I would not read too much into it...As long as a lens is actively sold by Canon, it should be on that list... e.g. 70-200 f4L... since they must get returns all the time... seems like someone needs to do some web content clean-up.
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who cares what others call you or what annoys them.. do what pleases you.. live your life for yourself and not for the gratification of others...
-1. I have no idea what the cultural implications of this are in Malaysia, but simply telling someone to do whatever they want without a broader context is selfish and short-sighted.
PS: finally a thread regarding the 5d2 not related to "5d2 or 5d3?!?" or "should I wait?!?" LOOOOL....if you need FF make the jump now...sorry for the little rant LOL
I'd say that you don't even have to put "amateur" or "hobbyist" in front.
In my mind almost everyone who takes photos is a photographer. If you make your living with photography, I'd probably say "professional photographer".
..... manipulate the focal plane to go vertically rather than horizontal or every which way, but that's another topic for another day.
I'm coming to this discussion late, but thought I'd offer my experience. I bought a 7D early in 2011 to supplement my 5D classic.
There is no doubt that the 7D is a much faster handling camera than the 5D or I believe the 5D II. That's why I bought it. I always shoot RAW and use various programs for post processing. I typically shoot at ISO 100 or 200.
I had quite a bit of trouble getting images that I liked from the 7D at first. The images are definitely different than what my 5D classic produces. There is more detail, due to the additional megapixels, but there is also more noise. I had to get used to using more noise reduction for my RAW files and less sharpening. (Of course sharpening depends on the lens and other factors too.)
I decided to keep the 7D as a sports/action type camera, since the 5D is certainly not good for those subjects. I got the 7D as a refurb through the Canon Loyalty program so it was not terribly expensive.
Working with the 7D has made me really appreciate the image quality of the 5D. It's hard to describe exactly what it is that I like, but I will note that I can manipulate the tone curves a lot before the image starts to break down - much more so than with the 7D
So then with that said, how can you take a group portrait using the center point only for focusing on the 5D11? If that's the case, then everone off center will be out of focus...Thanks... and the fact that I almost always use Center point AF is why I never found the AF to be bad... by the way; is the 5d2 Af better than the 5Dc or are they the same (especially for Center).
The AF sensor is identical - Canon reused the same sensor from the 5D in the 5DII. But the 5DII uses Digic 4, whereas the 5D used Digic 2 - the newer and faster processor in the 5DII means the AF is slightly faster.
Well everything not on the same focal plane as what was focused upon from the center point... But then again that's where you use a smaller f-stop and try to get everyone in focus assuming that's what you want...
saving up for your 1dx?
Cash in hand, just waiting for B&H to start accepting pre-orders.
I got a 180L Macro for $910 a few weeks ago. Was in great shape and am VERY happy with that one.
If you centre spot the AF on the 5DII then you will get accurate AF. It is the focus points outside the center which are not good in low light and also the area the the A points cover is less than the 7D
In hindsight buying the 7D was a mistake as the IQ of the image is nowhere as good as the 7D, plus the bokeh is very poor. The 7D will get more in forcus pictures but none of them will be as good as the in focus 5DII picture
I got the 5d2 because I was sick and tired of waiting for the 5d3... going from a 7d to the 5d2 has been very humbling with the autofocus... Quality of file, when in focus, is great, but my lord, the AF in the 5d2 is like putting an Hyundai engine inside a Ferrari... It's truely a shame and I will be liquidating mine once the 5d3 comes out assuming it has better AF...
Just want to stress those photos are not mine, just examples of what the 7D can do with the requisite skill.
Ok a little more info. I thought maybe LR3 couldn't handle the 7D very well so I loaded up DPP... and got the same (if not worse) results...