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EOS Bodies / Re: Theoretical question
« on: September 18, 2011, 10:04:13 AM »
To buy a camera just because of the sensor is like buying a car just because of the engine.

Nobody would do that.

I'm guessing professional car drivers choose a car based on the engine.  I would find it a little shocking if a photographer DIDN'T think image quality rendered by the sensor was the most important thing in a body...  I certainly bought my cameras based on their sensors...

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New Entry Level Full Frame Camera? [CR1]
« on: September 17, 2011, 12:18:07 PM »
A lot of people here don't think that R&D for new cameras cost money....

If they were to come out with a budget FF camera, it would be a lot like what they did with the XXXXD series... recycle old sensors and add/ cut out some new features.

If there is an entry level FF camera, then the most cost effective way to produce it would be to use the 5DII sensor, and some AF system they already have... ie the current 5D one or 7D one....

They can then sell this at a lower market price without have to spend money on R&D while protecting the sales of a newer tech 5DIII.

It makes much more sense from a market standpoint to use the same sensor (7D, 60D, 600D) and vary the features because that reduces costs.

Along this line, I expect that the new 5DIII will have the same sensor as a 1DsIV. Either the 1DsIV will drop to like 6999 price point or the 5DIII will rise to 3499.

+1

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New Entry Level Full Frame Camera? [CR1]
« on: September 17, 2011, 09:44:27 AM »
That's great news, CRguy! Let it be real.
Here's my wishlist:
Digic V
clean ISO 6400
ISO 50- 51.200
18 MP
6 fps
better AF than 5Dii
US $ 2000
no video
or same as 5Dii
and I'll order it right away  8)
could be a real killer cam!

Unfortunately, your wish list is a little excessive.  For an entry level, why would they develop a whole new sensor, a whole new autofocus, and add more technology than the 5d ii has, then cut the cost?  To keep cost down, they'll simpy build a new body around existing technology.  I would expect to see a 5d mark ii with a highly limited feature set, including no top lcd.  They'll bring full frame to the masses, but it aint going to be pretty and certainly not have iso of 51200.  No video?  You seem to miss the constant reminder on here that including video costs canon nothing and cuts your costs in the long run because they sell more bodies.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New Entry Level Full Frame Camera? [CR1]
« on: September 17, 2011, 09:40:13 AM »
A entry full frame DSLR would not be a logical move and bad timing.

The 5DMKII has enough pixelcount, but for all else it is actually nothing more than an entry DSLR.
Feature wise the 5D MKII is a very 'old' camera in today's camera landscape except for its pixelcount as said.

Therefore this rumour sounds more like rubish and from someone who can't afford the 5D MKII.

Meaby after the 5D MKIII is released there is room for a small pixelcount full frame camera (which would then be the old 5D rebranded as 6D?) Although even that is not very likely to happen.....


Entry level?  Really?  Do you even use one?  In what ways, apart from autofocus, is the 5d mark ii an entry level dslr?  As for putting a 12mp sensor from the 5d into a new body, do you really think canon would market a camera with iso 3200?  They'd use the sensor from the 5d mark ii and stretch the technology.  Everyone who was going to buy a 5d ii has pretty much bought one.  Some will upgrade to a new higher end body, others will buy a second body on the lower end.  Still others would upgrade from the rebel, 60d, or 7d.  It would be shrewd of canon to puruse this.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New Entry Level Full Frame Camera? [CR1]
« on: September 17, 2011, 09:35:09 AM »
It's only a matter of time until Canon follows through on this.  Like they did with the 7d sensor, they'll place a full frame sensor in multiple bodies, stretching their profits from the r&d and actually reducing costs for the consumer in the long run as well. I wouldn't be surprised, given that the 5d mark ii is fairly frequently backordered, if Canon simply placed the same sensor in a plastic body, stuck a digic 5 in there, and pulled a bunch of features out.  The cost of producing it would not be staggering and i surmise it would sell well as a prosumer camera at around 1600?

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Canon General / Re: Abandoned at the Alter, Again
« on: September 15, 2011, 10:42:49 AM »
drummstikk--you're arguments are valid to a point, but not everyone's needs are the same.  I am shooting cyclists going by at 30mph, and the more I can capture individual athletes the more shots I sell.  I'm not shooting for a masterpiece or even a cover photo, I'm selling to the individuals, and everyone that I miss is a lost sales opportunity.

An old school way to do this is pick your spot, set your focus and capture them as they go by.  Except when they go by in groups, this doesn't work.  Old world there was nothing you could do about it.  With the latest and greatest I can refocus (or at least a good AF can; I doubt it's humanly possible, certainly not for me!) and recompose the shot multiple times in the span of 10 seconds and capture a whole lot more of what I'm trying to shoot.

But you're shooting with a 40d and not crying for a 1D IV.  I shoot cycling, too...with a 5d Mark II and a 20d at 5fps.  If someone can't find a 1d Mark IV and for some reason the 5d Mark II is so inferior, buy a 7d as someone else had mentioned.  There are LOADS of full-time photographers that don't use the 1-series.  National Geographic for years sent their photographers on assignment with EOS 5d's (they may still; I don't know anyone there anymore).  I've seen 7d's and 5d's carried by photographers on the field at NFL games.  It is a lot of fun to see a new camera body get announced with new technology, but let's all try to get a grip and realize that our pictures are not going to magically get better with this new technology.  No doubt the jump from film to our modern digital cameras has improved the quality of pro photographs, but now that we're (almost) all using digital, the returns are minimal on new bodies.  Is the 1d III so outdated that people can't use it for pro work?  REALLY?  C'mon.  I plan on keeping my bodies until it's more cost effective to replace than repair.  A person who makes their living off of photography shouldn't be buying a new pro body every time it's released; that's just bad financial planning for a business.  There is no way they'd be increasing their business so much by the "upgrade" to recoup that loss. 

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Canon Announces the PowerShot S100
« on: September 15, 2011, 08:34:46 AM »
A great update.  The addition of the grip on the front (previously a 3rd party add on) shows that Canon is responding to how their consumers are using the product.  This update really makes the S100 complete package. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Art Wolfe Confirms the 1Ds Mark IV?
« on: September 13, 2011, 06:26:26 PM »
Mr. Wolfe might very likely have inside knowledge of future products and as such, as mentioned, be subject to a strict NDA. However, the participants of his workshop are not. That's why I find it extremely hard to believe Canon would bring a yet undisclosed product to such an event.

+1.  Art was probably looking at his 1Ds MarK IV while writing the post and his subconscious got the better of him.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1Ds Mark IV & 24-70 II in 2 Weeks?
« on: September 13, 2011, 08:09:25 AM »
Monopod: the original image stabilizer. 

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Just noticed this on the 2nd pass:

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...along with numerous backs including the new 1DS Mark 4...

Would a long-time pro really use the word "back" to refer to DSLRs or is he implying that the new 1DS4 has interchangeable digital backs like the old rumors say it would have...? Hmmm...


Yes, plenty of pros do.  Grammatically, it wouldnt make sense for it to refer to anything else in the sentence.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 'Rep' tells BBC that "fewer megapixels are better"
« on: September 12, 2011, 08:09:42 AM »
I'm awaiting the release of a 400 mp camera so I can sell off all my telephoto lenses.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adorama has Lightroom Half Off
« on: September 11, 2011, 06:58:25 PM »
I bought one last week from Amazon for only $49.99!

It was listed for $149.99 and they sent me $100 discount of LightRoom because i bought a Canon 60D.
They sent me another discount of $400 for Adobe CS5.5 Production Premium but i missed it (ended Aug 31).

That's just crazy! 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Marketshare
« on: September 11, 2011, 12:52:35 PM »
Does anyone know how Amazon builds it's ranking list?  Is it based on overall sales since the product was offered or is it based on a function of sale frequency in a limited period of time?  I'm guessing the latter, but then I'd be curious as to whether they use a complex function to assign different weight to different time periods (most recent month having the greatest impact, two months ago having half the impact of the most recent, etc.). 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Having Multiple Camera Systems
« on: September 11, 2011, 12:48:38 PM »
For stage stuff like ballet, nothing beats two bodies with a 50mm f/1.2L and a 135mm f/2L attached.  The 50mm can capture most stages (all, if you can adjust your location) and the 135 is awesome at isolating a pair of dancers.  On budget, I'd go with two APS-Cs, an 85mm f/1.8, and maybe a 35mm f/2?  Not entirely sure.  The autofocus is pretty slow on the latter.

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EOS Bodies / Re: APS-C Camera with an L Lens as a Kit
« on: September 11, 2011, 12:37:02 PM »
As far as resale value on lenses, I can tell you from personal experience that if you hold on to a lens for a few years, you can get almost all of your money back.  In 2005, I purchased a EF 24-70mm f/2.8L, a EF 70-200mm f/4L, a EF 50mm f/1.4, and a EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro, all new from Amazon.  In 2010, I sold all four lenses on Craigslist for the exact same price I paid for them.  They were all in very good shape, though the two L's had both been fixed by Canon after an unfortunate five foot fall onto pavement for both of them.  The bottom line is lenses don't really wear and Canon keeps increasing the cost of new lenses.  I purchased a 50mm 1.2L last fall and fully expect to be able to sell it in a few years for the original purchase price.  Bottom line, the EF-S 15-85 seems like an excellent lens (haven't used it), will likely not have an update in the next five years, and you'll probably be able to make back almost all your money when you choose to sell.

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