« on: May 15, 2012, 04:58:59 AM »
Where's the smite button when you need it?
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shooting at the top of the cage for most shots
I think your setup might have some weird scaling issue. Try a different browser too.
It seems the 5D3 beats the D800 (and the 5D2) in it's anti-aliasing. You'll notice the 5D3 image is just about perfect, the 5D2, D800 and the A900 all show problems, phantom vertical or horizontal lines that seem to cut through the pattern. Red arrows show the problem areas.
The image is from DPR's RAW image comparisons. It's not quite visible on the D800 at the reduced resolution on this site, however if you download the image you should be able to see it clearer at full size.
You can also go to DPR's page here and move the selected area to the pinwheel directly below the + in the center of the frame. You can of course compare how other cameras perform against the 5D3 on this same test.
Are you sure it's not something with your browser or graphics card or the downsampled image you posted here?
I don't see any of that at all when I go to the DPR page. And it looks like line skipped downsampling in your sample posted.
Not saying that the 5D3 doesn't do some things better than the D800, it does, color moire-free video and fps at FF just to name two. But I don't see what you point arrows at above.
@V8Beast: I only wrote that because of the other thread, where posters either enjoy complaining about DXO blatantly manipulating test results or being blind believers in whatever results DXO reports, as if this was any kind of rational behaviour.
And your arguments regarding the DX0 Mark tests, bias etc. If the shoe was on the other foot, you lot would be putting the boot into Nikon and praising DX0 Mark for their testing techniques.
This is what I'm expecting, for the 5D3 vs D800
Overall Score - 84 ( Actual Score - 81)
Color Depth - 24 bits (Actual Score - 24 bits) one of three, I'm on fire!!!
Dynamic Range - 12.4 Evs (Actual Score - 11.7)
Low-Light ISO - 3200 (Actual Score - 2293)
To quote DxO's site: "Here is just a sample of our current customers:..." with a picture of Nikon's image below it. I think it is fair to say that they have ties to camera and lens manufacturers because they are expressly advertising these businesses as their customers on their site. Paste the link in a browser and look for yourself. This isn't conjecture nor is it conspiracy theory; it is fact.
I created a PDF of the website. See the attached. Opening the page sometimes defaults to their Home page.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the 5D3's light leak at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
I defended DXO some time ago just because they publish their testing procedures first and then follow them when testing. But I think you will also admit, that when there is a place for some speculation it will always happen. When only one copy (even if production one) was tested, then someone always can ask questions:
1. Was it the only copy they had?
2. If no didn't they "carefully" selected one "special" copy for testing purposes?
3. If they publish tests of only one copy of gear, doesn't it open space for such speculations as above?
4. Do they have any interest in such behaviour if they are sponsored by one producent?
I don't say they do it like described above. But as far as there is a reason to speculate, people will ask questions and doubt.
I lost quite a bit of faith in DXOMark after they tested the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II and found it to be significantly worse than the v1 in terms of resolution, and refused the possibility of a subaverage sample.
Their sensor tests may still be good, though.