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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Tempting Fate Being "Mirrored"?
« on: September 11, 2011, 12:55:47 PM »
May be this is like apples and oranges, but why reading this thread makes me feel like, I have deja vu?
Netbook or i-Pad anyone? Just some fat cat CEO from Canon is missing trying to publicly ridicule the mirrorless idea...

This is a much more intelligent subject. Netbook and Ipad do different stuff for different needs, both are good. Here we are talking if a mirrorless can achieve it's size/quality objective which could be aimed for a good number of users. We are not talking about mirrorless being better or not to traditional SLR.


You are right of course, and if you think bit harder you may come up with few more differences...
I was talking about analogy that should be obvious to people without prejudice in perception of facts.



Currently top placed NEX is the the NEX-5N black 18-55 @ position 11 with just 19 days in top 100, but at position 12 there is the 2009 500D 18-55 with 887 days in top 100. I can't see the older 2010 NEX-3 and NEX-5 in the top 100. The new NEX are still pre-order. When they get in stock, they should increase in sales, and than we have to wait and see if they will be able to stay in top positions for more than a year.

Same pattern here, if you have ever read news/blogs about every single revolutionary Apple product launch beginning with iPod, iPhone and ending with iPad those are the exact predictions: "the sales will last couple of weeks at best and than will dramatically fall when the niche get saturated". Finally they may get the satisfaction: iPod sales are down after a decade!

I can promise you, other members will be kind, and nobody will be rubbing your nose in it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Tempting Fate Being "Mirrored"?
« on: September 11, 2011, 08:16:33 AM »
May be this is like apples and oranges, but why reading this thread makes me feel like, I have deja vu?
Netbook or i-Pad anyone? Just some fat cat CEO from Canon is missing trying to publicly ridicule the mirrorless idea...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Tempting Fate Being "Mirrored"?
« on: September 09, 2011, 08:10:06 AM »
Canon had better wake up and move on this. I've been saying for months the iPhone 5 and new Androids with 8MP cameras are going to wipe out the P&S market, which means the real battle ground for market share will be in the EVIL systems. So far Sony looks to have redefinded the segment with the NEX-7, I honestly I think it could be a game changer, and make many SLRs obsolete.

Agreed!

It is hard to blame Canon or Nikon for playing the waiting game, profits are just incredible and it will probably never happen again that an average aspiring amateur will pay voluntarily 3X the price of most advanced professional body just 10 years a go! (look at the culture right here on CR, to have the best and newest! Lets just hope no kids go hungry, or are loosing college funds because of this super expensive hobby of ours).

Adding that both Canon and Nikon have all the necessary base, expertise with lenses and all sort of body designs from the times of film point and shoot era, there are no doubts that waiting is intentional, and may be proven rather short sighted.
I love pro equipment to, and have spent my share for stuff, like brand new Hasselblad, two Toyo cameras,   twinlens Rolleiflex etc. that have been barely used and now collecting dust.
There are some changes needed, Sony is smart enough, and have nothing to loose to take advantage of this, let's hope Canon did not adopt the new prevalent business philosophy of making as much, as fast money for as long as possible, without thinking of future...

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Canon General / Re: An article Canon should read.
« on: August 31, 2011, 01:26:44 PM »
Well, this certainly confirms that there is nothing quite like Apple to get the juices flowing on both sides (all started by one person re-posting a rather silly p.r. story masquerading as commentary).

Archangelrichard, you do realize that your extreme reaction only reinforces the impression that many have about the cult-like loyalty that Apple inspires in some users?

Apple and Canon are both successful companies. They are in the business to make money. It is very tragic that Mr. Jobs is apparently in the end stages of pancreatic cancer (I have had two friends die of this disease in the last several years and I hate to see anyone with this disease), but he is and always was a businessman, not a saint. To suggest that Mr. Jobs did not care about profit is silly. He returned to Apple in order to return it to profitability.

What I take issue with is the suggestion that somehow Canon should be "more like Apple" when people don't really think through the consequences of that kind of statement.

On this forum people endlessly debate the relative merits of esoteric technologies and standards. Some people actually get angry that Canon has so far been unable to produce a camera that shares or exceeds the human eye's ability to reconcile range, tone, speed, focus, etc. (in fact there are even those who get angry because Canon hasn't yet produced a sensor that exceeds the human eye in low-light sensitivity).

The fact is that each new generation of today's digital cameras are improving upon the image quality of previous generations. The quality and flexibility available today was completely unimaginable just a few short years ago when film dominated the marketplace.

This has happened because Canon and Nikon have not (at least so far) abandoned the quality-conscious consumer and professional markets, even though they could certainly do so and probably increase their profits and reduce costs. 

In contrast, Apple has undeniably "dumbed-down" the audio quality of recorded music. As a result of Apple's admittedly impressive ability to innovate and market its innovations, all of us are condemned to a marketplace where recorded music sounds less, not more, like real life.

I am able to enjoy my 7D and the quality of images it produces because Canon has integrated my narrow market segment into their business plan. I know they are doing that because it makes them money, but none-the-less I appreciate their investment in quality and willingness to serve a niche market.

Wherever I travel I see people happily snapping pictures with their phones and it reminds me what I dinosaur I am with my big, heavy SLR. I hope that there will always be a market for consumers like myself, but I have to admit I am fearful that "innovative" products like the iPhone and iPad will further erode the camera market. I really don't want photography to suffer the same fate that recorded music has, where "good enough" displaces great.

I may be on the path to extinction, but for the time being, I'm kind of happy that companies like Canon and Nikon continue to compete for my money.

Seems like you knew how to get right, sophisticated enough for your needs camera,  but you just don't know how to get good quality music, and this is Apple's fault in your mind?
If you desire, there are even vinyl still produced, CD's and digital music without any compression available.

Do you really expect educated enough consumer to run $30.000 sound system from the iPod, listen to downloaded Beethoven from iTunes? At the same token expect uncompressed 1 GB file on the teenagers iPod to listen lady Gaga on the school bus? Really?

I am really tired of this kind of flowed rhetoric that it is everywhere now, especially on all political sites.


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Canon General / Re: An article Canon should read.
« on: August 31, 2011, 01:04:25 AM »
Fascinating!
All kind of crawlers are coming out from under rocks to beat the drums against Apple.
Apple story is about the battle of true talent, genius and visionary against nepotism, establishment, cliques, and elitism in business.
If the critics only were sure that Jobs days are really counted! Unfortunately they still have to be wary that he just may stay alive and active long enough to influence Apple and eventually destroy couple more industries, yes just like photography.

It really is time to start investing in people that know how to create, innovate and deliver, especially in recent economy.
Your beloved "chosen" guy, with yellow arm pits will not cut it anymore, even with the help of industry giants like IBM and every lawyer in the family, to satisfy demands of the world.
It is time to just get over it, accept and use the lessons to make better things in the future, starting with replacing those well educated, soft spoken, but really dull characters from privileged circles as leaders.
Think for the moment and imagine where could we be if every company was as successful and innovative as Apple, what level of competition will be created in all industries, and what kind of inventions will be already here for everybody to enjoy.



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Street & City / Re: Waiting for Irene
« on: August 29, 2011, 08:51:31 AM »
For some it meant pure fun here in Florida, last Thursday afternoon of the Palm Beach.

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Great, everybody seems to be eager to pay price of a small car for a lens, glad you are doing so well.

Strange thing is that the photography is probably the only high tech industry where prices are climbing with time exponentially, just compare ti with the prices of storage, memory, computers, TV sets etc.
There is more to the story and certainly some elements of the healthy free market are missing in my opinion.

It amazes me that some users of this forum are bluntly conditioning us to accept the situation, wonder how many of you have said: "Since Nikon 200-400mm cost $7000 than, I expect Canon 200-400mm, "PLUS" 1.4 converter build in  (few such a nice professionally looking screws, levers and bell shaped forms) to cost no less than $11,000.00"
Let's write similar statements hundred more times on all forums and Canon will just surprise us in to submission  releasing this lens with $14,990.00 price tag, why not!

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argh!  why are these lenses so expensive??  I recently installed a new engine in a friends S10.  We paid $2100 for a brand new GM 2.2L engine, NEW, from the local GM dealership.  Think of how much metal, engineering, etc is in an engine.  For the price of ONE lens, we could buy three new engines!

I do not understand :-/  The time to precision-grind glass?   Umm...

LOL, I still want one!

Optical glass (high clarity glass) is not a cheap thing, and there's a lot of glass in these things!

Soon we will see lenses being sold by weight by karats if this glass will keep getting so expensive... or maybe this are the signs of something called monopoly, price fixing between very few players?

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Canon General / Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« on: August 24, 2011, 06:13:55 PM »
After the Walkman there was someting that made Sony genius(es) scratch its (their) head (heads): it's called iPod; followed by iPhone; followed by iPad; followed by...

Sony might be the "800 pound electronics industry gorilla" (to quote The Luminous Lanscape article)  but let's say that in photo, serious photo, they are not quite there yet. And they need not just one innovation, but a few dozens more.

My point is not to drop your current C or N gear just yet. If you think that the two old crows (Canon & Nikon) cannot  make a "wundercamera" you are quite wrong. They can. But it is not a matter of possibility & tech, but of price; you cannot have a 36 MP FF shooting at 20 FPS and at ISO 102000 or more and filming in  FULL HD (or maybe not, 21:9 or 2560/1080 will do great too - ouch, it was Philips that implemented that first hand and not Sony, right?...) for 2000 USD...

CANON EOS 1V (35 mm film SLR) was able to shoot at 10 FPS FF. A decade ago; with 45 AF points etc, tank-like construction etc; NIKON F6 - a monster camera; again, just think about price - here is the real war.

Cheers.

Z.

This is not some pissing contest or some funky brad loyalty issues.
Olympus, Panasonic or Samsung mirrorless cameras were not in any means a game changers, but this new Sony begins to be a serious problem, and really has potential to turn large portion of a market away from both, high end point and shoot and low to mid range SLRs.
Just give me one with compact super wide lens and, I will ditch my still bulky Rebel with his holster bag for ever, as my companion for daily walks with my dog to shoot opportunistic landscapes.

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Canon General / Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« on: August 24, 2011, 08:05:47 AM »
Exciting!
Really fascinating times are here already, thanks Sony... Can't wait for the market response, if only there will be some super wide angle lenses in reasonable sizes available for those.

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Software & Accessories / Re: To HDR or Not To HDR
« on: August 23, 2011, 12:30:02 AM »
I love the HDR look, even the "painterly" HDR look that puts emphasis on colorfulness instead of absolute fidelity to a scene.  But it doesn't really fit my working style and that's OK.  I have gotten used to working instead with deep black shadows that only suggest forms to shape the bright space left in the photos.

A lot of the time, like the cloud photos dr croubie mentions, or even just birds on branches - I often curse the inability of the camera and lens to capture all that detail in one exposure, but I've given up on bracketing with an eye to future HDR'ing.  Just peek the result and adjust if necessary.  Dynamic range is something I want more than anything else in the next generation of cameras (well, sensitivity could go up a bump too, but I actually am about where I need to be even at ISO 400 with f/2.8 and faster lenses).


This sounds really interesting to me:

"I have gotten used to working instead with deep black shadows that only suggest forms to shape the bright space left in the photos"

But makes me crave to see it!
I am new to this site, maybe everybody else knows your work, but it will be really logical in my mind if when a photographer describes their own work with words, would also post a small copyrighted sample of what they are talking about to, just to make things more understandable.
Thank you.

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Lenses / Re: Lens for a big sun in the pictures
« on: August 21, 2011, 10:55:21 AM »
Actually, the moon and the sun are two subjects that are great for mirror lenses.  They don't move very fast (manual focus, live-view), they're bright, and you won't see any bad bokeh.

As for 300/4, sure, that would be nice.  But it's an expensive lens, and you won't need aperture; you'll be stopping down!  So 70-300/4-5.6 gets you the same thing.  That said, you could mount a 1.4x TC on a 300/4.


That may be true, but not for $119.00 price, and 500-800 mm focal range. When you go in to some really large focal lengths, size and amount of heavy glass simply makes physically impossible to build classic telescopes.

This is a shot taken with the basic Meade ETX125 mirror lens which is 1900mm and f15, taken of the flimsy tracking mechanism and mounted on old and pretty heavy Benbo tripod. The moon do not fit in the frame so this is composite of two shots, at manual exposure of 1/500s, some adjustments for sharpness and noise reduction.


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Lenses / Re: Lens for a big sun in the pictures
« on: August 20, 2011, 03:04:37 PM »
Just a note on shooting the sun at long telephoto ranges. (and anything at those lengths)
The longer the lens the closer up you get to some of the weird things that happen in nature.
Atmospheric perspective, heat distortion, etc...
This will vary based on your location.  If I shot this in Antarctica there would be less distortion due to clearer air and  cooler climate.

1Ds Mark III + 600mm + 2X TC = 1200mm


Fantastic image!
Most people do not realize challenges involved shooting extreme tele or  astro photography, it is as involved and complicated as extreme macro or micro.
Of course apart from people that can invest some serious money in to it, but than again what's the reason for "glory" than.


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Canon EF Zoom Lenses / Re: Canon EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM
« on: August 17, 2011, 12:27:03 PM »
For me this is my preferred lens for portraits photography, here is the sample in very low light situation.
Thanks.

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Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon 50mm Æ’1.8
« on: August 10, 2011, 06:12:25 PM »
^ very cool photo!  How did you pull that off?

Thanks Chewy!

Simple set up in home made lightbox, with black paper as a BG, small piece, about an inch, of incense mounted with piece of clay behind this really tiny engine , two small strobes, 5D, tripod, and cable release.
Taken several years a go, don't really remember to many details, except for difficulties to keep the air still and all sort of try and error to cause interesting swirls in the air.

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