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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Information [CR1]
« on: January 19, 2012, 01:29:00 PM »
They did?  In 2008, Canon and Nikon were nearly neck and neck in dSLR market share at 38 and 37%, respectively, but by 2010, Canon rose to 44.5% while Nikon fell to under 30%.  Who's bleeding share, here?

I'm not saying the trend will continue, but historically, your statement is just plain wrong.  Canon can look at the above numbers and come away thinking they don't have to change a thing...

One other key point - we're talking about FF cameras costing in excess of US$2,000.  That's not the real competitive battleground.  Sure, it's interesting to us here on CR...but the overwhelming majority of dSLR purchases are entry-level bodies with kit lenses, and that arena is the real driver of the overall sales figures.  Granted, there's a trickle-down effect, and when pros are seen using Canon or Nikon that impacts consumer decisions to some degree. 

Yeah, that's your favourite statistic, but Nikon have been on the move in the mid-ground for a while now and that is where there are high margins and volume, for both bodies and lenses.  Granted, there's quite a bit of lag in the system because the "advanced amateur/pro-sumer" or whatever name you wish to give them, tends to own a good collection of lenses.  With growth in the DSLR sector now basically static, Canon would be fools to ignore this segment.  My view is that if Canon continues to signal that they intend to play second fiddle to Nikon, more and more people will consider the switch; I cannot be the only person that does the 'back of cigarette packet' calculations of trade-in costs every time I hear rumours like this...

A 5DIII with weak AF stacked up against a D800 with more MP and better AF will not cut Canon as deeply as it might appear.  People with a 5DII and a bunch of L-series lenses, people with a 60D and a couple of EF lenses, those folks are unlikely to sell it all and jump over to Nikon in droves.  The number of first-time purchasers with no system buy-in and no brand loyalty who jump straight into a >$2K FF camera is vanishingly small, especially relative to the number of xxxD buyers.

We're not all going to change systems every generation based upon who's got the 'best' specifications, but when you see your chosen manufacturer continue to underspecify versus the competition year upon year and when you know that they have access to the same sort of technology, you start to think that they're taking you for a fool. 

This sounds like an anti-Canon tirade, which would be unfair based solely upon a rumour.  Let me just state that I'm not buying any camera equipment until all the major players show their hands this year and then I will be making a long term decision on whether to stick or switch.  I'm pretty sure that I won't be the only person in this position. 

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DO NOT USE SIMPLY ELECTRONICS

Best place for price in the UK that I know is www.procamerashop.co.uk
Then it's HDEW cameras.

For anything other than cameras and lenses then Dale Photographic or Warehouse Express.


Has anyone else used procamerashop? Their prices look a little on the cheap side across the board, which always sets off alarm bells for me.  I don't mean to slander them if they are genuine, but £899 for a 7D body? Most places sell them second hand for more than that!

Edit: I've looked at hdew cameras as well and they seem to be the same prices.  Neither of these sites appear on Camera Price Buster; I don't know if this comparison site takes commission (which might explain this), but it seems a bit strange...

I bought 4 lenses from Pro camera shop, first 2 turned up within 48 hours, the rest a few days. I recommended them for a reason ;)


I have no doubt that you had a good experience with this store, as most reviews that I've seen online are very positive.  My concern is that they should be clearer on their website that what they are selling is grey imports.  It must be said that from what I've read of internet feedback, if you ask them this question then they give you a straight answer, but in my opinion you shouldn't need to ask. 

If you're happy with the warranty that these stores provide and the fact that your purchase will not be covered by a Canon warranty, then by all means go ahead and save yourself some money.   I don't mean to bang on about this, but I feel it is important to make it clear for people who aren't knowledgable about grey imports (perhaps those reading this board before buying their first camera) of the risk involved taking this route. 

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Lenses / Re: EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
« on: January 15, 2012, 06:41:03 PM »
Same focal length range, no IS... This lens had better break all resolution records if it's to justify the $2000 they're going to ask for it.  As customers, we might be better off if they simply made the existing lens to tighter tolerances, as the people who get a 'good copy' seem to be pleased with it. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS-1D X Battery Issues?
« on: January 15, 2012, 06:24:25 PM »
In the interview at RG, it is suggested that the change in the law in Japan is the reason that the D4's battery is lower capacity than the D3s'.  It does seem a bit strange that the D300, D700 & D3s/x models cannot now be sold, whereas Canon don't seem to have had problems with their models in Japan.  I had also heard that there was something about the contacts on the older generation Nikon batteries that made them potentially susceptible to short circuiting (probably in ultra-extreme lab test circumstances).  Perhaps this is related to the rumoured 1D X battery problems -Canon may be having battery life difficulties.  If this is indeed the case, I don't think that they'll be alone...

As for the firmware updates, uncompressed video out from the HDMI connection and f/8 focusing perhaps?

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United Kingdom & Ireland / Re: Canon not at Focus
« on: January 14, 2012, 01:35:03 PM »
You're a year out of date, this thread is from 2011!

You'll be please to know that the FOCUS ON IMAGING 2012 website states in big yellow letters:

"NEWS: Canon will be exhibiting at FOCUS 2012, more news to follow soon. "

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DO NOT USE SIMPLY ELECTRONICS

Best place for price in the UK that I know is www.procamerashop.co.uk
Then it's HDEW cameras.

For anything other than cameras and lenses then Dale Photographic or Warehouse Express.

Has anyone else used procamerashop? Their prices look a little on the cheap side across the board, which always sets off alarm bells for me.  I don't mean to slander them if they are genuine, but £899 for a 7D body? Most places sell them second hand for more than that!

Edit: I've looked at hdew cameras as well and they seem to be the same prices.  Neither of these sites appear on Camera Price Buster; I don't know if this comparison site takes commission (which might explain this), but it seems a bit strange...

It's $1375 US from B&H Photo Video, which is about the same as 899gbp, so I don't think it sounds too unrealistic.  I was actually talking with a guy from England yesterday at a local shop and he was like a kid in a candy store about the prices.  I see 7D's used (but like new condition) for $1000-$1200 all the time here.

I don't know if sales tax is already added to B&H's prices, but all UK based retailers include VAT at 20% on their prices (this can be recovered by VAT registered businesses), this is usually the approximate difference between US and UK prices.  This is what make me suspicious about the £899 price...

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DO NOT USE SIMPLY ELECTRONICS

Best place for price in the UK that I know is www.procamerashop.co.uk
Then it's HDEW cameras.

For anything other than cameras and lenses then Dale Photographic or Warehouse Express.

Has anyone else used procamerashop? Their prices look a little on the cheap side across the board, which always sets off alarm bells for me.  I don't mean to slander them if they are genuine, but £899 for a 7D body? Most places sell them second hand for more than that!

Edit: I've looked at hdew cameras as well and they seem to be the same prices.  Neither of these sites appear on Camera Price Buster; I don't know if this comparison site takes commission (which might explain this), but it seems a bit strange...

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Until Canon has a full frame body that is under $2000 at release, there will still be a market for reasonable priced prime lenses.  There are people stating that full frame users are those who derive the greatest benefit from fast primes, I beg to differ; if you are struggling to achieve shallow depth of field due to the smaller sensor on APS-C cameras then fast primes make even more sense: look at their popularity on the 'mirrorless' cameras. 

That said, I don't think that straight replacements for the old EF primes is the way to go.  An ideal lineup would be a fast (i.e. f/2 or faster) 15mm, 22mm and 30mm EF-S in the $600-$700 price bracket (like the new Fuji XF lenses).  Before everyone moans that they should be EF mount, there are design advantages that come with the reduced coverage and back focus distance of EF-S when it comes to the wide-normal range. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« on: January 14, 2012, 09:09:56 AM »

How would customs know? Do they have the power (or maybe more importantly the will or resources)  to have you prove it was a UK purchase? How would they detect this?

It's just that one can definitely take a trip to the US and have a holiday into the bargain...just saying  :P

Cheers

Jon.

I thought I should reply to your comment before you have customs charge you a big duty & VAT bill!  :(

I'm sure that there's lots of people who have got away with it and some will suggest dumping all packaging to make it less suspect (and you'd best also dump the paperwork from the US authorities claiming your purchase tax back upon leaving the country!).  If you are walking through the green channel at the airport and UK customs do decide to stop you, then it is UP TO YOU TO PROVE TO THEM that the camera was bought in the EU.  If you cannot do this they can charge you the duty and VAT and it will be up to you to seek a refund by providing EU receipts for your gear.  On top of this, they can also fine you for evading UK taxes. 

It's up to you whether you wish to take this risk to get a camera for a couple of hundred quid less.  Many people advise taking copies of receipts and inventories with you when you travel to avoid accusations of importation. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« on: January 14, 2012, 07:34:20 AM »
To clarify what wikidwombat states, I've done some research and it seems that GST (at 10%) is the only tax applicable to imports of digital cameras into Australia , unlike the UK where duty is also payable (I'm guessing as a value added tax, it is reclaimable if you're a business that's registered?) See:

http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/HT85BW2012.pdf -item 8525.80.10 (took a bit of digging -Aussie customs website is a bit dense!)

So, the calculation would be (I'll use US$ as it is still the world's 'go to' currency and prices in the US are generally quoted tax free):

US$6800 = AU$6590.42
$6590.42 x 1.1 (i.e. GST @ 10%) = $ 7249.46

Compared to the UK (cheapest list price £5299):

US$6800 = £4439.37
£4439.37 x 1.049 (import duty) = £4656.90
£4656.90 x 1.2 (Value Added Tax) = £5588.28

So assuming you intend to import the camera into the UK legitimately, it would not be worth buying it from the USA. 

But in Australia’s case, it certainly would, so how do we get to $9990? My guess is that it’s either price gouging or the reasons is that dealers/Canon are covering themselves against currency market volatility.  The Aussie Dollar is currently very high on the back of raw material exports to China:

Ten years ago AU$1.95: US$1
Now: AU$0.97: US$1

If the world descends into another recession then demand for manufactured goods will fall, leading to knock on effects that would lower the price of the Aussie Dollar.  It would look very bad if Canon suddenly had to increase the list price in Australia, so they price the camera high and offer rebates or instant discounts once the cameras are available.  In either case you'd expect the post-release price should be much lower, if this is not the case then buy it from abroad!

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EOS Bodies / Re: OT - hasselblad masters
« on: January 14, 2012, 06:09:04 AM »
I must say that I agree with your take.  I can see why this sort of HDR work is well liked, it is certainly eye catching.  I'm not sure if people like this sort of 'hyper-HDR' for the same reasons that they admire watercolour or acrylic paintings, or if it is a reflection of today's computer game/CGI culture.  Personally I prefer HDR that is used sensitively to expand the dynamic range of the image to approximate that of the human eye rather than to create 'that look', so thanks for the link to Tony Kuypers site, I shall be reading it in depth. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: OT - hasselblad masters
« on: January 14, 2012, 04:23:00 AM »
i went through the finalist section, there are some good ones in there better than the winners. but oh my god! there is some seriously over processed tripe too.


Hmm, I see what you mean.  What I might call 'heavy handed' processing seems to be popular these days.  Whilst I don't really like it myself, others do, so I guess we're into another 'definition of art' debate.  That's why I now resist referring to HDR et. al. as 'overprocessed', or by other derogatory tags; if it's what the public wants... By extension, I've noticed that Trey Ratcliff's site http://www.stuckincustoms.com/ seems popular around Canon Rumors at the moment (perhaps only because of his comments on 'mirrorless' cameras).  How would you describe his work?

Congratulations on getting to the finalists -dare I ask which category? I didn't see the rules of the competition, did you have to use Hasselblad kit?

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My first instinct was to laugh... But seriously -this sort of behavious jeopardizes the availability of lenses for handling at trade shows and should be deplored. 

Now that's out of the way, Sigma state that there were two pre-production lenses in existence; which mount was the one that was stolen? If it was Sigma SA mount, then it shouldn't be too hard to find the culprit; I would get the police to interview both suspects. 


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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 28 f/2.8 Disappears From Price List
« on: January 13, 2012, 02:01:32 PM »
Isn't it time for Canon to make USM standard?

No, despite inventing the ultrasonic lens motor, that seem to be Nikon's job!  ::)

I'd like to get excited about this lens dropping off price lists, but this has happened before just for them to suddenly become available again.  Like many people have pointed out, this cannot be a popular lens -the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 XR Di ll LD is not a whole lot more money for a much better lens; it wouldn't be surprising if Canon were simply killing the 28mm f/2.8 off due to lack of sales.  I hope I'm wrong on this count, an EF-S 30mm f/1.8 is long overdue and yes, it should have a USM motor!

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLRs are a dying breed, EVIL is the future!
« on: January 12, 2012, 02:41:24 PM »
When EVFs are indistiguishable from OVFs and on-chip phase detect AF is as good as using a separate sensor, then I cannot see the point of having a mirror inside the camera anymore.  But none of this means that all future 'mirrorless' cameras will be tiny pocketable models; I've stated my position before that in the future 'mirrorless' cameras will simply be the norm and there will be plenty of room in the market for many different form factors. 

Imagine this for a future Canon pro camera:

-no mirror, on-sensor hybrid phase and contrast detect AF (Nikon 1 style)
-smaller flange back distance frees up designers to produce exciting new lenses (which can be used on smaller bodies when you need compactness or discretion)
-EF mount adaptor allows mounting of legacy lenses
-Huge EVF (bigger than current 1D X's 0.76x) that lets you compose in near darkness (to match the low light capabilities of future sensors), whilst previewing white balance and exposure. 
-fully electronic shutter with 120+fps capability (no moving parts), flash sync at just about any speed you like...

Still afraid of losing the mirror?


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