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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?

« on: January 26, 2013, 08:48:36 PM »

My core point is that all cameras have issues, the op picked up moire, the 5d3 will moire, as has any ccd or cmos camera I've used in the right (wrong) situation.

And The reason I never bought a 5d2 is exactly ad you've described,
ML had the hack as I was buying, but the wide angles were better (effective focal length for focal length) the jellio far less and the depth of field more managable, out the box pal, full hd video preview, better stills performance for my shooting etc etc.

If the answer is to buy a new camera then the question is all wrong.

Can't fix moire on a 6d not going to be able to fix it on s 5d3, when it inevitably will occur.

In the middle of making the business case for a pair of c100's and I'm considering one for my personal freelance kit.

Not the best codec, but for the occasions something above 8bit is required I'll hire a samuri.

For this specific shot, of those tiles eith that lens at that setting, a 5d3 MAY have been better.

But that really is missing the point.

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Lenses / Re: Can You Beat it?

« on: January 26, 2013, 06:24:36 PM »

Horsie one isn't great, just to show you the sharpness and bokeh the lens is capable of.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?

« on: January 26, 2013, 06:06:10 PM »

Sometimes XDCAM just hasn't the colour depth.

Sometimes a Digibeta or HDCAM is just too conspicuous.

Sometimes a Red runs too hot.

Sometimes a GoPro just isn't enough.

Every camera has concessions.  And the major concessions the 6D has, are nowhere near solved by having a 5D3.

It used to be the 5D2 bores.  Glad they've been more upwardly mobile this time.  If you are a 5D3 user and you want to pith all over the 6D's parade then have fun.  The guys shooting on C300's, Sony F's or Arri's haven't even noticed you are in the room.

It is all relative.  If somebody is capable of getting good video out of a 5D3, then they will be capable of getting good video out of a 6D.

Both the 6D and 5D3 are good video cameras, but the superiority complex 5D3 users really are having a big old laugh to themselves when it comes to moire etc.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Against the odds?, or Common sense...

« on: January 26, 2013, 12:17:43 PM »

Even when I was selling them I never got on that well with Nikons, i just found the EOS system transparent to use.
When it comes to automated slrs at least.  I liked the heft of the f4, just not the silly ways of getting to the more advanced functions, and I liked the feel of the f5 and the interchangable prisms, the rest you could keep.

A bloke in work was having bother with his newly acquired d80 and he would have been as well giving it to my brothers dugs to look at. 

With the exception of the clumsy (& inexcusable in the day of live view) manual white balance, its easy to set up any canon the way you want.   You'll love the 1dmk4, like all 1 series its a camera you can truely control at the eye.

To be fair, despite mp count, the d800 is pitched quite a bit lower than the 1d4 market.

Folk do great work with Nikons and great work with canons.
Anything as tactile as a camera has to fit the hand.  Perhaps this is more important than anything else when they all take great pictures.

Welcome to the club, you'll take better pics with a cam you enjoy using, and if thats a canon, great!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 7D - How bad is it? Really?

« on: January 25, 2013, 07:34:07 PM »

By "don't know how to use a camera" you mean they try to use a 7D at ISO 6400?  Because that certainly is not knowing how to use a 7D.

Correct about the 6400.  Not as good as cameras costing twice as much or four times as much.
But then thats not the budget the OP has.  For Sports use.  Within the OP's budget.  7D=best.

Most 7D moans originate from folk wanting better jpegs than they got from their 50D's.   And folk who thought they could shoot sports or nature, but when given a decent AF system with tweakability, wigged out.  And folk who thought spending more automatically meant better pictures.

I know the whole noise thing trickles down, in that if its well controlled at 6400 it's going to be far less at the everyday ISO's.

Apart from not really wanting to push the 7D beyond 3200, I can't actually think of an occasion when I had to push it beyond 1600.  I think this might be the old film user in me where less ISO is more.  Maybe because of my video work I'm just used to adding light, which I know isn''t practical or desirable for many.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?

« on: January 25, 2013, 05:49:34 PM »

Yes a 5d3 will fix all your issues.








































Pfffffffft.

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Lenses / Re: Can You Beat it?

« on: January 25, 2013, 05:44:41 PM »

Absolutely, take a punt, brilliant lens.

My first L and one of only two lenses I wish I'd never sold.

I could get good track day, speedway and jetski shots with this on an old xti.

Nicely built, compsct, light, fast, exceptionslly fast focusing with af liniter on.

Works a dream on centre spot af combined with af.

You'll find it a revelation how you'll find zoom rings a distraction after shooting on this lens.

Track BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM as fast as you can, track, track BAM BAM BAM

If I didn't need a zoom for video I'd never have sold mine.

Ask me nice and I'll post some results.

I would tell anybody to try one of these lenses.  I think at one point only the 135 f2 tested sharper, and by a baw-hair.

Get the tripod ring and it handles pans and tilts like its part of you.

I like it.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 7D - How bad is it? Really?

« on: January 25, 2013, 04:26:32 PM »

I have just bought a 5D3 to gain my wide angle ranges but I will still use my 7D to compliment it. You need to expose correctly and when you do, noise is NOT an issue, neither is sharpness if you have good glass and technique.

+1.

99% of folk who bitch about the 7D had upgraded from something simpler and didn't put in the work the 7D requires to deliver results.  A good camera doesn't make life easier, it makes reaching your potential easy.  A 7D set up right is a joy to use, and will deliver briliiant results.

I actually only bought my 7D because it was the first DSLR with a 25 PAL video mode.  But it made my photography so much more rewarding.

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Canon General / Re: Curious Distraction: Explain your username, avatar picture, etc...

« on: January 25, 2013, 04:22:38 PM »

Paulie Walnuts.  The best character from the Sopranos.  And I'm also a Paul.

The pic is me on my final year project when a student, so 10 years ago this May.  In the last year we had to do our projects on the ENG gear, which at the time I resisted  (if you go from a camcorder to an ENG camera it's quite a leap - black and white viewfinder - having to remember colour temperatures, setting timecodes, back focus acutally built into your lenses to screw you up) but ultimately led to me making my living today (as all ENG cameras be they Sony, Panasonic, Ikegami, JVC, Grass Valley whatever, have the essential controls in the same place)

In those days I shaved my hair because I could, these days as I look at my thinning temple I have no choice.

My pal Adam took this on my Canon EOS 5 (A2e), and the camera I'm holding is a Panny AJ-200E DVCPRO. 

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?

« on: January 25, 2013, 11:28:21 AM »

If you have the $1000 more to spend the 5D3 is great, but if not the 6D is a great alternative. We've been filming around moire issues for years with the 5D2 so saying the 6D isn't usable for shooting video is like saying a new Camry isn't drivable because it only goes just as fast as a Camry from a few years ago and not as fast as a new Lexus.

I've been using the 6D for video since it came out. My clients are happy with the results. Other shooters are constantly blown away by the low-light capabilities. If you absolutely have to shoot moire-inducing patterns regularly, and can't get around it by turning the in-camera sharpening off, tweaking focus, or pointing the camera somewhere else, you obviously know which camera to buy. Otherwise, if you can't figure out how to shoot a good video on the 6D spending the extra grand isn't going to help.

+1

Moire is potentially an issue on any camera, just so happens the roof tiles hit the magic pitch to annoy your sensor.  I get the same issue on XDCAMHD when I film anybody with a foxtooth patterned garment.   I remember having to butcher a PL filter and fit some stockings in place of the glass on the first firmware version of the VX1000.  And I combat moire regularly on my own two cameras and anytime I;ve used a hired 5D2.

So it's not an issue unique to the 6D.

I treat everything I shoot on a DSLR.  Bare minimum is a half pixel guassian blur over everything.  I can use up to 1.125 on something really bad.

Things that help:

Keeping everything progressive.  From your transcoding or interpretation, to your timeline field order to your output codec, to your DVD or BR burning.  Its a progressive camera, make sure everything else in the chain is progressive.  Don't a assume.  Check.

Marvels DSLR plug-in can help if applied with care.

If you have a locked off shot you can also selectively apply blur using garbage matting.

If none of this makes sense, then I've over pitched it.  You may have got a dud 6D.  You probably didn't.  And someday you'll hit a fabric or texture that does this to your 5D3.

Like titokane said, learn to shoot around it, via on camera settings and or how to fix it in post.

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Lenses / Re: Advice..what lens

« on: January 25, 2013, 06:23:49 AM »

The 17-40 is the most logical in terms of range.

Not a fast lens, wasn't stellar on my APS-C, and reviewed worse on full frame.

What about something with a faster aperture for the night stuff, say an off brand f2.8 zoom, or a canon prime?

Something like a 24mm f2.8 (non-IS perhaps if you can find one) or Tokina 16-28 f2.8, if you really want to go UWA!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Best carry set-up for 7D & 70-200 f/2.8L

« on: January 25, 2013, 05:01:13 AM »

I'm using the exact same set up (7D also gripped) and it fits perfectly in the base of a lowepro fastpack 250, with plenty of space either side for filters, batteries and a couple of smaller lenses.

I tend to shoot with a monopod for stills or a tripod, fig rig or monopod for video, so I usually have whatever plate is required on the lens tripod ring.

If I'm walking about shooting I'll keep the camera on my monopod at the lowest extension and with the safety catch double checked and carry it on my monopod, either by my side or over my shoulder.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Starting to work with RAW. Help?

« on: January 24, 2013, 09:05:30 PM »

Aperture is cheaper and probably a more logical progression from iphoto, however lightroom is more fully featured and adobe are more on the ball at keeping their raw codecs fresh (important if you are buying a new camera) there is a third way, which is photoshop elements.

If you are happy to do the heavy lifting as raw and save as jpeg then elements is great value.

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United Kingdom & Ireland / Selling used gear UK

« on: January 24, 2013, 11:50:27 AM »

Had it with a popular auction site.

Noticed a known scammer had bid on a lens and managed to cancel before sending lens or losing money, feedback rating decimated however and the popular auction site staff won't rescind, despite being presented with lots of evidence of scamming.

I know from my days of retail that I can expect no more than 50% of sellable value as a trade in, so can I ask, has any UK user had any success selling gear elsewhere.

By UK I mean United Kingdom.  Only answers from UK users, in the UK, who have sold stuff in the UK.

Thanks!

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Technical Support / Re: Very soft audio w external mike of EOD 5D3

« on: January 24, 2013, 09:22:14 AM »

But if the Tascam is where the sound engineers are sitting it will be very far from the camera. A cable between the Tascam and the camera would be too long I'm afraid, there would be too much loss.

It should be a nice hot line level out the back of a mixer, and XLR cable runs are pretty resistance to interference.

An ideal would be a mixer feed of the singers into one channel of the tascam, and your sony mic placed in a neutral position amongst your orchestra into the second channel.  Gives you clean feeds and the ability to post mix relative levels.  You'll have the camera audio to overdub and soften out some of the stringency, add audience reaction etc.

As far as I know with all the EOS cameras (except the dedicated video C - line) the audio is set prior to recording.  I use a beachtek into my camera as this adds on the fly attenuation, I set the camera level with the channels wide open and can then attenuate as required.  Adding level in post is easy enough so during a take my main concern is avoiding clipping.