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EOS Bodies / Re: BG-E11 availability
« on: May 23, 2012, 09:12:30 PM »
Same here, from Allen's Camera... $329 + $10 shipping... Arrives tomorrow! Very excited.

I had comments on other forums that HTP increases shadow noise due to how it works. I looked in my examples in deep shadows and this appears to be correct. So if you prefer cleaner shadows, it may be best to turn off.

I turned off mine after seeing that. I would rather have cleaner shadows myself. Highlights have not been a big deal for me to save.

Thanks for the info! I always thought HTP and ALO only benefited the JPEG's.

EOS Bodies / Examples showing HTP working with RAW files - 5D III
« on: May 23, 2012, 11:36:13 AM »
In the Dpreview review, they claimed that HTP (highlight tone priority) also benefits the RAW files. The general consensus is that it only benefited JPEG's, but that looks to be proven incorrect.

I took a series of sample images to compare side by side. Here are a few examples:

First one...  This was AFTER I applied -100 whites and -100 recovery in LR4. Left side is HTP on, right is HTP off.

Untitled-1 by invertalon, on Flickr

Here is a second example. This is the RAW images, unaltered. Tripod mounted, live-view focused and manual mode taken within seconds of each other.

1 by invertalon, on Flickr

Now this after I applied -100 whites and -100 recovery. You can see some more detail retained on the left (on) side.

2 by invertalon, on Flickr

Finally, another area of the picture above on a blown out white house. This is after recovery of -100 whites and highlights. You can see more detail in the ON side.

3 by invertalon, on Flickr

So as you can see, HTP is giving more highlight headroom as Dpreview has claimed. No longer just for RAW files!

EOS Bodies / Re: DPReview 5D3 review out
« on: May 22, 2012, 11:04:27 PM »
For video, it is known the D800 is sharper out of camera... However, the 5D3 takes better to post processing. More detail comes out of sharpening the softer 5D3 video then having it be sharper out of camera. That is what Chuck the Canon tech guy has said, at least.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 vs D800 sales numbers
« on: May 22, 2012, 11:58:09 AM »
The 5D3 is being bought up like hotcakes. You really think you will see a price drop in the next 6-months? No way.

The 5D3 is out of stock or back-ordered on many of the largest sites... The supply of the 5D3 they have got are probably MUCH larger then the D800. Canon is pumping them out in much larger numbers. The fact the 5D3 is still out of stock in many places should show you sales are strong.

The D800 is out everywhere due to good demand and poor supply by Nikon. Nikon may be out of stock everywhere much worse then the 5D3, but the 5D3 could have 300% the sales of the D800... Never know.

The Samyang does have some pretty heavy distortion, but the profile available with Lightroom or PTlens corrects it well! Sadly, waiting for the profile for LR4 though...

UWA are great fun... I too always wanted the 14L, but with the limited use for the FL I could not justify the price tag. Thankfully, I found the Samyang 14mm f/2.8... It may not have AF, but I just use the hyperfocal distances and don't worry about AF at all. One of the sharpest lenses I have ever shot, especially how wide it is. LOVE it! And only cost me $289... lol

With 14mm, you can turn almost anything into something fun. Just walk around aimlessly and point it at stuff and just play with the perspective even on boring subjects. They are fun lenses to use!

Lenses / Re: 24-105mm f/4 L IS on a crop camera
« on: May 18, 2012, 11:29:02 AM »
I *loved* the 24-105 with my 7D... Was my main walk-around lens. Paired with a 10-22 or 12-24, there is NO problem with the 24mm widest FL. IQ was excellent from end to end, very happy with that combo.

On FF the lens gains a little more use on the wide end, but I do miss the reach of 105 with the 7D.

EOS Bodies / Re: Why canon sucks ass:
« on: May 11, 2012, 10:51:05 AM »
Once I saw how long the article was, I closed it out.

Anybody have a cliff-notes version of this?  :o

Maybe because they felt it was not worth it? I mean, the D800E may seem popular now but moire can be an annoying issue. Sure, people love sharper details and such, but there always is a tradeoff.

Depending on the D800E popularity, Canon may react in the future. I would say there is a good chance of that as well. The D800E seems to be doing well, but it is too early to say the long-term popularity of it.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 capture sharpening routines
« on: May 09, 2012, 11:34:17 PM »
I wonder if the video theory applies to stills... The Canon rep Chuck Westfall in an interview confirmed that video was softer SOOC as people have noted... However, he said that is on purpose as it accepts sharpening very well and in the end, pulls out more detail then if it was sharper SOOC.

Canon's Chuck Westfall speaks with planet5D at NAB 2012

So I wonder if stills are the same? The sharpening is roughly the same IMO as the 5D II, I may use a tad more though by default (48, 0.9, 45, 5) are my settings now, versus (45,0.9, 45, 5) with the 5D2. Not much change really. But honestly, I feel the 5D3 images have a bit more detail, but that may be because the AF system locks on perfectly basically every single time... The tiniest front/back focus can really affect the sharpness of the image. The 5D3 is extremely consistent compared to the 5D2.

Maybe Canon is doing slightly less sharper images at the sensor level in order to gain more detail once sharpening is applied either by the camera or via LR, PS, DPP, etc...  Not sure, it may just apply to video. In that case, who knows!  ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: any screen protectors for MarkIII?
« on: May 09, 2012, 05:59:42 PM »
The only protector I would even consider using would be the GGS glass ones. The plastic ones are terrible.

I don't plan on using any with my 5D3 though.

It does not make me want to change it all. I am extremely happy with my 5D3 and at this point, care less about the D800. It was fun at first to compare them, but now it is just getting old.

For those who go with the D800, awesome. For those with the 5D3, awesome. It does not bother me in the least. I don't get why people care so much about others though. Go with what you really want. The D800 and 5D3 are different target audiences and I fall into what the 5D3 offers. I simply believe it is the superior camera for me.

I won't have any second thoughts on my decision either. The 5D3 is the best body I have ever used.  So I am happy!

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: The 5D Mark III Fix
« on: May 03, 2012, 12:10:25 PM »

Ya know I'm getting a bit fed up with all the "engineers" touting that this fix is standard throughout the electronics industry and that we, as consumers, should just deal with it.  Well to you I say "stick it where the sun doesn't shine."

Yes I understand you have spent a lot of money and time and sweat on your education and I'm just a poor blue-collar shmuck.  I know you have a pretty plaque on the wall that 'says' you know what you are doing.  You might even have a sticker on your drivers license to help you convince the cops you are smart.  So what.

Don't come on here and try to convince us mere mortals that this is sufficient and 'don't open your computers' because there is tape all inside it.  You know what?  I have opened my computer...I build my own computers and THERE ISN'T A STITCH OF TAPE ANYWHERE INSIDE IT.  Not one small piece.

What you guys are trying to do is, convince the consumer that your way of doing things is sufficient and that our wee-bit of knowlege on the matter is laughable.  Shall we revisit your way of doing things?  1.  Do it cheaply.  2. Do is sufficiently 3. Do it 'just enough' to make it work.  4.  Hope the customer doesn't find out that your company charges a premium for such a mickey mouse fix.  5. Collect a paycheck and straighten the plaque on the wall.

Well I got news for you guys.  It's the consumer that decides whether it's good enough.  WE decide with our pocketbooks.  YOU get to go redesign it if WE tell you it isn't. 

I work with engineers everyday.  Not in the electronics field, but the manufacturing field.  And I'm here to tell you, you guys F@#* stuff up more than you help.  Constant rework and on the fly fixes by the guy without the degree while the guy with the degree looks down smugly over his glasses and his CATIA program; never actually putting things together. 

Tape.  That's the fix for a $3500.00 camera light leak issue.  Personally I'm disgusted and as consumers we shouldn't have to settle for it.

They couldn't design it correctly to begin with, so they hot patched it.  And you engineer types claim we should be thrilled. 

Just one question:  If you engineer types are so smart why the heck does the camera need to be fixed with tape to correct how it was engineered?


Wow, somebody is extremely bitter about something... Having worked on the largest aluminum forging presses in the world to working on military and commercial airfoils all the way to high precision medical CT, MRI and PET equipment, you would be surprised how much stuff gets "overlooked" and requires simple repairs you will never see. You are complaining about some tape in a camera to simply act as a light shield? Seriously?

Get over yourself.

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