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Sports / Re: Indoor cycling
« on: February 13, 2012, 02:47:09 AM »
For #3, you could try to get closer the next time to get the facial expression. Note sure if its the compression ( it often happens ), but the picture seems a little out of focus ??

Sports in general is not very effectively conveyed from a distance unless there is a 'context' to what you want to portray.  This applies to pict #1.

For pict #2, you could try to increase the shutter a wee bit more so as to at least get the face into sharp focus.  Extreme low shutter speeds do not work if your panning cannot keep up with the subject. Again, not sure if the compression in the image affected the sharpness though ??

Hope the comments will be constructive for you.  ;)

An example:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee89/KangSw/OCBC%20Cycle%202010/_MG_0570.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee89/KangSw/OCBC%20Cycle%202010/_MG_0170.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee89/KangSw/OCBC%20Cycle%202010/_MG_0607.jpg

Thanks for the feedback!  I'm fairly on my own here, so although they cyclists usually like my photos, having some constructive feedback from a photographer is much needed/appreciated.  Yeah, the jpg compression definitely softened these a bit, and I may have also been a little heavy handed in my noise reduction.  In #2 the face actually is fairly sharp in the RAW file, which is what I thought made it a cool pic--motion blur on everything except his face. 

Far and away the biggest struggle here was the lighting--even at f/2.8 and iso 3200 I was dealing with shutter speeds of maybe 1/160 which is pretty tough to stop a cyclist, and then I'm fighting with the small DOF.  I tried a few flash photos, but just hated how those looked.  But I'm not sure I have a clue how to effectively use a flash... :-[

Not quite sure what you're saying about context for #1.  It was supposed to be "orange guy off the front".  I found for this event I really struggled to find any way to capture "feel"--it was an indoor field about 150x100 yards and they raced a big "U" shape and there was never much of a pack.

As far as "getting closer" on #3, I've tried that, but I feel like if there isn't some part of the bike in the shot, it loses all context and just looks like a person in a funny looking helmet.  I actually do have some shots of individual cyclists that are much closer, but I picked this one as it was showing the two teammates working together.  Is there something else I could have done with this shot, or is it simply not that great of a shot?

They have one more indoor race in 2 weeks, so if there are specific things you would recommend I try/adjust, that would be awesome!  Thanks again!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Split? 5D X & 5D Mark III [CR1]
« on: February 10, 2012, 06:23:32 PM »
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why shoot sRaw? just shoot raw and downsize.. I never understood shooting at a quality less then your camera could provide..

Images would take up more space on memory cards, resulting in more memory card changes during a shoot. Images would take more time to download, then time spent downsampling and converting to a new file and erasing the original. Time is money...

Raw versus sRaw - This goes beyond just memory cards.  How many harddrives can you afford if only shooting full sized Raw?

SRaw is fine for many purposes.  I mean really, how many weddings or portrait shoots result in people wanting larger than a 20x30 print?  Generally for non-art shoots, I go with sRaw on my 7D - and sometimes when i do shoot art i forget to switch back to full size RAW.  I've done 20x30 prints from sRaw files, and they look pretty damn good!


http://chuckalaimo.com/

I suspect that I take/keep as many pictures as most, and with the RAW file from a 7D, a $100 3TB drive that stores roughly 167,000 images will last me for awhile.  And the $100 is pretty insignificant in terms of photography expenses.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Latest Canon disappoints wants me to switch over to Nikon.
« on: February 10, 2012, 05:50:41 PM »
I would wait until I need to change not because I would like to change.

Gotcha this time!  Unless you're putting bread on the table and a roof over your head with your photography, you don't need to take pictures.  We do it because it's fun, rewarding, self-expressive, etc,  but us non-pros don't need a camera at all.   ::) 

So whether it's a want for better AF, more MP, or simply something that doesn't have scuff marks on it, there are plenty of consumers looking for a new camera right now.  As RuneL points out, there is always something theoretically better just on the horizon, so waiting for the next great thing can be a never ending process.

If it just weren't for the investment in the dang glass, it'd be easy to be more brand agnostic and go with whatever seems good when I want a new camera.   ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Latest Canon disappoints wants me to switch over to Nikon.
« on: February 10, 2012, 05:04:09 PM »
I cant believe that people are getting ready to jump ship when neither body has had a full review and neither is shipping.

OK - talk through this scenario then:

One buys the D4 and loses a whole bunch of money on the lens etc

A month later the 1DX is reviewed and shown to be hands down better than the D4

What would you do next?

    - go back to Canon and lose more money?
    - suffer an inferior product for the next 2 or 3 years until the replacements are announced?

I agree, when you're talking about the 1DX vs. the D4.  But as Neuro pointed out elsewhere, if you're comparing the D800 to....?  The 5D Mk II?  Canon needs to have some sort of announcement before that thing starts shipping or we're stuck waiting for a body that might never arrive.

The same argument applies - if you have a 5DII do you NEED to move in the next couple of months or can you wait patiently to see what happens for a couple of months? Making the wrong decision based on short term desire might cost a lot more than waiting

Sorta.  But how long do you wait?  People have been expecting the Mk III to appear any minute now for at least a year.  So yeah, we would HOPE that something is coming soon, but there by no means a guarantee.  That's why I think Canon needs to at least announce something soon or people are just going to be too tired of the waiting.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Latest Canon disappoints wants me to switch over to Nikon.
« on: February 10, 2012, 04:29:30 PM »
I cant believe that people are getting ready to jump ship when neither body has had a full review and neither is shipping.

OK - talk through this scenario then:

One buys the D4 and loses a whole bunch of money on the lens etc

A month later the 1DX is reviewed and shown to be hands down better than the D4

What would you do next?

    - go back to Canon and lose more money?
    - suffer an inferior product for the next 2 or 3 years until the replacements are announced?

I agree, when you're talking about the 1DX vs. the D4.  But as Neuro pointed out elsewhere, if you're comparing the D800 to....?  The 5D Mk II?  Canon needs to have some sort of announcement before that thing starts shipping or we're stuck waiting for a body that might never arrive.

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EOS Bodies / Re: When do you expect to see CR3 rated 5D/3D rumors?
« on: February 10, 2012, 03:43:53 PM »
In May, 1987, they launched the EOS 620, an upgraded version of the EOS 650.  So, if you're right and Canon marks the 25th anniversary of EOS with a 5DIII, will they stick to historical prececent and launch a 5DIV two months later?   :P

Yes, maybe we'll start seeing 5D upgrades as often as we see Firefox upgrades.


You mean Adobe updates... ::)

Starting to feel more like Notepad updates!

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« on: February 10, 2012, 02:41:56 PM »
Perhaps we need to stop judging the performance of the D800 until full reviews are done - and compared to the Canon new line up - not the 4 year old 5DII

I just hope Canon doesn't miss the opportunity for this to happen because people get tired of waiting and move to "the dark side".   :o

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Split? 5D X & 5D Mark III [CR1]
« on: February 10, 2012, 11:59:45 AM »
The one thing I've been failing to understand with all the 5D replacement spec rumors is why a high MP camera (be it a single model or one of two) would have anything near pro-grade AF. Normally AF is a huge differentiating factor between lines and would pump the cost up quite a bit, but any camera with high MP is clearly being marketed to a studio/landscape/macro crowd in which AF performance is far less important.
The aerial photography crowd needs pro-grade AF along with high MP.  :)

You and your aerial photography again...just buy a decent spy satelite already!   ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: When do you expect to see CR3 rated 5D/3D rumors?
« on: February 10, 2012, 11:27:34 AM »
So now we're starting rumors about rumors?   ??? ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does Canon respond to the D800?
« on: February 10, 2012, 10:47:10 AM »
Cost to me? - a few DVDs a week when I had over the pictures - you cannont buy experience like that.

But you also cannot buy new gear on that.   :-\ 

It sounds like your "work" is somewhat similar to mine (at least regarding the race), but I've managed to get a few bucks back into my pocket to help "support the habit" aka buy new gear.  The way I've been doing it is that the race director has free access to all my photos, but sales to the athletes go to me.  No expense to the race, plus they get free photos, but I'm getting the experience and not just volunteering and putting $ directly into someone else's pocket.  Even on the work I do for my cycling team where I've gotten "wow, how can I pay for this photo" and I tell them just to donate to the team, the bigger ticket purchases (8x10s and a few poster size prints) have the revenue to me.

I like your period shots for the Dickens Society and your street image!  Me--I can't seem to shoot anything but sports.   :-[

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EOS Bodies / Re: CP+ 2012
« on: February 09, 2012, 06:18:34 PM »
or throw down against another photographer...
crazy russians

Wow.  If that doesn't put the fear into wedding photography, nothing will!  Thanks for scaring sharing!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Latest Canon disappoints wants me to switch over to Nikon.
« on: February 09, 2012, 05:59:58 PM »
No, you make a fantastic point.  Canon should invest millions of dollars into engineering a lens for the 15 people that shoot under those conditions. 

I will say this though, that post was more about frustration than arrogance.  The whole backlash against Canon over this lens and no 5D3 (currently) is quite widespread, and based completely in ignorance.  Seeing
it over and over again everywhere... and now an entire thread devoted to this stupidity, it's like road rage.
So, if it came off as arrogance, I apologize, only for that.  The tone was of frustration, but it does not change
the content of my posting, which is based completely in logic. 
 

And being "based completely in logic" isn't arrogant?  Your logic is complete and infallible?  I want to be just like you when I get to be 15 too!   :-X

Sorry to the rest of you--I seem to have a small/non-existant tolerance today for people who know everything (except of course for Neuro, who actually DOES know everything!   ;D )

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PowerShot / Can't wait for D20
« on: February 09, 2012, 05:17:09 PM »
Our cycling team's spring training trip is at the end of March, which means it precedes the D20 release.

I need (aka want) something that I can just throw in my jersey pocket to have along for the ride.  Although I think it would be good to have waterproof/dropproof, is it really necessary?  How durable is the S100--would it be at risk in a cycling jersey pocket?  What about the D10--is it any good or would it feel pretty outdated?  Any other thoughts suggestions?

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does Canon respond to the D800?
« on: February 09, 2012, 04:36:02 PM »
My role (unpaid as I am now an amateur) is just to deliver the processed images.

Well charge them, and then you're a pro!   ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: How does Canon respond to the D800?
« on: February 09, 2012, 02:34:47 PM »
I'd have thought that the biggest issue in that situation is the initial sorting/culling of the files - you're not going to need, use (sell?) all 3,000.

How many images in that scenario will you eventually end up using? Less than 100? Less than 50?

"Using"= making available to the athletes for personal purchase, so all 3000--which is the culled list out of likely 5000+ shots.

Brain, yup, single sport event with a couple hundred athletes have a whole lot more "breathing" time, but 2 hours to get CD to organize--YIKES!?  I try to get a top hundred shots posted by end of the day, but takes the rest of the week to get thru them all.  What race are you shooting?

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