« on: October 19, 2011, 10:55:16 AM »
Last time looked, DPR's numbers for DR were based on in-camera JPG shots of a step wedge. If that's no longer the case, happy to hear it. If they're still doing that...need I say more?
Actually thatÂ´s (imho) closer to reality then the 12-13 Stops from DXO Mark.
8.x EV (9.x with Raw Headroom) seem to be what i can achieve with my 1D MK4.
But i sure come nowhere near the 12 Stops from DXO Mark.Quote from: DPreviewOur Dynamic Range measurement system involves shooting a calibrated Stouffer Step Wedge (13 stops total range) which is backlit using a daylight balanced lamp (98 CRI). A single shot of this produces a gray scale wedge from the camera's clipped white point down to black (example below). Each step of the scale is equivalent to 1/3 EV (a third of a stop), we select one step as 'middle gray' (defined as 50% luminance) and measure outwards to define the dynamic range. Hence there are 'two sides' to our results, the amount of shadow range (below middle gray) and the amount of highlight range (above middle gray).QuoteThat would explain why every camera was measured to have around 8 stops of DR... no matter what the actual dynamic range recorded by the camera they are all converted to the standard jpg file format with 256 levels per colour channel.
Sonys Sensor is measured with 9.4 EV.
I think the point is more about the fact that DPR is using jpeps for the test rather than the fact they're doing a real world visual test by shooting the step wedge and counting the number of stops above and below middle gray before detail is lost. My understanding (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that the jpeg transfer function sacrifices shadow and highlight detail in favor of preserving detail in the middle tones. Something has to be lost to reduce file size and highlight and shadow detail is the least important. The earlier clipping of the shadow and highlights reduces the DR that was captured in the RAW file and this is precisely why by shooting RAW we can pull more detail out of the shadows in post than working with the in-camera jpegs.
When I stated that all the DPR results all came in at 8.x stops I was making the point relative to the numbers in Gothmoth's post (I have not looked for the DRP results for all cameras) and my point was that they were all reduced to about the same level lower than the DxoMark tests. If the Sony sensor was measured 9.4 then perhaps it started with more DR in the RAW file, perhaps the Sony in-camera jpeg applied a less aggressive transfer curve? I don't know, I'm asking because you seem to know about the details of their testing?
Another question I have is, if DPR is shooting the wedge and visually counting the stops what are they viewing it on (monitor, print) and what is the DR of that viewing medium. This I have no clue about so perhaps you know more about that. My understanding though is that modern sensors can record more dynamic range than can be printed and only very high-end expensive monitors can display DR greater than about 10 stops which perhaps DPR was using.
Since you imply you've tested what you can achieve with your 1D4, how did you do your test? Do you have access to a monitor that can display more than 8-9 stops of DR?