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EOS Bodies / Re: Whortwhile to go for 5D Mark II?
« on: December 15, 2011, 11:24:29 AM »
I am also not sure what that price point drop may be.

I expect the 5DMK3 to be closer to the $3K range or at least mid to high $2Ks and just because a new one is out, especially if it is close to $1000 more does not mean a price plummet.  I do expect once the 5DMK3 is out the MK2 will drop, but I still see extremely good condition 5Ds selling for 1200+, with highly used ones being more in the $900 plus range, and that camera is now 6 years old and about to be 2 generations old.

will the 5DMKII drop when the 3 comes out.  Yup?, but ANY CAMERA will.  Especially if you are using it. 

I cherry picked my 5D MKII with less than 500 actuations and while it will be worth less than the $1850 I paid, I figure by the time I am ready to upgrade to the 5DMKIII it might turn out to cost me $1/day, maybe a little more.  That is not too bad of a price to pay to shoot on a 5DMKII versus a T2i.

EOS Bodies / Re: 7D2, 5D3 and Megapixel Insights
« on: December 15, 2011, 09:34:54 AM »
I am not sure the demand will be as big. 

You a lot of people are in the bigger is better category, but say 36 MP versus 21MP is 1.7x greater.  That means your 32GB card you are used to shooting is now a 19GB card for all intent and purposes.

Will the Nikon allow us to have multiple levels of Raw?  i.e. an 18MP Raw and a 36MP Raw.

I can see a lot of people who will need that high of resolution, but I think for many that size might start to get too cumbersome. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Whortwhile to go for 5D Mark II?
« on: December 15, 2011, 09:26:51 AM »
I spent 7 months or so in the 7D vs 5DMKII camp and flipped back and forth more than a politician... Pretty much almost an acrobat or gymnast at that point. 

I just pulled the shutter on the 5DMKII end of last month and am happy. 

Will it be "outdated" in a year.  Yup... but then again, the 5DMKIII will be outdated by the middle of 2013 as well.

I stepped up from my T2i and the biggest factor to me was going FF and getting better IQ.  That being said, the 5D MKII AF I wish had more points, especially when I am shooting fashion in lower light, but the end result over the next 6 months or how ever long until the 5DMKIII is available, I am MUCH happier with my images, my models love them, and I really like the step up.  The net result come next year, I will be a better photographer than if I had just shot the T2i.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Body Pricing
« on: December 14, 2011, 11:01:08 AM »
I think if you are looking at the 5D MKIII expect something in the $3K range +/- 200.  Would not be surprised to see it at $3499 even, especially if it is the bridge to the 1DX, and also would not be surprised at $2799..  Don't think you will see the body below $2500 until mid 2013 at best.

Lenses / Re: EF 35 f/1.4L II & EF 24-70 f/2.8L II on January 3, 2012? [CR2]
« on: December 13, 2011, 07:24:30 AM »
I am also sure IS costs them more in development costs, R&D, and a whole lot more in Quality Assurance out the door, as well as spoilage and rework.  Pricing is a lot of what the market will bear, but a lot of it is also more than just the cost of parts and labor of the final product

EOS Bodies / Re: Hoping for a Entry level FF
« on: December 11, 2011, 11:56:23 AM »

Adorama have the new 5D Mark II for 2099, and if you get the 15% off refurb deal (like they have now), you can get it for 1699.


http://www.adorama.com/ICA5DM2R.html is the Refurb at 2199

http://www.adorama.com/ICA5DM2.html is the new US at 2399

And yes there is the 1699 deal of the refurb from Canon.  Awesome deal as long as it lasts

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 7D and 5DmarkII
« on: December 11, 2011, 10:40:31 AM »
I opted for the 5D MKII about a week ago... I was torn waiting for either a 5D MKIII with improved AF or a 7D MK II with improved IQ...

In the end, even though I do shoot some sports, it will come up to me to improve my shooting abilities to maximize the 5Ds AF, but my IQ has been improved across the voard. 

Canon General / Re: An EF 70-200 f/4L IS II in Mid January? [CR1]
« on: December 11, 2011, 10:37:38 AM »

btw: a bit off topic... but why does your negative karma goes back in numbers but ours not?
i noticed you had more then 11 negative karmas but now your back to 10.

Elementary... A person can hit Smite by mistake and it will go to say 11, then click on Applaud and the smite goes back to 10 and the applaud up

EOS Bodies / Re: Hoping for a Entry level FF
« on: December 11, 2011, 10:08:52 AM »
Not sure where someone saw Adorama selling NEW 5D MKIIs for $2099 on Adorama, the refurb sells for $2199 when I looked 5 minutes ago.

I agree with others that a for that wishlist provided, that $1800 seems low, as well as for the person suggesting that the 7D MKII would be $1599, don't see that as long as the 7D is currently in that range after dropping. 

I expect the 5D MK III to be more of the $2800 range body only new and the next 7D MK II to be in the $1900 range.  I also don't expect any of these two to be on the shelves until summer at best. 

For entry level FF, there may be, Canon may come out with one, but I still expect that to be $2000 plus, most likely $2100... basically you want entry FF you pay $2K, you want more Pro level you pay closer to $3K and into the 5D MKIII.  The 7D MKII will be slightly cheaper, have a little better AF and a little faster burst... So 7D line will be Top-Crop great for sports and active, a little less on ISO, and the 6D would be more portrait, better ISO.  Then again... Canon could also be very fine leaving the 7D line as Top Crop and the 5D really as the entry.  No sense canibalizing, and a too capable Entry FF may hurt the 7D line

EOS Bodies / Re: 7D + 10-22mm or 5D III + 16-35mm L II?
« on: December 10, 2011, 06:45:00 PM »
Trade you my 10-22 for your 16-25.  I just jumped up from a 550d to a 5DMKII.

I love the 10-22 on a crop, but I am moving to FF now so have been in the market for either a 16-35 MKI  or MKII.

Canon EF-S and EF-M Lenses / Re: Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
« on: December 10, 2011, 01:02:06 PM »
with my 550d + ef-s 10-22mm

Very nice

Lenses / Re: EF 24-105 F4L - Normal or Issue
« on: December 05, 2011, 09:52:34 AM »
@KacperP - I have read it, something I am still learning, and the biggest hurdle I am getting over is establishing reference points to what is normal in a particular lens. 

@neuroanatomist - Think you nailed it on the head.  Makes sense that comparing an extendable barrel with weather sealing versus an internal fixed barrel that there would be a feel difference.  The "swooshing" or what I was thinking of as an almost "corduroy" sound was the part that just sounded different to me compared to the EF-S. 

@funkyboy - I probably will still swing by a shop this weekend for a piece of mind and see how another one feels. 

Thanks for all of the feedback. 

Majority of my indoor work is with strobes, so I think the 24-105 will be fine.  Would prefer to get faster glass, but all things in good time.  I think where I have been thinking about adding speed is maybe going for a 16-35 F2.8L version I over the 17-40 F4L.  Probably will be around a $300 investment more compared to the straight swap of EF-S 10-22.  Will take some hunting to find a decent one.

the 70-200 2.8 IS II would definitely be the preferred lens but also winds up being much more expensive.  You get what you pay for, but on a budget, I have to make some compromises

EOS Bodies / Re: Advice On 7D Purchase
« on: December 05, 2011, 08:24:25 AM »
@Harley - Congrats on the 7D.  I was in a similar boat with my T2i and have been weighing 7D vs 5DMKII for about 8 months and I have flip-flopped more than most politicians.  The rumor and promise of new bodies also seriously made things difficult... but in the end I just bit on the 5D and even though in 9 months both the 7D and 5D MKII will likely have upgraded bodies, the 7D or 5DMKII will both be a substantial upgrade, and at worst, even if I sell and say walk out $300 or so less than what I paid in, that still winds up being a fairly cheap rental over say a year. 

So if I find myself come next holiday season jonesing for a Black Friday or Cyber Monday sale on the new latest and greatest, it just means that perhaps I have paid $25 or $30 a month for a better body. 

I am almost thinking of my 5DMKII purchase like a lease.  I also got a great deal on mine, so think if I sell in a year, I might be looking at more like $20/month. 

There will ALWAYS be a better camera on the horizon.  At some point it makes sense to upgrade, realize that when you do finally make that decision, the camera you were waiting on will be announced a week later, but be happy in your decision. 

Enjoy the purchase.

+1 on Shermanstank on the Battery Grip.  I can't go back to a camera without one.

Just a follow-up for anyone else in the quandry...

Pulled the trigger on the 24-105 F4L.  In the end I decided that would be a solid upgrade since I use the 18-135 so much as an every day lens, and the 24-105 should be a big step up.

All the 70-200s are out of the picture because of loosing distance... Yes that on again off again debate of 5DMKII vs 7D vs 5DMKIII when ever vs 7DMKII when ever came to an end... And as alluded to, I am entering the full frame world.  Pulled the trigger on a lightly used 5DMKII... had been tempted to go new, but also had seen that the person selling it was a serious audiophile, so there is definitely a level of trust when I see people who sell $4K pieces of high end audio and the recipients are happy... Gives me a much higher degree of comfort than the listings I see when the person says their are only 2 clicks on the body, but the serial in the EOSinfo does not match the serial on the bottom of the body...

I am also looking forward to my 50 1.4 being a 50 again.  Sometimes when I shoot in a tighter room, I wish for more room, and loosing the crop factor will definitely make the lenses feel different...

So... Will be swapping out my 10-22 for a 17-40 which seems like should be even price wise... But the dilema.

Do I now consider 70-300 F4-5.6L versus the 100-400? 

My 70-200 F4 Non-IS was pretty much really a 112-320, so the 70-300 will get me a lot closer and pretty much the same reach.  Then again... If I keep my t2i as a second body, the 70-300 becomes a 112-480 on that if I need to have more reach, though give up some IQ

Good call to BrianSquib.  Really was in the 7D or what is coming out in Spring, but what made the decision in the end, I am doing some fashion shoots in the next couple of weeks, almost pulled the trigger on a 5DMKII week rental, so figured for the $200 that was going to cost me for upgraded IQ, I should be able to jump out of the 5DMKII if I really wanted to and actually be ahead of the game money wise. 

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