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EOS Bodies / Re: More About the EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R
« on: January 30, 2015, 07:53:42 PM »
Hell, basketball I never shoot over ISO 320.  It's either 320 or 160 but I strobe every basketball game, so this would be a backup to my backup.

Really?  Wow.  As a person who gets ophthalmic migraines from bright camera flashes, the first thing I'd do as a basketball player in a game you're shooting is accidentally on purpose crash into your strobes.

Since he used the term strobe and not flash, how do you know he isn't referring to the high above ceiling strobes that they have at pro arenas and at the bigger NCAA D1 schools?

I was assuming it was something like Elinchroms on stands or similar since he said he strobes them rather than using the house strobes (which are now banned in many places, and always unnecessary).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the EOS 5D Mark IV? [CR2]
« on: January 30, 2015, 07:43:40 PM »
4k in a Mk3 successor would only make sense, I just wish it wasn't delayed til August (if this is accurate).  $4000 price drop on the 1DC suggests this may well come true. 4k at $3500 in a 5 series and 4k in a 1DC at $8000 makes a lot more sense. (a la Sony a7s vs Sony FS7)

Delayed?  The 5D was normally refreshed every four years.  Even if it's delayed until August, it's still almost year earlier.

The four-year update schedule ...

Never existed (see above).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: January 30, 2015, 07:20:26 PM »
If it has Canon DR and with the only 5fps and no improved video and no 4k then FORGET IT! It is a only a pseudo jack of all trades and not even close to a master of anything.

I don't think anyone is promoting this camera as "jack of all trades".  It seems to be designed as a master of well-lit studio, daylight and still life applications.

Demanding high frame rate and video out of that sort of camera is like expecting similar from digital medium format.

That's exactly what people said about the 5D Mark II.  And they were wrong.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the EOS 5D Mark IV? [CR2]
« on: January 30, 2015, 07:10:18 PM »
4k in a Mk3 successor would only make sense, I just wish it wasn't delayed til August (if this is accurate).  $4000 price drop on the 1DC suggests this may well come true. 4k at $3500 in a 5 series and 4k in a 1DC at $8000 makes a lot more sense. (a la Sony a7s vs Sony FS7)

Delayed?  The 5D was normally refreshed every four years.  Even if it's delayed until August, it's still almost year earlier.

Announcements:

5D: August 22, 2005
5DII: September 17, 2008 (3 years 1 month)
5DIII: March 2, 2012 (3 years 6 months)
5DIV:  August, 2015 (3 years 5 months)?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: January 30, 2015, 05:47:40 PM »
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Those small pixels give us ISO 16,000 in the 7DII.

No, the Pixels of the 7DM2 are larger.

No, 20MP * 1.6*2 = 51.2MP - about the same.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: January 30, 2015, 05:17:26 PM »
Sometimes I don't understand the customers... wanting a High Megapixel cam but ISO409600? ;)  Haha. Of course you get ISO6400 with that small pixels...

Those small pixels give us ISO 16,000 in the 7DII.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Where is the EOS 5D Mark IV? [CR2]
« on: January 30, 2015, 05:15:35 PM »
August?

Grrrr....

Trying to figure out what to do with replacements for my 20D and 5D.

I'm now leaning toward replacing the 20D with the 7DII for now, but this puts my lens switcheroo a bit out of order.

However, a 24MP 5DIV with great low-light performance, the 7DII AF system (or better), dual-pixel and 4k could well lead me to part with more cash than I was planning on.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More About the EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R
« on: January 30, 2015, 04:00:19 PM »
I am looking for a landscape and travel type of camera with these specs. But I want GPS, and I think most people would for such a camera. Not for a studio camera though....
The GPS cameras don't have maps or any type of guidance system. They just record your spot.

A dedicated GPS or smartphone is far more useful and you can use one of those super complex notepads and pencils to note which shots were taken where. :)

You don't need a notepad for that.  Time sync your camera's images to accurate time and the GPS data recorded by the phone can be easily matched up.  Lightroom has all the necessary feature for this.

Last trip I took a picture of my watch (which sync's itself to WWV every day) but a cell phone using the timeanddate website will work too.  Then I adjusted all my pictures to that picture in Lightroom (it's one, simple operation).  Then I downloaded the KMZ file of each day of my trip from Google's location history website.  Then I used a free web site to change those into .gpx files which I loaded into the Lightroom Map module.  Whamo!  All my pictures are properly geocoded (well, except for those taken where there was no GPS or cell signal - I did those by hand).

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EOS Bodies / Re: More About the EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R
« on: January 30, 2015, 03:09:51 PM »
I am looking for a landscape and travel type of camera with these specs. But I want GPS, and I think most people would for such a camera. Not for a studio camera though....

Do you have a smart phone, especially one that already has Google Maps on it?  If so, you really don't even need GPS.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More About the EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R
« on: January 30, 2015, 02:04:06 PM »
Guys, please pardon my ignorance but I'd like to clarify the ISO question. If Canon 5ds has Sony sensor and let's say you shoot at ISO 3200, would you be able to push shadows 1-2 stops in post-processing like for D810? In this case, would ISO 3200 be kind of equivalent to ISO 6400-12800? Sorry for my very naive description of what I wanted to ask.

Pushing doesn't just push the shadows, it pushes everything.  Canon sensors are already as good as the rest once you're at ISO 400-800 and above so no difference there.
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Another question is, do you guys think there's any chance 5Ds would come with integrated non-detachable grip, like 1D series?

I sure hope not, and I doubt it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: January 30, 2015, 01:49:45 PM »
The latest update from Canonwatch:


    50.6MP full-size CMOS sensor (53MP total count)
    5DS R is without low-pass filter
    Magnesium alloy body
    Dust and water sealed
    Dual processor DIGIC6
    Regular sensitivity ISO 100-6400, expand to 12800
    Continuous shooting 5 frames / sec.
    High precision 61-point AF, 41 cross type
    EOS iTR AF
    150,000 pixel RGB + IR photometry sensor
    Added “fine detail” to the Picture Style
    1.3x and 1.6x crop shooting mode
    Customizable “Quick Control Screen”
    Time-lapse movie
    Anti-flicker
    Interval Timer
    Bulb timer
    No headphone terminal
    No DAF
    No HDMI output for video (clean out). Not to compete with 5D III other video features are same.

The source also stated that the sensor is made by Canon using a new CMOS manufacturing process.

So, who's first to pre-order one?

If that's really the spec list, I probably wouldn't pay more than the cost of a 6D for it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More About the EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R
« on: January 30, 2015, 01:37:13 PM »
Hell, basketball I never shoot over ISO 320.  It's either 320 or 160 but I strobe every basketball game, so this would be a backup to my backup.

Really?  Wow.  As a person who gets ophthalmic migraines from bright camera flashes, the first thing I'd do as a basketball player in a game you're shooting is accidentally on purpose crash into your strobes.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: January 30, 2015, 01:31:05 PM »
Any thoughts on lens performance?  Will the higher resolution push the capabilities of the current L series?

Not even close.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More About the EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R
« on: January 30, 2015, 12:41:34 PM »
We’re told this is because of a much stronger CFA which will produce much greater color accuracy than anything currently in the Canon lineup.

I'd be incredibly shocked if this made any real difference in color performance.  Current raw images have way, way more gamut than any of the spaces we use and we have plenty of ability to find the right color in those areas with the possible exception of the whole purple/violet issue.

I've never found color accuracy to be a problem with any sensor, given raw shooting and processing with good tools.

Just compare an older Canon with a newer - for example 1Ds Mark III vs 5D Mark III. The color balance and accuracy out of camera on normal ISO is much better in the old-timer thanks to a thicker CFA. Files simply need less work and that might be a huge time-saver for many photographers.

Well, I have a 5D and a 550D, and I just don't see any real difference in this area between those two, and they would, I would guess, represent opposite ends of the spectrum in this area.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More About the EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R
« on: January 30, 2015, 12:39:06 PM »
We’re told this is because of a much stronger CFA which will produce much greater color accuracy than anything currently in the Canon lineup.

I'd be incredibly shocked if this made any real difference in color performance.  Current raw images have way, way more gamut than any of the spaces we use and we have plenty of ability to find the right color in those areas with the possible exception of the whole purple/violet issue.

I've never found color accuracy to be a problem with any sensor, given raw shooting and processing with good tools.

I disagree, I find when correcting color with my Color Checker that introduces noise that I could do without. To able to get correct color, and especially skin color, without the color checker would be fantastic!

A stronger CFA is going to give you less light captured and thus more noise, not less.

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