from the price. While shooting the 30D center point only at quite low light and ISO 1600 and 3200 I am really looking forward now to shoot the same events even at the same ISOs or higher if necessary! It is backstage scenes I mostly do. A Brass Band getting ready for their performance or other scenes. So thanks a lot for your input on AF and your excitement about my new camera I soon will purchase. I have 70-200 2.8 L, a 85 1.8, a 50 1.4 and a cheapo 28 2.8. As someone once guessed, that 5D3s ISO 3200 is about 30Ds ISO 800 it's gonna be a significant change leading to new low light opportunities. Cheers, Pedro

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Landscape / Re: Perseid Meteor Shower. Share your photos.
« on: August 13, 2012, 02:42:42 AM »
Great picture under adventerous conditions! At which ISOs do you shoot nightsky regularly? While shooting with my 30D yesterday night at Iso 800 I just made up my mind to go definitely for a 5D3. Moonless or small crescent moon nightsky shots don't produce very usable material at these Isos. Especially if you aim for the Milky Way. As I really like to take these pictures, I kinda feel the limits gearwise. Which are the highest ISO you shoot at? 3200, 6400 or higher? Thanks for any hints. Cheers, Peter

Thanks, Pedro, Victor and Brett!

This was really the first time I had attempted to do "frozen" stars with my 5D3.  I've done them on my 7D with an f/2.8 Tokina lens at lower ISOs with some decent results.  But the fastest lens I have for my 5D3 is my 17-40 f/4L.  Being limited to f4 on the widest end, I really had to push the ISO up to 6400 with a 30 second exposure.  30 seconds is about as long as you can go at 17mm before you start seeing star movement.  Even on this image, at original size, you can see the stars slightly blurred from the earth's rotation.  Even with this reduced size version, you can still see some movement blur on the stars in the far right of the frame.

So to answer your question, the ISO 6400 leaves a little to be desired from a noise/potential-print standpoint, although it's workable with heavy NR in post.  If I were to do this again I'd rent an f/2.8 lens, so I could drop a few stops in ISO and get a cleaner result.

On a side note, I started doing astrophotography on my 40D.  As long as you stay below ISO 400, and don't mind star trails, you'll get results plenty clean enough for printing from your 30D!

@justsomedude: Thank you for answering. You are right, I really get fine results on my 30D below ISO 400 shooting star trails. At full moon the same ISOs work for frozen stars as well. Going 5D3 I will use my 28 / 2.8 then until I have a WA zoom lens. Althoug the field of view will remain a bit narrowed due to the optics. Maybe ISO 3200 is a workable ISO. Combined with the 2.8 I get the extra stop in comparison to the 3.5 crop lens. Hoping for clear nights in late fall to check that out. Milky Way is always at "its best" then. Cheers and thanks again.

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Landscape / Re: Perseid Meteor Shower. Share your photos.
« on: August 12, 2012, 03:55:05 PM »
Here's my image and my story....

When I heard about the Perseid meteor shower I decided early on that I wanted to try and shoot it from the summit of Mount Evans in Arapaho National Forest.  I mainly do long exposure star trails, but I thought I'd try some shorter-exposure high-ISO work with the 5D3 to get "frozen" stars with a meteor streak in the the shot.  That requires a lot of luck, I know, but I set out none the less with this goal in mind. 

I spent most of yesterday getting my gear ready, charging batteries, testing speedlights, getting the color gels laid out that I would use, etc.  I even got my cold weather gear out since I knew the summit would be chilly.

The clear sky charts were questionable, but a clearing was indicated between 1am - 4am, so I thought I'd go for it.  I set out early, around 9:30pm, and I'm glad I did.  The base of Mount Evans is about an hour from Denver, and then there's the summit road to drive.  I forgot how dicey that summit road is, and in the middle of the night, the sheer drop-offs make for quite a white knuckle drive.  I think the 14-mile summit access road took me an hour alone.

When I got to the top, I immediately started setting up my gear and taking some shots.  The sky was clear, and I didn't want to waste it.  Good thing too - because within about 40 minutes heavy clouds rolled in and the rest of the night was a bust.  The shot below is my favorite of about only 12 photos I took last night.  This is by far the fewest number of photos I've ever taken given the amount of preparation and driving I did. 

Even with only one good photo to show for my efforts, it was well worth it....



Great picture under adventerous conditions! At which ISOs do you shoot nightsky regularly? While shooting with my 30D yesterday night at Iso 800 I just made up my mind to go definitely for a 5D3. Moonless or small crescent moon nightsky shots don't produce very usable material at these Isos. Especially if you aim for the Milky Way. As I really like to take these pictures, I kinda feel the limits gearwise. Which are the highest ISO you shoot at? 3200, 6400 or higher? Thanks for any hints. Cheers, Peter

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After Perseides Shower yesterday night I definitely decided to go 5D3 within the next weeks. I applied 600 rule with my current 30D and a Canon 10-22, which yields exposure values between 25 to 30 seconds. Shot at ISO 800 as highest. Small crescent moon. What is your highest ISO setting while taking nightsky photographs of e.g. Milky Way? ISO 3200 or even higher? Thanks for any help!
Cheers, Peter.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D in October? [CR1]
« on: August 10, 2012, 02:11:55 PM »
Anyone who is concerned about autofocus performance should read this article by Roger Cicala:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/08/autofocus-reality-part-3b-canon-cameras

It tells us why the autofocus performance of the 5D III and the 1DX are so superior to previous models.   It's not just more cross-type sensors.  Briefly, Canon has finally gone to a true closed loop system.  Previous autofocus systems are now obsolete for serious work, in my opinion, and it's about time!  I am so sick of messing around with inaccurate and unpredictable autofocus.  Having to send lenses and bodies in for focus calibration all the time is ridiculous.

Who knows which system the rumored 6D will get?  I know I will wait to find out before I make my next FF purchase.  I don't need many of the features the 5D III offers, but I must have that autofocus system!  LOL

Would be nice to add 5Diii AF to it. Doubt it, though. So: 5D3 then...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D in October? [CR1]
« on: August 10, 2012, 08:36:04 AM »
+1 Ready to go 5D3. But no rush here as well. Chinese page sounds promising... 8) 7D-similarities would match with earlier rumors...

5D Mk III is too expensive for me (I can buy it but cant justify that cost). I guess we will see some info surface soon. My bet is body simmilar to 7D (metring, build, AF) with 22 or 18 mpx sensor.

Costwise in the same boat. I hardly commercialize my photography. What would be the max in shutter actuations? 100k? Hope they'd give it a 150k, especially if the price tag could be slightly higher as expected, according to Canon's pricing policy  these last months...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D in October? [CR1]
« on: August 10, 2012, 08:21:35 AM »
What do you think of something like this ? Ive found it on web.

IF it's a fake, I guess it's a very good one  8) Time will tell. But a 2.5k USD cam won't be a plastic body. 18 MP, iso 51k. But according to your gear list...did you "visualize" your dream? LOL...Cheers, Pedro.

I dunno if its fake. Ive just found it on some chinese page and tried to run it through Image Forensics - looks real but, sure, could be fake. And according to this pic, it looks 7D-like.

Yes, I want to upgrade to FF, but I can wait - no rush here  ;)
+1 Ready to go 5D3. But no rush here as well. Chinese page sounds promising... 8) 7D-similarities would match with earlier rumors...from NL:
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_6d.html
"Design closer to 7D than 5D3 (smaller and with flash)
7D style AF system (19 pt) and VF LCD
7D metering
Single Digic 5+
3.9 fps
3 inch LCD
51200 max ISO
sub - $2000 price point at introduction"


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