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EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII will come
« on: November 22, 2011, 10:34:54 AM »
I would be happy if the 5DIII had 1D4 AF and 12800 iso.
But, it won't.  It will be lucky to have 7D AF. 

I agree that 5DIII would be lucky to have even 7D's AF. Here is why:

5DIII will be aimed at studio/landscape photographers. Of course they deserve a decent AF system with their camera, say one that is between 60D's and 7D's AF. But not more than that or Canon will shoot themselves with their own weapon. 1DIV's AF is way too advanced for a camera that won't even need it. This would also mess the Canon lineup. 1Dx sales could suffer, 7D's or 7DII's sales would suffer although they are aimed at totally different markets. Heck, even 5DIII's sales would suffer because of it's increased price (highly advanced AF would obviously cost more). Why would Canon take such a risk?

They would not want to put all killer features in one camera and sell it for $2500... Why would they? They want you to buy the flagship model for that, and for a price. They would want to keep a good distinction between all their cameras to ensure that they all bring in the maximum cash. Which I think is only fair given the R&D they are putting in their different products. I know these cameras are already different in so many ways (sensor size, pixel count, low-light capabilities, burst shooting, etc) but AF system has always been the key feature to keep them really separated.

People expect better AF in 5DIII and right so, 5DIII will have better AF. Because Canon would want the 5DII users to upgrade to the new model and they know that only better IQ/low-light performance in the new model won't cut it for many of us. So a slightly better AF is all they will offer.

Just my 2 cents...

Granted... if they want to stunt the 5d3, remove the video capture features and let people use the 60D or 300C etc for Video... Give us a  decent Still Camera with at least 5-6 fps, 5AEB bracketing, decent AF and ISO... Hopefully this is a fair trade-off.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII will come
« on: November 21, 2011, 09:47:39 AM »
D800 confirmed at 36 MP by NR.  Canon was right all along. More MP *is* better. That tears it. I'm selling all my Canon gear and switching to Nikon.

hehe ;)

Interesting times, love to see tech advancing! Nikon just tripled D700's pixel count, which surely will make some high-ISO fans unhappy... I wonder how many will switch to Canon now :D

I'd rather folks switch over to Nikon so I can get hold of nice glass on sale. Nikon guys coming here will drive up the prices of lenses...

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII will come
« on: November 18, 2011, 04:34:43 PM »
I'm just waiting for the 5D3 to come out so I can but the 5DII at a discount!

Realistically, what price do you expect for one in good condition after the 5d3 announcement?

EOS Bodies / Re: How often do you go through a body? Why do you upgrade?
« on: November 18, 2011, 04:31:25 PM »

I suppose I could have been shooting the 5D MkII now for half a year, with who knows how much longer from now until an upgrade path is available for it. But in any case, I am now committed to waiting for the next gen of whatever they decide to make to upgrade the small form factor FF body style. I cannot afford a 1D class body, I no longer need the fps they offer, and I don't want to extra bulk and weight in any case.


Was in same boat as you around Summer. So decided to get a used 5D1 and sell it when the 5d3 comes. Have been shooting with it for a few months and like it very much. If 5d3 is no good then might jump to a good deal on 5d2. (Since it uses the Magic lantern Firmware which gives me +/-7 AEB)

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII will come
« on: November 18, 2011, 10:51:38 AM »
It looks like most people are pretty damn happy with their 5D2s... There are just some quibbles about the ancient AF system really. Otherwise, fps, ISO, mp... all up to par. Really, if the 5D2 was introduced last year, it would still make sense in the Canon lineup. If the 5D3 is just going to bump up the mp and ISO a bit and largely leave the AF alone, then I say I'd rather wait another year or so and get a 5D that will have a significantly upgraded AF instead of getting one in the next 6 months that upgrades everything just a bit but still leaves me wanting more. And out another $3k lol. What do you think? Is the 5D2 so terrible now that we need an minor upgrade on things we're mostly happy about right now?

I don't think Canon are going to just up the MP and ISO while jumping the price to $3k. I expect Canon are going to be putting in a lot of effort in making sure that the 5D3 is going to still be head and shoulders above any other camera in it's category eg. D800.

The one thing going concerns do; is ensure sustainability.

One would think that if they made the 5D3 such a superior product, it would cannibalize other canon models, (higher margin offerings) secondly would be hard for them to show improvements in a 5d4 etc. As Neuro would put it, if one plotted the value propositions; it would be close to a second order polynomial  :P, and a very high value 5d3 would be a distraction to the progressive market segmentation they have tried to create.

I suspect they will make it very close to the D800 in terms of a value proposition. Again thinking sustainibility.

EOS Bodies / Re: How often do you go through a body? Why do you upgrade?
« on: November 17, 2011, 01:57:12 PM »
I'm amazed at how many of you change/acquired so many lens and cameras in such a short period of time.

I wish I had that luxury  :'(

Buy and sell used...

e.g. I bought the 1d2 for $875 then sold it for $831 after 5- months... for $44 extra spending, What I got was a a wonderful experience  :D

EOS Bodies / Re: How often do you go through a body? Why do you upgrade?
« on: November 17, 2011, 01:55:13 PM »
Of digital SLR bodies I've had and used, I've had the D30, 10D, Digital Rebel, Digital Rebel XT, Digital Rebel XTi, 20D, 30D, 40D, 1D MK II, 1D MK III, 5D, 5D MK II, and the 7D over the past 10 years.  Usually at least two at the same time.  Most of them I bought used and sold them after a year for more than I paid, but my 5D MK II will be three years old in about three weeks.  I also had a Kodak DCS 620, but it was mostly as a collectible, and not used other than to test.

In order of IQ, I'd say 5D MK II, 1D MK III, 7D, 1D MK II was what I saw.  Certainly the 1 series cameras have a lot more going for them besides IQ, the ability to AF at F/8 or even f/11 (with stacked TC's) is a huge plus, and will be missed with the 1Dx, if I decide to get one.

- Kodak DC-120 1997 went kaput in 2001
- Nikon CP-4500 2002 went kaput in 2005... decided to go Canon
- 350D / Rebel XT  Oct 2005 Gave to daughter in 2011, still works just fine.
- 1D mk.II Mar 2011
- 5D Sep 2011 (Sold 1D2)

I found the IQ of the 5D much superior to the 1d2. However performance wise the 1d2 was much better. On RAW's the 5d is slightly better, but in jpegs it sweeps the 1d2 away.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII will come
« on: November 14, 2011, 04:55:24 PM »
Personally I am not in a much hurry! My 5DMkII is fine! I would want a better AF system, (real) weather resistance and even better noise handling (we can never have enough I guess...). I cannot understand however why suddenly 21Mpixels are not enough. Just my opinion... To stay on topic 100% I would guess photokina (as has happened with the previous series 5 cameras...)

Good thing that banding does not bother you. Enjoy the Mk.II,  8) it has many thing s going for it.

SanDisk dropped the price for their Extreme and Extreme Pro CF cards.  Does that mean they're about to release Extreme MkII and Extreme Pro MkII cards?  Or, maybe...just maybe...it means some bean-counter decided there was more profit to be squeezed from well-established production lines by selling more product at a cheaper per-unit price.  Hmmmmm...

We need to ask the Sandisk-rumors guys about how long they have been speculating about the  Extreme Mk. II..

With the floods and Tsunami, it's been a very different year. Predictions have been all over the place. Before the 1dx, has Canon ever announced a Camera with over 6 month delay in shipments?

If they annouce a 5d3 now, and cannot deliver till mid summer, they put a dent in current 5d2 sales... realistically, the plant that got hit hard by the tsunami was their high end product maker...

Guys... relax, I don't think anyone is getting a 5d3 in their hands for the next 8-9 months. I hope I am wrong.

EOS Bodies / Re: Sudio pictures
« on: November 11, 2011, 03:52:14 PM »
What lenses do you have? You get a little bit more background OOF / Bokeh for the same lens/ framing set-up compared to the 1D3. The FF gives you better options as a walkaround Camera in terms of bokeh/wider framing. I am not sure if in a studio setting you will get much benefit doing to a 5 body from a 1 body.

Maybe better noise on the 5D3.  Can't sat much without knowing whats coming with the 5D3 either. Then again, in a studio, you control the lighting, so ISO bandwidth or low noise are not as important as in an uncontrolled environment like a wedding photographer would sometimes have...

EOS Bodies / Re: World's priciest Photograph... bland
« on: November 11, 2011, 12:52:37 PM »
Well... one thing is fore sure... Gursky would not shoot with a lowly MP Camera...  ;)

Canon General / Re: Is anyone awake in Canon HQ?
« on: November 11, 2011, 10:50:06 AM »
Save the "pixel quality" and "sensor noise" arguments for the summer BBQ parties.

How about the shallower DoF that's possibly with a FF sensor and not an APS-C sensor argument?  What's the longest focal length I can get in an f/2.8 lens for my A77?

I don't think OP is saying Sony or the A77 is better, I suspect he wants a 5D3 to be released now at less than $2k... he is like the rest of us  :P

Canon General / Re: Price increase
« on: November 11, 2011, 10:45:33 AM »
The minimum wage component in the final price is miniscule. It should be dwarfed by other factors like currency exchange parity, Canon / Dealer margins etc.

EOS Bodies / Re: World's pricient Photograph... bland
« on: November 10, 2011, 05:16:29 PM »
Did some research... he shoots Film, so the prints are one of a kind... I get it a bit now... ???

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