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These samples were taken with a pre-production unit, right? I guess Canon are aware of it and might have it fixed once the first batch hits the street, or yes a firmware update will do.

EOS Bodies / Re: What exactly is a stop improvement in ISO?
« on: March 03, 2012, 04:05:13 PM »
This is some of the reason I don't like the Dxo tests. As it states that the 5d2 is better at noise then athe mk4. Now, if you have tried these cameras you know it's completely wrong. On one hand...

Between 100-800 the 5d kills the mk4... But from 1600 and up the mk4 demolishes the 5d2. So seeing that the 5d shows noise at 1320 something and the mk4 is 1260 or whatever is just to take it way out of contex.....

Very valid question from the OP. And there is different answers...

I think Canon states two stops as being able to shoot at twice and four times the iso. And they claim the same noise at the highest setting being better than two stops down on the 5d2, which could easily be true.

Now take Lightroom in to the equation, Lr3 and the 5d2 vs the 5d3 with Lr4 gives you easily three stops, so "only for jpeg" two stops is only valid with the DPP software...

Yes I am drawing my own conclusions here, and claiming stuff, because it's friday and I'm enjoying a few beers, cheers everybody! Have a good one!

Hope you enjoyed your friday...;-)
How much time will it take to see RAW high iso photographs? Over here (Switzerland) release date is March 22 for retailers...Looking forward to samples...some more friday's down the line 8)

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII pre-order thread
« on: March 02, 2012, 04:16:41 PM »
I am currently shooting a 30D. After all the news today, also at DPR and Planet 5D I am really excited about. It is plenty of camera for my preferencies but yes I will drop the 3.5k for that beast, even if price doesn't go down a lot until about 15 month from now. Today  here in Switzerland, retail and online shops offered it for preorders at an equivalent to 4337,30 USD. But, the scheme might change a bit by overnext Christmas  As it is going to be at a little less than half way into its life cycle 8) Happy shooting to everyone preordered already!

isn't that a pre-production unit?

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D III high ISO samples
« on: March 02, 2012, 04:02:25 PM »
I just downloaded the high ISO images from DPR.  All the images were taken at 3EV, so they are real low light images.

On my screen, I could see the noise at ISO 102400, but the 8.5 X 11 prints were sharp and clean.  I then printed 3 more, 51200, 25,600, 12800, and they also suprised me.  I could show any of these prints to someone, and they would not suspect that they were high ISO unless they had a magnifier.

These were jpegs with no additional processing by me, I would expect RAW to be better.

I certainly plan to use the ISO 25600 freely whenever I absolutely need it in low light for a fast shutter speed.

Canon has done some real work on the blacks, I can move the black slider in LR4 all the way to the right without seeing any banding.

yes they look more then okay!


thanks for sharing!

EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price
« on: March 02, 2012, 02:18:08 AM »
Of course I would have been thrilled if the 5DIII was being released for $3000, or even $3200, but since I'll be upgrading from a 40D (that has served me well for the past four years) I feel that it'll be worth the full $3500.  If I had a MKII I might feel differently, but this sounds exactly like the FF DSLR I've been waiting for (which is why I just preordered it!).

So am I. The new cam is the one I was looking for. One year from now or maybe better fall 2013 I'll be upgrading from a 30D. As I am not a pro, and not even in wedding photography, time doesn't  matter, and if time is money, there's even a possibility to get it a lower price tag by then.

EOS Bodies / Re: Introducing the Canon 5D Mark III: jpeg samples
« on: March 02, 2012, 02:09:18 AM »
Samples are here

Laurent Clevy
there's too much NR on all high iso shots..

at least there's no visible banding (not even pushing the jpegs from lightroom).  :-X

the bride jpeg @3200 looks pretty nice online, but anyway I am currently shooting a 30D at ISO 3200 (H) So IQ wise for me this will be a BIG step up...I'm in for one. Maybe a year from now. If they manage one stop of high ISO improvement in RAW I still guess that is plenty enough for me. So looking forward to compare the 5D3s ISO 3200 with my current extended ISO 3200 then, about one year from now.  8)

EOS Bodies / 5D3: First high ISO samples
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:52:12 AM »
From canon.jp via dpr

All samples:

Happy Canon-Day everyone  8)

admin: do you mind to delete my post here? I just found out ISO samples link was posted among introducing the 5D3 thread. sorry for doubling that.

EOS Bodies / Re: Introducing the Canon 5D Mark III
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:07:19 AM »
great. well done, Craig. You got the 15 minutes of fame for a whole day! 8) man of the year.

I've just seen this. Price increases have been discussed back in 2010 already...
"Many people have commented that the price tag for the EOS 5D Mark III will be unusually high, but I strongly question that theory. Canon have, more often than not, priced their cameras at roughly the same price as the replacement model and often even less expensive."And his guess unfortunately was wrong...
"My guess is that where the 5D began the DSLR revolution for indie filmmakers, the 5D Mark III will take it further to levels that rock the very core of modern filmmaking in television and cinema."


As we are talking about price tags: what will be the on-line price in let's say 12 month from now?
As a comparison only: D800 price tag at retail shops: CHF 3398 vs CHF 2600 at online-shops.
Thx. You may indicate the situation in the U.S., because we are often quite close. The US$ often is taken for pricing in CHF.
Thank you!

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?
« on: March 01, 2012, 12:14:20 PM »
@awinphoto: what is your guess? as I do not own any ff 5D at the time? compared to the current 5D2 and my photography preferencies at very low light? I'm shooting people at ISO 3200 with a 50 f1.4 wide open and well exposed to the right on my current 30D using good light sources like street lanterns for example and print that b/w. Thanks. Sorry if that is an absolutely hypothetical question!

The rumored body only price tag?  8)

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Full Spec List?
« on: March 01, 2012, 12:00:03 PM »
I am looking between 1DX and 5D mark III.
So looking to see what are the differences between the two. The ones i can see are

10. ISO difference - If the native is 1 stop lower on 5D Mark III, that means most probably the usable ISO is ISO 1600 and can go to ISO 3200/6400 in tough situations. For me coming from 5D, this is atleast 2 stop increase already for Mark III. And for the dance concerts i do take it is sufficient. There is enough lighting on the stage for me to be happy with a 2 stop increase. So professionally i am good. Personally higher ISO will allow me to take photos of parties etc without the flash and capture more of the ambience. So 1DX has an advantage - tiny bit only.

Anything else that is different. Anything else i need to consider?

The 5D3 will not be 2 stops better than 5D in high ISO performance.
Perhaps 1 stop. Perhaps even 1.5 stop as would be extremely good and better than D3s. Certainly not 2 stop.

Well, if the 5D3 will be one stop better over 5D2 (or as you put "5D" do you mean the 5Dc?) then ISO 12800 will be equal to ISO 6400 which I guess would yield nice b/w photographs. Compared to my current 30D which I shoot as up to ISO 3200 (H) well exposed to the right.
I won't be in the first wave of buyers, but one year from tomorrow seems great. This will be a lot of camera for an amateur like me, let's say for the next five to six years for sure. I am completing my fifth year with the 30D  this April. The new 5D is the dream camera for me and I can't wait to test it with a fast lens 50/1.4 at ISO 51k in real low light with only a slightly iluminated face for the AF trying to lock on  8) rock'n'roll, gentlemen. enjoy the new day coming!

EOS Bodies / Re: canonrumors phototips live cast 1 March 2012
« on: February 29, 2012, 04:46:48 PM »
I can't promise a level of excitement like the C300 announcement, but at least there WILL be a 5D Mark III, so it will be better than Geraldo and the vault.

Official announcement here a bit later today.

Great news, looking forward to that.

EOS Bodies / Re: What will be announced on Feb 28?
« on: February 26, 2012, 01:19:59 PM »
Announcements will be on March 2, due to the Academy Awards taking all the news.

good point

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