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Funny how many people want to jump ship in a few years because Sony is supposedly to be the next big thing. Everyone has expectations that Sony will have great glass to go with the mirrorless in the near future. Canon will simply stand still ... eh?

With such great expectations from a company that is not even making a profit on the electronics division, people around here tend to think that Canon, the largest Camera selling company for the past decade, won't come up with something comparable, if not better.

Or...they could end up like Blackberry...asleep at the wheel. Time will tell.

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i'll be honest..
I too am going to get the A7R. Simply because it is what i have been waiting for in a long time.
I'm a Canon fan and i have tons of Canon glass and accessories etc..
But i always thought the weight of the 5D3 was a little too much for me and since i'm not a professional, i don't "need" a professional camera do i.
I have since also made the decision to switch to Sony. I love my 5D3 and all my L glass but somehow the A7R with good zeiss glass…i couldn't see a reason why i needed to keep my canon gear.
I am in fact going to sell away everything and move to Sony by next year once the zeiss 24-70 is launched
Noting against Canon, but i think they are indeed lacking behind in the mirrorless market. I have the M, it's a joke..and with nothing new anytime soon, i can't wait…
You go Boy! LOL!
I am going to be a little patient..but I am definitely headed toward the same boat. How can you not, unless you are a pro who specifically needs certain parts of a pro system.  I think when the next Sony body is released and there are many more lenses available is when I will jump.  I am skipping eBay too, with their ridiculous percentages...do you know of any forums to sell gear on and just use paypal??????

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all these new cameras are great. However, the breaking point will only arrive if and when Sony can come up with lenses as good as the 24-70 II, 70-200 II, etc. 

For me there is no point buying a Ferrari chassis and pairing it with a Mazda engine.

As a second / travel kit probably it is great but the lens collection is too small to be a primary kit. I might consider it once the option for the lenses grow in time.

Cheers ... J.R.

I agree... I have an extensive FF kit ( 5DIII ten lenses from fisheye to 300mm) L glass, Zeiss, best Sigmas...
I also have an extensive MFT kit (E-M5 E-P5..11 lenses from fisheye to 350mm equiv.) all the good AF primes etc.
Sony, classically release great tech in a body and mediocre glass...but they are making more of an effort this time and stocking up on the Zeiss lenses now and upcoming in the next couple of years.  As it stands right now..with my advancing age...I can see me in 2-years time, when the next Sony A 36MP body is released with Phase Detection AF, faster frame rate,better VF,  3rd party manufacturers are providing great lenses, the body is improved:  just selling off both of my kits and buying into one high-rez kit from Sony....   I am not into slapping MF lenses onto a camera (for the most part...)...but I can see a lot of people abandoning CAnon/Nikon right now who are into the MF thing and never looking back.
It is amazing..the stupidity and arrogance of Canon/Nikon regarding the mirrorless format....mind boggling.
The M is CRAP. Pathetic effort. The V cameras..not much better for serious photographers.
I have an E-P5 with the VF-4 and the photo experience is amazing to say the least...it trumps optical in many ways for me. It is more fun and exciting to use and soooooooo much lighter and smaller!!!!  Sony is coupling 36MP capture with all that I just mentioned...Who could not want that!!!?????
I can see in 3 years the Sony A7r system being everything MFT is today...with great glass that is WAY smaller than the current FF CAnon/Nikon glass.    MFT is currently an impressive, small,  fun  system....with very decent capture and a plethora of lenses and more every day...  Looks like Sony is the only one embarking on marrying the best of both worlds. 
Canon and Nikon look VERY foolish today. It's also completely inexcusable.
I saw this coming, did you see this coming??????   How could Canon not have an offering by NOW??????????
Just my 2 cents.

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PowerShot / Re: Limited Edition PowerShot Cameras Coming
« on: October 15, 2013, 11:21:23 AM »
YES, this is really what we all expect from Canon! As long as we get overpriced, engraved dwarf-sensored Pointnshoots we don't even notice that Sony is bringing FF-sensored mirrorless system cameras to market.

Canon is seriously off-track. They are in for hard times. Another Nokia going to happen.

+10,000!.....

..and..... dey is butt ugly.

...but...hey...look on the bright side....fall is here...they could make nice kindling to start the fireplace!  :-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Patent: Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II
« on: October 12, 2013, 06:49:53 PM »
"Only a red-ring fanboy will buy this"

I have tested the Siggy and the 35 L has been the holy grail absolute killer go to lens for a VERY long time and where it counts the most for me will always be AF and the L destroys the Siggy. Not
Even close.

So when the 35 L II comes out it will most likely be the best focusing 1.4 lens of
All times... Combine that with weather sealing and I'm buying!


I own a lot of red-ringed glass...but I keep my mind open to other products that can serve my needs as well, and maybe save me some money. Canon has its strengths and it's weaknesses. Lately the pricing of some of their products has become ridiculous, in my opinion.
My Sigma focuses fantastically and is adjustable via the dock. No problem there.
As far as a 35mm f/1.4 II goes.....well, I DID say red-ring fanboys! :-)

The current Canon L does have a LOT of room for improvement...so maybe the new patent will attend to the issues...but it will not attend to the price of the mkII(to be sure).
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3OuN1ywuufg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3OuN1ywuufg

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EOS Bodies / Re: Patent: Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II
« on: October 12, 2013, 10:01:30 AM »
I can't help but wonder how Canon will price this. If it is priced the way Canon is going about the new lenses, I expect it to be in the range of $ 1,500 to $ 2,000 but then it will have to be substantially better than the Sigma's offering, which retails for less than $ 900.

Interesting times these, maybe Canon will be caught in a bind and the pricing will be "affordable" just because of existence of the Siggy :)

Canon will also be hard-pressed to get the lens as sharp as the Sigma. It is spectacular.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« on: October 12, 2013, 08:57:07 AM »
WHY WAIT!?!?!? That is $900 less than I paid for mine!

http://www.canonwatch.com/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-2575

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EOS Bodies / Re: Patent: Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II
« on: October 12, 2013, 08:45:36 AM »
"+1, Canon will have the advantage for pro use, and of course the 'compatibility guarantee' for those of us who don't dare to go third party. Add weather sealing and it's sure to sell well, even if that MkII would not manage to quite touch the Sigma in image quality."

....or price. (whenever this hits the streets it will probably be offered at at least $1800, maybe higher based on recent statospheric pricing.   Canon...thanks for making my Sigma look even better!!!!) I love the Canon products I have decided to purchase...but only a red-ring fanboy would buy this lens.... :o
...now where is that Art Series 50mm to slay the new Zeiss!!!! (not really for IQ ...but it could be the second best choice  for a normal FF lens and have AF!).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Wait for the Canon 5D Mark IV or get the Mark III?
« on: October 12, 2013, 12:00:34 AM »
You will be blown away by the 5DIII coming from the 600D, and yes, it will probably be 2+ years for the 5DIV.
The 5Div will be introduced at $4000...consider that.  The III is PLENTY of camera...look for sales..you can buy one for $2500 if you keep your eyes open.
Great camera!

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I could have written a better review!

Permit me to disagree.

I've seen your writing.
Allow me to support the latest speaker ;)

LMAOROTF!  It is getting a little rough in here!!!!!!  :o

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And Bob, when I hit that lottery, the first thing I'm doing is buying one of these lenses for you -- you're one of the major league guys who actually deserves one and knows what to do with it! I'll let you know what day to meet me at B&H!!!
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Thanks Bill!
Please buy those tickets!
I don't "get" all the anger regarding this lens???   Looks like a celestial beauty to me...floating above the wannabes.
That's so cool. Perhaps the complainers just can't see what is actually "there there" with this lens. It looks to me like everything Zeiss says it is...WOW!

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Look, the reviewer obviously hasn't read the commentary on this website regarding the lens because quite clearly, without autofocus, this lens is not worth $4000 and nobody will buy it without autofocus, even if it is the sharpest lens since the big bang.

um....for you.
I cannot afford/justify the lens, especially as a manual focus normal lens.  ....but there are many who will buy the lens for its extremely high IQ. The fact that it has the highest IQ for FF makes it worth $4000.  That is some high praise in the review..highest I have ever heard and lets face it....ALL of the Canon, Nikon, Sigma, (previous) Zeiss 50mm primes to date are mediocre if you are a pixel peeper.  This lens blows them away...So just because you cannot afford it or you would never use a manual focus lens to state that "nobody will buy it" ...shows a very large lack of awareness in the photography world.  There are photographers who will buy this, are deserving of it, AND will put it to good use.
I just want to see some of THOSE images!!!!!!
My only hope is an Art Series 50mm from Sigma!!!!  ...I am waiting..........

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Well the holidays are just around the corner...so all of you guys know what you can give me as a gift now!  ;D

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"Ridiculous" for one may be quite reasonable for another.  I think some will change their minds once they see some of the images this lens will be capable of.  I've certainly been tempted by the Zeiss Planar Macro after seeing some of those images.

by the way.... the question with such stuff always is.. do you need the skills of the photographer or the lens to shot those pictures?   ;)

Having both works for me!


yeah well it´s like my "dick" reply....words are cheap.  :P

Jeeeez...lighten up Lichtgestalt...I thought I was making a joke.

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"Ridiculous" for one may be quite reasonable for another.  I think some will change their minds once they see some of the images this lens will be capable of.  I've certainly been tempted by the Zeiss Planar Macro after seeing some of those images.

by the way.... the question with such stuff always is.. do you need the skills of the photographer or the lens to shot those pictures?   ;)

Having both works for me!

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