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EOS Bodies / Re: Will anti-aliasing filters doom even forthcoming Canons to early obsolescence?

« on: January 30, 2012, 05:30:09 PM »

I've wondered about that myself. www.maxmax.com offers the following service for existing bodies;
HR: High Resolution/Hot Rod.  AA (Blur)/IR Cut Filter (ICF) filter removal and replacement with a new custom ICF.

Has anyone tried this? Big difference?

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 25, 2012, 02:25:43 PM »

I've been looking at something in the mid 20s range and will probably get the new Zeiss 25mm f/2.  I'd consider a Canon, but I don't they don't make a 24 f/2L.

I don't understand this...Canon makes a 24mm f/1.4L II, and it can be used at f/2, of course.  Since that's a stop narrower than wide open, at f/2 you'd get the optical benefit of not using a lens at it's widest aperture.  The Zeiss lens is not much larger or heavier than the Canon, and the Canon lens is weather-sealed and has autofocus.

I was joking - sort of, but I really do like the look of the pictures from my Zeiss 35mm - can't put my finger on it.  I personally don't care that much about autofocus or weathersealing. You're right though - the new Zeiss is a beast and pricier than the Canon.  I'm actually still weighing my options.

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 25, 2012, 08:29:08 AM »

Should think It would have more affect on the need for fast wide angle primes!  Really any need for a 24mm 1.4 anymore?

Have you ever used a 24 f1,4 L II on a fullframe body?? The look of the picture you get at that wide angle and that shallow depth can't be done by anything else.

Nope, never have, but I would certainly love to see an example of a real world shot using the 24 1.4 wide open [out of 100 shots - how many @ 1.4?] compared to ones shot at f2 or even 2.8 - real difference? care to share?  Anyway, I didn't really mean to suggest that nobody would want the faster wide angle lens, but they are pricey, big and the DOF advantages aren't as obvious [compared to telephotos].  I'm simply surmising that many [most?] folks will find less need for them as high ISO performance improves.  If Canon made a nice 24mm f2 L - I'd be all over it!

I'll go out on a limb and predict that across the board - high ISO cameras will increasingly cannabalize [not eliminate] the sales of fast [zoom and prime] lenses for ALOT of shooters - how could it not? Size and price really do matter!

Here's how my son looks when I tell him something he doesn't think is true, the skeptic look

http://photobyviggo.com/random/mail31.jpg

Shot with the 50L on a 5d @1,2

Like it, nice shallow DOF, but with a 50, not the 24mm.  I currently use the Zeiss 35mm f/2 the most and have personally never felt the need for anything faster, but it appears a good case can be made for the 1.4 wide angles even with the high ISO bodies.  I've been looking at something in the mid 20s range and will probably get the new Zeiss 25mm f/2.  I'd consider a Canon, but I don't they don't make a 24 f/2L.   

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 24, 2012, 01:05:41 PM »

Nice shot; so to my point, two questions for you [very unscientific poll];
1. Do you believe this shot be any different/better at f/2?
2. Would you have bought a 35mm f/2L instead if available? All else being equal - build quality, etc. Presumably cheaper with smaller filters?
Just curious.

Thanks!

I'd say worse, because there would be less OOF blur, which is what I was going for.  Attached below are a pair of simlar shots, the first at f/1.4, the second at f/3.2 - not a test, just playing around.  Both are with the 5DII and 35L.  I prefer the wider aperture, personally.  Note that you can't make out the face in the background at all with f/1.4, while I find it distracting at f/3.2.

I don't think I'd have bought a 35/2L if available - faster is better, for aperture if not ISO.  In the shot above, I was at ISO 100 - clearly, I had a lot of freedom to bump that up (I find ISO 3200 usable on the 5DII, be even conservatively saying ISO 1600, that shot could have been taken at f/5.6 instead of f/1.4 with the same shutter speed.  Filter size?  I actually prefer the 72mm - it's the same size as the 85/1.2L II and the 135L, meaning the same 3-stop ND filter works on the entire 'holy trinity' and a 3-stop ND is just right for outdoor, wide open portraits and/or overcoming the sun with flash.

OK - good points, thanks for sharing.  Guess I'll have to rethink my assumptions.

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 24, 2012, 12:44:37 PM »

I would certainly love to see an example of a real world shot using the 24 1.4 wide open [out of 100 shots - how many @ 1.4?] compared to ones shot at f2 or even 2.8 - real difference? care to share?

Well, I don't have the 24L, but I do have the 35mm f/1.4L...


EOS 5D Mark II, EF 35mm f/1.4L USM, 1/30 s, f/1.4, ISO 100

Nice shot; so to my point, two questions for you [very unscientific poll];
1. Do you believe this shot would be any different / better at f/2?
2. Would you have bought a 35mm f/2L instead if available? All else being equal - build quality, etc. Presumably cheaper with smaller filters?
Just curious.

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 24, 2012, 08:12:59 AM »

Should think It would have more affect on the need for fast wide angle primes!  Really any need for a 24mm 1.4 anymore?

Have you ever used a 24 f1,4 L II on a fullframe body?? The look of the picture you get at that wide angle and that shallow depth can't be done by anything else.

Nope, never have, but I would certainly love to see an example of a real world shot using the 24 1.4 wide open [out of 100 shots - how many @ 1.4?] compared to ones shot at f2 or even 2.8 - real difference? care to share?  Anyway, I didn't really mean to suggest that nobody would want the faster wide angle lens, but they are pricey, big and the DOF advantages aren't as obvious [compared to telephotos].  I'm simply surmising that many [most?] folks will find less need for them as high ISO performance improves.  If Canon made a nice 24mm f2 L - I'd be all over it!

I'll go out on a limb and predict that across the board - high ISO cameras will increasingly cannabalize [not eliminate] the sales of fast [zoom and prime] lenses for ALOT of shooters - how could it not? Size and price really do matter!

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 23, 2012, 04:00:16 PM »

Should think It would have more affect on the need for fast wide angle primes!  Really any need for a 24mm 1.4 anymore?

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Canon General / Re: Canon scores 6 of top 20 DSLRs in Japan for 2010

« on: December 29, 2011, 10:54:45 AM »

Maybe not 'dominate', but mirrorless have 8 of the top 20 - thats pretty impressive. I don't get it, but evidently alot of folks do. Percent of sales is nice, but how many units does that actually represent? Do we have total sales figures? How does that compare to P&S types?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Why not 16bit?

« on: December 14, 2011, 10:04:31 AM »

Maybe the best we can hope for in the near future is an integral software solution - hit the shutter release - camera takes 3 bracketed shots and combines automatically. Should be doable.

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Lens Gallery / Re: Canon Body Nikon Glass!

« on: November 20, 2011, 02:57:03 PM »

Yep, most of my wide angle primes are Nikon glass - Canon just doesn't appear interested in this segment. You can get several versions of many of their telephotos, but wide angles; large, pricey f/1.4 L glass or old/poor build/so so IQ ones - no contest.

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Lenses / Re: Future standard changes to canon L series wide-medium primes and zooms

« on: November 18, 2011, 09:30:42 PM »

.. and the prices will continue to climb! 

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Lenses / Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon

« on: November 01, 2011, 10:38:58 AM »

To me a 12-24 f/4 with better sharpness would have much more appeal than an 14-24 2.8.

Agreed. There are many Nikon 14-24s for sale and almost invariably the seller says - too heavy, too big, no filters ...

You'll always find people that don't like a certain lens. I for one have been waiting for Canon to finally release a 14-24 f2.8 for a long time.

That might be an interesting poll - how much does size/weight factor into buying decisions [assuming cost doesn't figure into it, e.g. the 2.8 lens is pricier than the 4]? I've read many people say they are put off by the size/weight of this or that lens - like your 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8. Obviously not a problem for you, but for others?

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Lenses / Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon

« on: October 31, 2011, 08:09:36 PM »

To me a 12-24 f/4 with better sharpness would have much more appeal than an 14-24 2.8.

Agreed. There are many Nikon 14-24s for sale and almost invariably the seller says - too heavy, too big, no filters ...

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Lenses / Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon

« on: October 28, 2011, 12:00:17 PM »

As long as it's not a nikkor 'G' lens, they're stuck wide-open using an adapter

adapter with aperature control available - expensive. possible since diaphragm is mechanically actuated

Ooh, looks good, although damned expensive.
Just gotta wait a while until china picks it up and makes their own for $20.
would be very nice on some lenses, most new nikkors are 'G', look at the performance difference of their 85/1.4 G and non-G, the 'G' beats the samyang and sigma versions easily.

already have
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-G-lens-Canon-EOS-EF-adapter-7D-5D-II-60D-550D-/250918885947?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6bee5a3b

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Lenses / Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon

« on: October 27, 2011, 11:51:59 AM »

As long as it's not a nikkor 'G' lens, they're stuck wide-open using an adapter

adapter with aperature control available - expensive. possible since diaphragm is mechanically actuated

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/724050-REG/Novoflex_EOSNIK_NT_EOS_NIK_NT_Lens_Adapter_for.html