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Lenses / Re: What lenses are you missing in the line up
« on: November 05, 2011, 09:29:42 AM »
How about a 400/5.6L IS...

...yes, and together with a 300 f/4 IS II (mainly for an updated IS).

PS: How much would a 400 f/4 (non-DO) cost, as much as a 200 f/2?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Light Field camera - Is this a revolution?
« on: October 20, 2011, 11:36:21 AM »
No, it is not a revolution, it is a toy. IQ-wise it is competing with mobile phone cameras.

The Personal Computer (in its generic sense) started as a toy, too, and look what happened to the "real" computers.

The question is not whether, in its current, first incarnation it is a threat to the DSLRs or P'n'S cameras, the question is, extrapolating another 10 years of technological progress — is there any inherent reason that it will not be usable by Pros?

The digital camera and the phone camera initially got laughed at, too, because they started really low down, and look what happened to them...

Just by the way the technology is working the IQ of the Lytro will always be far lower than what you would get with a regular camera with the same sensor size. So no matter how much technology advances, the 'normal' technology will be ahead. Now it might be that at some point the sensors will get so good that the drop in IQ and resolution wont matter, but I do not think this will ever happen. Problem there is that at some point you will simply reach the limit of what is physically possible due to the way light behaves, and I don't think we are that far away from that border anymore.

Let me reformulate and use a different analogy. Nowadays most cameras don't have an optical viewfinder, because although the alternatives are not (yet) better, they are good enough for most people. Does this technology have the potential to become good enough and cheap enough to take over the point'n'shoot market (or what's left of it after the phones finish eating it for lunch)? Or will it be integrated into a phone too? ;-) What about EVIL or DSLR? Or will the new world be lightfield for the masses and DSLRs for the relative niche of ambitious and professional photographers?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Light Field camera - Is this a revolution?
« on: October 20, 2011, 10:26:29 AM »
No, it is not a revolution, it is a toy. IQ-wise it is competing with mobile phone cameras.

The Personal Computer (in its generic sense) started as a toy, too, and look what happened to the "real" computers.

The question is not whether, in its current, first incarnation it is a threat to the DSLRs or P'n'S cameras, the question is, extrapolating another 10 years of technological progress — is there any inherent reason that it will not be usable by Pros?

The digital camera and the phone camera initially got laughed at, too, because they started really low down, and look what happened to them...

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EOS Bodies / Re: What else will they do with that 18MP FF Sensor?
« on: October 18, 2011, 04:09:56 AM »
Would be a shame to see it go in just one camera.  Maybe this will give us the "split" 5D that's been discussed: an "entry-level" 18MP FF, plus a high MP direct competitor to the upcoming Nikon D800.  Of course, it won't be exactly the same sensor, but a "reduced-performance" variant.

Why "reduced", didn't the 5D2 have an - if at all changed - slightly improved version of the 1Ds3 sensor, seeing that it was released later?

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 04:08:36 AM »
Current 5D2 owner here; watching from a distance (I'm not going to upgrade to the 1-series for price and bulk reasons) it's interesting; here's hoping for a 5D3 with similar DR/ISO and the 7D's AF, that's what I'm waiting for ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: MP/ISO
« on: October 14, 2011, 11:04:44 AM »
Anyhow, what you are saying is that the larger pixel's larger well doesn't help because if the well is Z times larger it also collects Z times the light and therefore saturates equally fast?

Correct, for the most part.  You take 4 smaller pixels that fit into the area of one larger pixel, and while the larger pixel has a deeper well, it's getting more light, and if you sum the wells of the smaller pixels, they're equivalent to the single larger pixel, and together they get the same amount of light.

Thanks, and what about the other issue, is that a red herring too? If say a small pixel can capture only 500 photons you'll only ever get 9 bits out of each one, but if you have one quad-size pixel you'll get up to 2000 photons or 11 bits? Don't the smaller pixels limit dynamic range here? Or is the gain with the larger pixel non-existent because you only gain two more noisy lower bits, rather than two higher bits beyond the 9 bits?

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EOS Bodies / Re: MP/ISO
« on: October 14, 2011, 08:46:16 AM »
I'm with you on the noise, but at some point the smaller per-pixel full-well capacity must start to dominate by reducing the possible dynamic range per-pixel, which in this case translates into reduced dynamic range for the whole image (like "of what use is a 14bit A/D if you can only hold 400 photons per pixel")?

You would think this is the case, but the full-well capacity usually scales with area, so the dynamic range per solid angle does not depend on pixel size. In other words, smaller pixels have smaller wells, but since you add up more of them, this (almost) exactly adds up to the well of the larger pixel with the same total area.

Sorry, I'm lost, what's this "solid angle"?

Anyhow, what you are saying is that the larger pixel's larger well doesn't help because if the well is Z times larger it also collects Z times the light and therefore saturates equally fast?

Sounds so plausible that I wonder why I didn't think of it myself ;-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: New DSLR on Tuesday, October 18, 2011. [CR3]
« on: October 14, 2011, 08:39:11 AM »
Couldn't they jump just a bit over this boring market segmentation thing and bring out a 5D3 with the 7D's AF just to sell more big glass?

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EOS Bodies / Re: MP/ISO
« on: October 12, 2011, 03:00:11 AM »
The idea that smaller pixels mean more noise is commonly held, but in fact, it's wrong.  If you take a single pixel in isolation, it's certainly true that a smaller pixel has lower full-well capacity, less sensitivity, and more noise.

I'm with you on the noise, but at some point the smaller per-pixel full-well capacity must start to dominate by reducing the possible dynamic range per-pixel, which in this case translates into reduced dynamic range for the whole image (like "of what use is a 14bit A/D if you can only hold 400 photons per pixel")?

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EOS Bodies / Full 5D mark II Refund
« on: October 11, 2011, 02:34:57 AM »
Check this out, there's an online store that offers a full refund for any 5D mark II purchased between now and the end of 2011 if the 5D mark III is announced in that time interval!

http://www.ac-foto.com/ac/shop/info.php?hersteller=Canon&id=21624

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EOS Bodies / Re: Nikon D800 at 36mp, Will Canon Respond?
« on: October 04, 2011, 10:10:39 AM »
The big question is how the current lenses will hold up to a 36mp+ camera

How will my harddisk hold up to 50-60 MB RAW files?

Srsly, I'm quite happy with 21 MP and hope they don't jump too far ahead, more DR and better high ISO would be much more welcome than more pixels.

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE 2* Art Wolfe Confirms the 1Ds Mark IV?
« on: September 14, 2011, 01:58:53 AM »
No need to apologise — if there was a frenzy over a typo then it was because people enjoyed it, that's why they are on this site 8) Most of everybody else wouldn't have noticed and/or wouldn't have cared, at least not until the official announcement is made!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Lens Mug - Giveaway
« on: August 30, 2011, 05:44:51 PM »
Here's the ultimate one: Canon, Nikon, and all the other DSLR makers decide that it's in the best interest of the customers to have one open-specification cross-brand lens mount so that every future DSLR lens is compatible with every future DSLR camera, regardless of make!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Lens Mug - Giveaway
« on: August 30, 2011, 12:16:41 PM »
  • Choice of different sensors, in particular with/without anti-aliasing filter and with/without Bayer-color-filter
  • Automatic calibration of the phase-detect auto-focus using the always-calibrated contrast-detect auto-focus
  • Remote control via bluetooth from smartphone with remote live-view and integration with phone's video conferencing software
  • Built-in flexible exposure ("initial delay x, then make y shots every z seconds for u hours") and get rid of ridiculous 30sec exposure limit when not in B mode
  • Three easily accessible turn-dials instead of just one or two, one for exposure time, one for aperture, and one for iso
  • USB master port to directly attach hard-disks, and while we are at it: behave like standard USB mass-storage device on the slave port
  • Flexible flash-synchronisation, free choice of when to signal the flash and for how long in relationship to the exposure time interval
  • Modular firmware with open specifications and possibility for user-community to write new software extensions for the camera
  • Camera LCD with same RGB sub-pixel arrangement as the Bayer-filter to allow for sub-pixel-perfect 100% view of image

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Canon General / Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« on: August 24, 2011, 03:57:50 AM »
Boom!
...
This can only be good for all of us as the ante has just been upped!

Yeah, either there will be something interesting from Canon to upgrade to, or I'll have to closely inspect Sony's offerings. They also released a 50mm f/1.8 with IS!

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