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Does the MkII offer such better performance and quality over the MkI to warrant the $1000 investment?
And remember, while we are all calling the 70-300L a lightweight, or lighter than the 70-200, at 1kg it still gives your arm a nice little workout if you are hand holding it for substantial lengths of time.
One other thing I am not overly happy about with the 70-300L, and it is a very small issue, is that you cannot lock or unlock the zoom if the hood is reversed. It only matters from time to time (like when you are preparing to pack the camera away and suddenly you need to take a shot of something), but it would have been great if you could lock and unlock from an area that the hood does not cover when reversed.
Great write up: On the above quote there's an easy and cheap solution
It might be cheap, but it's not 100% easy: You cannot take off or put on the lens hood when the filter extender is screwed on, and putting on a filter through the lens hood barrel might is a hassle. I have a 67mm filter and thus didn't try it, but it looks as 77mm ones might just fit into the hood. I guess 82mm is too large, or you have to shoot w/o hood (bad idea because of flares and less lens protection). Maybe someone who has actually tried it can tell for sure?
3) The hood, filter mount and lens extension....the hood "looks" cheap....no fancy tulip design, it's a straight up barrel. It just looks dumpy...but it works. The filter mount is 67mm which means it does not fit the filters I use with the 70-200mm or several other lenses I have...so if you use polarizers or ND's, just know you might be buying more to fit it. Note the lens is not internal focus and extends 2.11" at 300mm full zoom.
Interesting, I'll be watching for other testers and see what they say. It looks like 70mm is the weak spot.
I have both the 5dc (classic) and 5d3. I loved my 5d, worked great but I couldn't' push it higher than 1250 in low light before I have no detail or the grain is too unbearable. Everything lower than 1250 is great, especially when you have tons of light to work with. Used 5d and 7d to shoot a rodeo event over this last summer, great pair. The only thing that I wished the 5dc had was a slightly larger screen, and slightly higher fps. But this is an ancient camera (relative terms) but its still a good camera. Just sold my 5dc and I am stoked with my 5d3. If you can't get 5d3, get the 5dc! Price couldn't be better.
What what what, RL Photo said he doesn't hesitate to shoot ISO 3200 on the classic? yeah... I think your findings are more in touch with reality for the classic. =)
I guess some are just more brave than others.I even shoot ISO 6400 on my 7D and sometimes H1. Sometimes I even add grain to my Low ISO photos.
Ok I will bite..If you want the full frame advantage and dont plan to do video, BUY A 5Dc! Its a Superb camera and can be found for under 900$! It will complement your 7D perfectly and you can decided later if you REALLY want a 5d3.
It is a great cam... or was... I sold mine a few weeks back. The ISO performance of the 5dc got beat at 800/1600 by a T2i I borrowed from a friend, telling him how nice FF does on ISO... boy was that awkward when we compared shots... but it is an FF sensor.....
I Disagree.The 5Dc has the exact same ISO performance as my 7D, just full frame.
Even if ISO performance is same with the 7D/T2i ... a lot of the FF Advantage is gone. What you are left with is more OOF blur, the width/length advantages is a wash. Plus the additional cost of EF lenses needed for FF... I think the biggest advantage FF has is better ISO handling, if it is the same as the T2i/7D... then why bother?
Quite simple, The thread stated that newjerseykita already had full frame lenses. So when he asked for a camera to START into the full frame advantage, Such as Nice OOF blur I Highly recommended the 5D classic. Its half the cost of a 5DII or the 3500$ price tag of the 5D3 but would get Kita into the full frame world.
Really, I could buy a used 5Dc + 50mm 1.2L at the price of the 5DII body or even the 5DIII body. Also, I've shot with the mark II and is a great camera but Not for 2000$. (its AF is essentially the same as the 5Dc). With modern noise reduction programs like Lightroom, I do not hesitate to shoot at ISO 3200 on my 5Dc.
IMHO, For someone who wants full frame but Cant justify a MKII because its AF but is wondering if the 5D3 is really worth 3500$, The 5Dc is the obvious choice.
Ok I will bite..If you want the full frame advantage and dont plan to do video, BUY A 5Dc! Its a Superb camera and can be found for under 900$! It will complement your 7D perfectly and you can decided later if you REALLY want a 5d3.
It is a great cam... or was... I sold mine a few weeks back. The ISO performance of the 5dc got beat at 800/1600 by a T2i I borrowed from a friend, telling him how nice FF does on ISO... boy was that awkward when we compared shots... but it is an FF sensor.....
I Disagree.
If you want the full frame advantage and dont plan to do video, BUY A 5Dc! Its a Superb camera and can be found for under 900$! It will complement your 7D perfectly and you can decided later if you REALLY want a 5d3.
Can't Canon release a firmware that can give the 5D Mark III 1080p 60fps?
K-amps - I might disagree when you refer to the D800 when you sayQuoteIf you are into Macro. Nikon doesn't have anything like the MP-E 65 lens. It is the king of kings for serious macro shooters with a 1x-5x magnification. Getting the essential MT 24-EX flash makes this an incredible setup (5D Mkii, MP-E 65 and the MT 24EX). I'm just waiting for the 5D MKiii like others as I am anxious to take photos with this setup. PS let's not forget the razor sharp 100mm IS USM L 2.8 with 1x macro as well.