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Canada / 6D arrives in Canada?
« on: December 02, 2012, 12:42:16 PM »
price has dropped $200 here as well:
http://www.adencamera.com/product-overviewer.asp?ProdID=4167&Category=6
http://www.vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/265138/canon-eos-6d-w-ef-24105mm-f4l-usm.aspx
http://www.henrys.com/73958-CANON-EOS-6D-D-W-EF-24-105-F4L-IS-LENS.aspx

Vistek and Henry's don't yet show in stock (I haven't called to verify) but it appears that Aden may have them. FS says "later this week" and only 126 units chain-wide, BestBuy will not carry the 6D in Canada. Has anyone managed to physically obtain a camera this weekend?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Alternative (to weddings) revenue stream
« on: November 30, 2012, 03:03:34 PM »
frankly, I don't even know why they give out finishing medals.  what the heck are you supposed to do with those things?  it's not like you won an olympic event.  you can't exactly put one on as jewelry to wear to a formal event (I guess you could, it would be hilarious and awesome).

Haha, yes.

Actually, that could be another race-related industry- scrap metal recycling.  ;)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Alternative (to weddings) revenue stream
« on: November 30, 2012, 02:38:00 PM »
A few comments from my peanut gallery. 

10Ks, Halfs and full marathons... YAWN.  Try Ironman competitions.   Yes.  I do all of these.

Hey, thanks for providing an example towards which I can aspire...   ;D


I have shot both Olympic Distance and Half Ironman distance races and the reason the photos are so much is the pass through of actual purchase is little.  There are several class of people who do these races, the "bucket-listers" who are looking to finish, the "weekend warriors" who are penny pinching to do as many races as possible, and then the pro/semi-pro who likes to have photos for FB, sponsors, etc. 


I appreciate you sharing your experiences, but I think you've missed a whole segment of the population. I can't provide any sort of scientific analysis but I can tell you with some certainty that there's a whole class of people - doctors, lawyers, airline pilots, accountants, police officers, firemen- for whom it's become a cultural thing. These people have organized clubs and social groups, posted to Facebook pages and created web sites.

Nobody takes it too seriously but at the same time they're doing 2 or three halfs (halves?) per year. My professional association sponsors one each spring plus a 5K in early summer. Many of these people would buy a photo each and every time if it was only ten bucks- it's a little more personal than the medal or the teeshirt. Being in the group photo to be posted in the corporate magazine has become de rigueur. Unfortunately, in our case these company trophy shots are still being taken with iphones and pocket cameras.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Alternative (to weddings) revenue stream
« on: November 30, 2012, 11:54:04 AM »
Guys, that's the BEST of the 3 or 4 I've purchased over the years taken from a dozen + races. 

And, Robbymack- I hear you-  +7°C in Vancouver drizzle, I remember the day well. Sure, I'd love for those guys crouched on the sidelines to be raking in $hundreds per hour. How do we make it happen? There's a demand but the system as it currently exists is not suiting the needs of the particpants or the photographers.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Alternative (to weddings) revenue stream
« on: November 30, 2012, 10:36:34 AM »
One tip - If you are unhappy with the images you have received from prior races, next race try to look out for the photographers and give them a good pose. When you make eye to eye contact, or eye to lens contact, put the afterburners on and give them a good show! If you give them a reason to push the FPS, they usually will! When I race I give my camera to someone who will be watching me anyways, so they usually snap plenty.
Well, my intent with this thread was a suggestion to help out all the starving pro photographers, but from a subject's view- valid points, but not always successful, unfortunately. IMO, more cameras in the hands of more professionals who cared more about their work would be a big help. For some events I'm solo in distant cities- so no friends to snap a souvenir to prove that I'm still cheating death and denying my rapidly advancing age.

At my last two races the photos were so bad that the event photographer should have been embarassed to offer them for sale (at the bargain-basement price of $60, no less)  On the other end of my personal spectrum, I travelled 2000 miles to run with highschool friends and I guess I should be grateful to have this to show for it:

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Alternative (to weddings) revenue stream
« on: November 30, 2012, 09:28:30 AM »
uh, yes. This is a feat I have been capable of.  :)

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Landscape / Re: Post Your Best Landscapes
« on: November 30, 2012, 09:25:32 AM »
I dunno... I'm thinkin' your colours are off...


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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Alternative (to weddings) revenue stream
« on: November 30, 2012, 09:08:06 AM »
This is a suggestion for discussion here- I’m not a pro photographer, and really- I don’t have a dog in this fight. But- for you pros out there struggling to make a living- here’s a photo need that isn’t being filled. As a bonus- it’s morning work and shouldn’t conflict with your wedding/event gigs.

In a true jack-of-all-hobbies, master-of-none vein- I’m a runner in addition to playing around with cameras. 5ks and half-marathons mostly, but I’d like to do at least one full marathon in my lifetime.

Anyway- these things, not so much the 5ks but definitely the half-Ms- are significant personal accomplishments after months of serious training. Racers collect teeshirts, buy pins, stay in hotels, travel on airplanes- all for the event. Many buy photos snapped of themselves by the “official” race photographers somewhere along the 21.1 or 42km courses. These courses are public roads or parks- open to all. The photos, as noted here last year in a different thread- are usually dreadful IF they happen to capture your bib number at all. And, worst of all- runners pay almost extortion prices for these terrible snap-shots.

I know that each race has an “official” photographer. But, since the courses are long and on public property- anyone has access to the event. If you’re a pro- why not stand somewhere at a convenient spot on the course with a teeshirt or sign-board on you and your assistant with your short, easily-remembered web address plainly visible to the runner? In addition- a meta-tag on your website should mention the race such that a search engine has no trouble pulling it up. Maybe go a little further and donate a couple thousand paper cups with your name on it for the aid (water) stations or pay the port-a-potty guy to put your poster on the side for the day.

Even if the photo hit rate is low- the Toronto Scotia typically has over 23,000 participants. Boston’s a little higher around 27,000 and there are 45,000 runners at the New York Marathon. There are many, many more races- in all cities and areas of the world.- Not just the major events- there are triathlons, "tough mudders", resolution races and the charity "run for the cure"-type events. Every metropolitan area has a dozen or two races over a year.  And, sure, there are already event photographers out there- but from a participant's perspective- they're not doing an adequate job and it should be a free market.

I’m not sure what dollar figure gets you out of bed in the morning, but maybe selling even only a couple dozen photos at $15 or $20 a pop is worth 2 or 3 hours of your time... Anyway, for your consideration.


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Canon General / Re: A Lion Eats an EOS 5D Mark II & EF 16-35 f/2.8L II
« on: November 30, 2012, 06:54:46 AM »
Until the lion bites bits off and swallows them, then that's not "eating", that's "gnawing".
Somebody tries to have a bit of fun and you're going to split linguistic hairs? Too bad you weren't able to enjoy the humour. As for your other comment- the site is provided to us gratis. I think scrolling past a few ads is a small price to pay.

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Canon General / Re: A Lion Eats an EOS 5D Mark II & EF 16-35 f/2.8L II
« on: November 27, 2012, 04:25:33 PM »
Ethan Meleg

He's the speaker at my local camera club Thursday night!

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Black Friday-> Red Thursday? (FS VIP Sale)
« on: November 20, 2012, 03:03:17 PM »
Thanks for the recommendations, Ishdakuteb. Unfortunately with the window of opportunity available to me- I'll be forced to stay fairly close to Long Beach.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Black Friday-> Red Thursday? (FS VIP Sale)
« on: November 20, 2012, 01:55:00 PM »
Not saying it didn't happen, but I've been shopping at that chain since they started back in the '80s and have never experienced any bait & switch issues. Best Buy bought them out a few years back and developed the curious strategy of placing the stores side by side. BB targets the average consumer, FS is supposed to be for technophiles although I'm finding that their camera people are less than knowledgeable these days. Neither chain carries the 5D3 in Canada but only FS will carry the 6D, BB tops out with the 7D.

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Pricewatch Deals / Black Friday-> Red Thursday? (FS VIP Sale)
« on: November 20, 2012, 12:42:15 PM »
No details, the flyer only states "up to $250 off on digital cameras". Pity they won't have the 6D until Dec 7th.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/vip-sale.aspx?cmp=lec-facebook

I'll be in LA friday, AFAIK- my first Black Friday in America... anyone suggest stores worth checking in the Long Beach area?

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Canon General / Re: New and improved Canon bodies in development?!
« on: November 20, 2012, 11:42:37 AM »
I dunno. Without seeing the exhaust outlet on that lens or knowing if the landing gear is retractable- the aerodynamics don't appear favourable  to qualify as "fast".

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Upgrade advice: 6D or 5D2/3?
« on: November 15, 2012, 11:05:04 AM »
I think you may be about 3 weeks early if asking for opinions on the 6D. I certainly can't provide you with expert advice, but I think at this point nobody else can, either.

(Nice photos, BTW.)

Thanks!  :)

It's not really about the opinions on the camera I suppose. Maybe I should put it more concisely... Purely from a specification point of view, is there any benefit of getting the 61-pt AF vs 11-pt AF for my use? Plus other features into consideration of course.

Despite some of the speculation here, I don't think anyone really knows how the AF on this camera is going to perform based on specs alone. Personally, I'm waiting for some in-depth reviews before I take the plunge.

*edit- sorry, I'm really not being helpful here. Probably someone else like Neuroanatomist could explain the technical advantage a 61pt system might hold over an un-tested 11 point system.

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