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PowerShot Cameras / Re: More Super G Series Talk
« on: December 26, 2011, 01:09:24 PM »
If Canon put a fixed lens on it and called it a Mirrorless Camera, it would fit in with many of the others.  Personally, I prefer the zoom lens.

And that's the only problem; if you use a large sensor, you are stuck with either a fast prime, a slow zoom, or a massive lens (compared to the size of the camera).  For example, the Fuji X100 is great if you want a 35mm (equivalent) prime, if not it is worthless.  The whole point of interchangeable lenses on most 'mirrorless' (a poor name, if you ask me!) cameras, is that you can choose which of the lens options you wish to own, or to carry for a day's shooting. 

I don't own one of these cameras yet, partly because I have been waiting to see what Canon would bring to the party.  I like the idea of them because they are light enough to take with you when you're not planning a shoot, but want to have a camera with you in case the opportunity arises.  I'd rather have a 'coat pocket' size camera with DSLR image quality than a 'shirt pocket' size camera where I would always wish that I'd have had my DSLR with me. 

I also think that these cameras would be great for street photography -shooting from waist level with a tilting screen, where a large DSLR camera with an eye level viewfinder makes you stand out. 

In summary, a "Super G" would be great if it had an APS-C sensor with a 24-105mm (equivalent) f/2-2.8 zoom and was no bigger than the current G12, but the laws of physics are probably against this; so interchangeable lenses are the next best thing.   

I had to laugh when I saw this advertised on Amazon:

It's not so much that this obvious marketing gimmick exists, it's the bit below where Amazon reveals "What Other Items Do Customers Buy After Viewing This Item?"  ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: Happy Holidays!
« on: December 24, 2011, 08:13:48 PM »
Merry Christmas - hope you all get what you want, even if you have to buy it yourselves!

EOS Bodies / Re: 5d mkiii insanity
« on: December 24, 2011, 04:19:37 PM »
Or the EOS 3D that's rumoured to be coming out this year too!  ;)

EOS Bodies / Re: weird "grid lines" in 5DII pictures
« on: December 24, 2011, 06:03:00 AM »
Sorry, I've never noticed this effect before... My guess is that it's either some sort of jpeg artifact (try processing a raw file), or a diffraction pattern (what f-stop was this picture taken at?).  I know that old box brownie images often showned this "fishnet" look (caused by diffraction), but you could see it in the actual print; you crop looks like you're zoomed in to well over 100%.  Can you see this effect at lower magnifications? If not, then I wouldn't worry about it. 

Why bother with a mirror? Wow....

If you try burst mode and af between frames on a A77 and 7D, that will answer your question. The day I can't by a camera with optical VF, it's the day I find another hobby. The EVF suck.... Plus, the way Sony have done it is by reducing the amount of light in by 30%, yeah, that's what we need for photo, LESS light....

Why are we so desperate to get rid of the mirror? You don't buy a 1-series Canon despite of it's size and weight and mirror and af and FF, you buy it because of all those things. The hybrids are glorified lens-caps.

For those who just don't get the advantage of a mirror and Phase-AF, there's always a NEX or a GF3, but to claim we should loose the mirror-system all together is a completely two-cans-short-of a six-pack-statement...

You're talking about current technology; at the current state-of-the-art, I agree with you.  Let's not forget that plenty of these arguments were used in the film to digital transition.  EVFs are only just reaching the stage where they can be considered as viable alternatives to OVFs on low to mid-range DSLR type cameras and on chip phase detect AF is currently in its first generation.  As time goes on these technologies will progress until (I believe) their advantages will outweigh the benefits of current systems for the majority of users.  I'm not saying it's going to happen tomorrow, or even in the next few years, but I think that day will eventually come. 

There's a broad diversity of opinions here and in a way they're all correct.  The reason for this is because what we're currently calling "mirrorless", "EVIL", "ILC", or whatever, will eventually be what we will call "cameras".  Cameras exist today and existed in previous eras in many different formats and this will likely remain the case in the future.  We are struggling to find a category to put these new system cameras in, because everyone wants them for something different and want different things from them.  Some want small, pocketable cameras (the 'compact camera upgrader' and 'DSLR supplement' crowd), whilst others want larger, more ergonomic and capable cameras (the 'DSLR replacement' crowd).  Neither of these positions is inherently wrong, but one camera (and perhaps even one system) is unlikely to satisfy both camps. 

Technology is approaching a point where even "professional" cameras will not need many of the mechanical trappings of the SLR heritage.  So will mirrorless cameras replace DSLRs? Eventually, I think they will; once you've removed the need for the reflex system with ultra high resolution EVFs and on-sensor phase detect AF, why bother with a mirror - flappy or transluscent :)

In this type of changing market, it is often those with less to lose that are able to move first, which is why I think that we're seeing the 'DSLR replacement' system camera from the likes of Panasonic and Samsung whilst the those with larger market shares in DSLRs have been slower moving.  Once the 'big two' admit DSLRs are reaching the end of the road, they've given up their massive advantage in glass and also the competitve advantages that their competences in the mechanical side of cameras give them.  This fear of game-change in the industry explains why Nikon went for the 1" sensor in the "1" system (cr*p name) and why Canon seems so paralysed with indecision.   

Portrait / Re: Tim Hetherigton's final work before he was killed in Libiya
« on: December 17, 2011, 05:25:31 PM »
A thought provoking article.  Thanks for sharing the link.

Site Information / Re: Applaud or smite?
« on: December 17, 2011, 01:56:43 PM »
One person with an axe to grind can smite another poster once every two hours.

Tried it have you?  ;D

Joking aside, I don't think I've ever used the "Smite" button.  If someone posts a comment that I disagree with, either I think their point is worthy of a reply, or I ignore it.  On the other hand, I frequently use the applaud button  instead of a "+1" post, in order to spare others having to read through long message chains. 

Trolls are best simply ignored as they feed on any kind of feedback!

P.S. If it's workable within the current set-up, I like the idea of linking karma to posts rather than members to provide genuine people with better feedback. 

Lenses / Re: Buy a used 24-70 now or wait for new version?
« on: December 14, 2011, 06:17:22 PM »
Canon Rumors should have a 'sticky' rumour that states "The 24-70 f/2.8L replacement will be announced tomorrow".  As tomorrow is always another day away, this rumour would never be wrong.  All Craig would have to remember to do would be to remove it on the actual announcement day (which I assume will come someday!). 

EOS Bodies / Re: 7D2, 5D3 and Megapixel Insights
« on: December 14, 2011, 06:11:03 PM »
Nice catch.  I am expecting a "hard bundle" for the first shipments and a new 24-70L would make a bunch of sense.

If a 24-70 f/2.8L replacement is announced next year, then it will probably initially be made available to 1D X buyers only, but I can't see it bundled with a 5D Mk.II replacement -it would be too expensive. 

Canon needs a major announcement at CES.  Its the biggest spotlight of the year and the one that attracts gobs of press. 

CES is not the only big show next year, there's Photokina at the end of September; traditionally, this has been the more important show (compared to the old, pre-CES integrated PMA) for announcing higher-end cameras. 

If this rumour did turn out to be true, it'd make you wonder if Canon and Nikon had signed a cooperation agreement.  Apparently, quite a lot of that goes on in Japan anyway...

Canon General / Re: An EF 70-200 f/4L IS II in Mid January? [CR1]
« on: December 11, 2011, 10:27:55 AM »
If ever there was a lens less in need of an upgrade it was this one... So I'm sure that this rumour will come true!

EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit About the 5D Mark III? [CR1]
« on: December 07, 2011, 01:37:31 PM »
But the point is, some within Canon do recognize that a decent level of AI Servo performance is needed - after all, it's not jsut a studio/landscape camera, it's a wedding camera, too...and brides do move (just not very fast).  But it will remain a fact that if you want an AF system that will deliver the best keeper rate, you need a 1-series body Nikon!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit About the 5D Mark III? [CR1]
« on: December 07, 2011, 01:36:08 PM »

The purpose of the 5D Mrk III is not:
-   to be a great professional landscape camera
Landscaper Shooters who keep saying this is so popular.. please be realistic.

A real “pro” landscape photographer would be using medium or large format:
either 4” x 5” or 8” x 10” film (which is very affordable compared to digital a system),
a $12k+ Hasselblad cam system or  $9,995 penta 645D. Im sure pentax and hasslblad arehaving a hard to meeting the demand for these cameras!

You could not be more wrong !

Some of the best landscape photograpers here in the Netherlands use the Canon 5D Mark 2 and these people do shoots all over the world all year long at the most beautifull and sometimes difficult to reach places as I  learned in a seminar of one of them.

Being there at JUST the right time , catching the moment with magical light , the right season etc etc thats what counts in getting greater pictures in landscape.
They use big Gitzo tripods and Lee ND filters but seem to be very satisfied with 'just' a Canon camera.

Actually you are somewhat correct, I'm not saying the 5D Mk II wont produce great results as a landscape camera. You must realize my point, the quality of a digital sensor at 21.1 MP is NOTHING compared to 4" x 5" film processed with a pro scanner. A real professional landscape photographer can get prints for museum displays and large prints over 3' x 4'. You absolutely CANNOT get high quality large prints using the 5D Mk II, the larget print you could get at 300 dpi is about 13" x 19".

source =

Using 4" x 5" film and a high quality drum scan process, you can get an approximately a 500 MP image. The quality difference is simply to great.

Here's a great article comparing a digital cameras to film, after reading maybe you will under stand the reasoning I had behind my statement.

Do you think Ansel Adams would use a digital camera for landscapes?

Even Ansel Adams moved to medium format in his latter years as film emultions improved and he got too old to lug around a huge pack full of large format kit.  Go and have a look at the weight of a large format camera system and compare it to a DSLR, not to mention the amount of set up time required for each shot (and the expense of the film).  That's not to say that the quality of large or medium format isn't better, it's a trade off of quality versus convenience (if you don't agree -why aren't you carrying around a 8" x 10" instead of mere 4" x 5"?).  There are plenty of landscape photographers out there using DSLRs or digital medium format as it allows them to be more experimental and prolific in their shooting style.  It's far better to get the shot on a smaller, faster format than to miss it messing around trying to set up large format kit.  Large format is already on the wane as more landscape photographers move to the ever improving digital medium format systems.  It's all about convenience...

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