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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 01:57:33 PM »
Bye bye Canon, hello Nikon.

You won't be seeing me here anymore, good luck with new Prosumer 18mp camera kids, and keep an eye on EBay, all my lenses etc will be there soon.

LOL Sorry, you'll just have to learn to frame your shots properly to begin with, instead of relying on cropping a 50MP file. Or yes, you can switch to Nikon and work with 12MP out of spite LOLOL Priceless

I suspect macfly is referring to the rumored 36 MP D800.  If you do a little digging into macfly instead of bashing him (which I admit, I was guilty of in the past), you'll find he's a pro with an impressive portfolio, and often shoots with medium format bodies in addition to dSLRs.  He appears to have a real need for higher resolution for print ads (thus the MF cameras), and was clearly hoping for a higher MP body from Canon, from a professional perspective.

Having said that, for me, 18 MP is just fine...

I`ll second neuro`s comments... check out macfly`s website to know that his work is impressive and he would know the importance of resolution to his own work that I believe he has said before includes billboard ads.  Although brashly stated, macfly has a good point that some photography greatly benefits from higher resolution and I`m sure he stated in a previous post around a month ago that he is often forced to use Hassleblad MF and he dislikes that camera therefore was hoping and praying Canon will release a camera that can match.  Perhaps that was wishful thinking, a 35mm FF sensor may just not be able to come close enough to what a MF sensor can do.

Justin made some good points as well.   Although Canon is trying to state this camera is an all-around best choice, that`s just marketing BS... they may not believe for a second an 18MP FF sensor will work for high-end studio, fashion, landscape.  I think Justin is correct in saying Canon clearly designed this for photojournalists, sports, weddings, etc. where 18MP is enough and fast shutter speeds and low-light performance trumps everything.  Of course, not all sports shooters are going to love this camera... not enough pixels on subject for long-range shots so need to go up 1 in lens choice (e.g. 400mm instead of 300mm).  Another issue is the max sync speed is down to 1/250s which might bother outdoor shooters trying to overpower the sun with strobes... for example Dan Carr talks about his on his web-site.   Overall, as another member stated earlier today, don't forget Canon is in the business to sell cameras and they are building this camera for the possibly the biggest segment of pros... those working in the field (rough and wet conditions) who need fast shutter speed and low light performance.

Before macfly and others that have similar needs, waiting for the 5D3 before defecting to Nikon might pay off.  If they increase the resolution to 30MP,  improve the AF, and just slightly improve build quality (logical improvements to make), it might be a great studio camera... after all 5D2 did destroy 1Ds3 sales so Canon heard the money loud and clear... pros who would otherwise use the 1Ds3 went straight for the 5D2 clearly voting with their dollars that they can live without the rugged build quality of the 1 series.

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:47:52 AM »
Just for anyone that cares before the official press release is out and about, here's the PDF from the Japanese press release; it's where the AF image, GPS/Wireless images came from. Full specs are at the bottom.

This was taken down along with the press release, so it is official, it came from the Nikkei site.

Thanks.  Love your club photography by the way.  The 1DX should really work for you with the improved low-light performance!

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:37:03 AM »
The press release DID hit in Japan, but was quickly taken down. That's where the image came from, and the full detailed PDF with all the specs. So it IS official, Canon's just not ready to make it official yet.

Strange

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:32:06 AM »
Searching for "Canon" on Google News doesn't give any results for a credible news agency picking the story up.

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:29:16 AM »
Did the official press release happen yet (still don't see it updated on the USA canon newsroom)? If not, still holding out for a possible lens announcement too!

I don't think so.  www.canon.com/news/2011/index.html still only shows the "50 million EOS" news release that states the name of 1D X but no specs.

Hmmmm......

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:22:55 AM »
The 7D shoots 18 MP RAW files at 8 fps with dual Digic 4. If the Digic 5 is indeed 17 times faster and the 1D X has dual Digic 5 plus Digic 4 for metering, why can't it handle RAW at 14 fps? That's not even twice as fast at moving data as the 7D, unless it turns out to be foveon type sensor or something.

It's a good question.  To get the 14 fps the press release stated the mirror would stay up but still the sensor is being exposed at 14 fps and converting to jpg is additional processing after the RAW exposure and ADC so why not allow RAW at 14 fps with the mirror up?  The answer then could be that data throughput to memory is still the bottleneck?

Also, the press release didn't mention of how many frames at 12 fps the camera can capture before the buffer is full.

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Press Release
« on: October 18, 2011, 12:13:53 AM »
The 7D shoots 18 MP RAW files at 8 fps with dual Digic 4. If the Digic 5 is indeed 17 times faster and the 1D X has dual Digic 5 plus Digic 4 for metering, why can't it handle RAW at 14 fps? That's not even twice as fast at moving data as the 7D, unless it turns out to be foveon type sensor or something.

It's a good question.  To get the 14 fps the press release stated the mirror would stay up but still the sensor is being exposed at 14 fps and converting to jpg is additional processing after the RAW exposure and ADC so why not allow RAW at 14 fps with the mirror up?  The answer then could be that data throughput to memory is still the bottleneck?

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Press Release
« on: October 17, 2011, 11:45:26 PM »
For networking, it looks like a LAN port with the option of wireless (with on-board bluetooth) and GPS adapters.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Frelease.nikkei.co.jp%2Fattach_file%2F0294330_02.pdf

I like the idea of colour-based focus tracking with iTR (Intelligent Tracking and Recognition).


I like this translation  "Operation of the shutter unit cleared the test for 40 million times." now thats what i call durable :D


Pffttt...  That's only 33 days at 14fps, you call that durable?

;)


 ;D  +1

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Press Release
« on: October 17, 2011, 11:10:34 PM »
If anyone complaining about the 'wired' ethernet wants to transmit 1 RAW file every 5 seconds over 54Mbps wireless, be my guest. I'll stick with the gigabit.

Considering studios already shoot tethered via USB, maybe they just decided gigabit was more ubiquitous and easier to implement than USB 3.

True.  And every computer (mostly) has ethernet (although perhaps not gigabit) while USB 3.0 has been slow to be adopted.

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Possible Press Release
« on: October 17, 2011, 10:59:12 PM »
While most people are trying to go wireless, Canon gives us a wired network system?  Seems odd...  can you imagine a bunch of 100+ yard ethernet cables cluttering the sidelines of a football field?  Not to mention that I think it would be rather cumbersome to manipulate a camera with a giant cat6 cable sticking out the side.

Yeah that couldn't work at the sidelines... the photographers move around a fair bit.  Perhaps their intent is that a Gigabit ethernet connection gives super fast image download in the press center rather than actually shooting with the cable attached?

I think you guys all forget that pretty much all pro STUDIO work usually means the camera is wired to a laptop or computer. Just because there is a new feature doesn't mean it's geared to every single use of a camera.

Ethernet technology in a wireless society just to serve studio applications still makes no sense in the broader picture. Including an ethernet port on a camera requires a sizable commitment in both on board technology and port space...I just can't see stepping backwards for this function.... :)

That's a good point also.  Adding an extra port (a fairly large one at that) and a comm protocol is strange.  As for speed, USB 3.0 is 5 times faster than Gigabit Ethernet... do I have that right?

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Possible Press Release
« on: October 17, 2011, 10:51:04 PM »
While most people are trying to go wireless, Canon gives us a wired network system?  Seems odd...  can you imagine a bunch of 100+ yard ethernet cables cluttering the sidelines of a football field?  Not to mention that I think it would be rather cumbersome to manipulate a camera with a giant cat6 cable sticking out the side.

Yeah that couldn't work at the sidelines... the photographers move around a fair bit.  Perhaps their intent is that a Gigabit ethernet connection gives super fast image download in the press center rather than actually shooting with the cable attached?

I think you guys all forget that pretty much all pro STUDIO work usually means the camera is wired to a laptop or computer. Just because there is a new feature doesn't mean it's geared to every single use of a camera.

Good point.  The "possible press release" made a reference to sporting arenas equipped with wired LAN so naturally that's where the mind goes.

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Possible Press Release
« on: October 17, 2011, 10:48:38 PM »
It appears it could be true, if you take a look at the following press release on the Canon site it makes mention of the EOS-1D X with the same release date:

http://www.canon.com/news/2011/oct18e.html


Yeah, that does help with this a lot, but some of the specs are still strange, so someone could have made up some specs to throw in. At least we know the name of it :) Just have to see if the specs are right.


Good call!  Maybe someone read the Canon release about the name and plugged in the rumoured specs!!!

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Possible Press Release
« on: October 17, 2011, 10:43:40 PM »
While most people are trying to go wireless, Canon gives us a wired network system?  Seems odd...  can you imagine a bunch of 100+ yard ethernet cables cluttering the sidelines of a football field?  Not to mention that I think it would be rather cumbersome to manipulate a camera with a giant cat6 cable sticking out the side.

Yeah that couldn't work at the sidelines... the photographers move around a fair bit.  Perhaps their intent is that a Gigabit ethernet connection gives super fast image download in the press center rather than actually shooting with the cable attached?

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Canon General / Re: Canon EOS 1D X Possible Press Release
« on: October 17, 2011, 10:38:12 PM »
...and why does the 4th paragraph refer to a Digic 4 processor .... I thought this was Digic 5

The reference to DIGIC4 is just for the AE (and maybe the AF?) system.   The camera operating system and image processing is done by dual DIGIC 5+.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The New EOS [CR3]
« on: October 17, 2011, 10:01:58 PM »
2.5 hours to go!

what time is it suppose to start? noon SGT?

If it's going to start at 0400 UTC/GMT (ie in another 2:15) as has apparently been tradition, that makes it 1200 Singapore time, 1430 Aussie time (the parts of Aus that matter anyway), 1300 Tokyo Time, 0600 Western Europe (Berlin time), midnight New York, 9pm monday in LA, etc.

Yes, i'm so bored waiting for this that i've been messing around on timeanddate.com.

LOL I was just on there as well.

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