« on: December 06, 2013, 12:26:51 PM »
Well all this talk about the 6D AF in extreme low light... What the hell are you guys shooting that requires AF?
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It just getting better and better with Canon lenses.
BIG QUESTION: HOW MUCH?
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I guess I can't be of any help to you right now. I'm ordering a 300 2.8 II today ...
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I'm getting a battery grip for one of my 5D III, since I can't afford 1D X.
It's a beautiful day in California, I'm going to test drive my 300mm f2.8 IS II at local zoo today.
No more visit local Sony Store until Jan 2014
Not arguing, but thinking aloud that 300 should be enough with planning for a smaller package.
I believe that if one a person is taking more than 300 photos on a vacation while walking around is being trigger happy.
I have both for the time being. I got the 600mm first because I thought everything was shifting to full frame and was looking to replace an 800mm. Like others have said, for birding, I think the 600mm II + 1.4x III is the best option. If the birds are stationary, then the 600mm II + 2x III will also work nicely (super sharp). This is not a lens you want to travel that far with though, since it is big volume wise. Also hiking around with it is cumbersome at least for me. So that is something to consider. I mainly use the 600mm II on a sturdy tripod and a full gimbal head.
The 500mm is lighter on paper, but in my hands it does not feel that much lighter. It is however, much smaller in volume. So would be much easier to take on a plain or even to hike around with. Still not sure I want to hike around with it much. If you think you might be sticking with a crop sensor body (7D, 70D and maybe the next 1.6x body) then I might suggest you strongly consider the 500mm. If not for the slight weight savings and size differences, then for the price difference. The 500mm + 1.4x on a 7D is more than enough focal length for birding.
I also have the 300mm f/2.8L IS II and would choose to use that, if I am going to be hiking around looking for subjects to photograph. I'd use it without hesitation with the 2x III. It is much lighter than either the 500mm and 600mm and it is super sharp even with the 2x III on it.
Don't know, if that helps you any. You might even consider a nice used 800mm f/5.6L IS that can be had for around $8500 these days.
Best of luck with your decision. If you decide on a 500mm II, I might have one for you :-).
I have the 600 II and I am very happy with it. I use it with the 1.4xIII extender most of the time. If you´re not used to long lenses, you´ll be surprised to how many times you´ll say 840mm isn´t enough.
I had the 400 f2.8L IS II, but the 600 gives that extra level of sharpness at 840 vs. the 800 I could get by combining the 400 with the 2xIII extender. And with the 600 I can also go to 1200mm. But practically that is only usable on fairly stationary subjects. I combine the 600 with the 200-400 f4L IS 1.4x. A phenomenal lens you also should consider.
The 600 is a big lens and I actually find the size of it more of an issue than the weight. But from both a reach and optical quality perspective, it is awesome, but so is the 500 II.
The smaller size of the 500 II would make it easier to travel with, especially by air. As you say, the most significant differences are the cost and the 100mm of focal length. I'd say the 500mm would be better for wildlife and birds, whereas the 600mm is better for birds and wildlife. Since the latter more closely matches my interest, I went with the 600 II.
If Birds are your thing then the 600mm. You need as much reach as you can get.
So it depends on what your subjects are if any advantages apply.
The 500 will be lighter and a bit shorter and because of this a bit more portable.
It will be easier to hand hold as well.
Gentlemen, please step back from the brink..... a lot of you are getting way to personall and it would be a shame if the moderators had to step in.
I value all civil voices and like to hear both sides of the debate, but only when it is civil. When you resort to name calling and taunting each other, anything good that you have to say gets lost in the noise.
Take a deep breath, count to 10, go take some pictures, whatever.... let us restore our sanity.
I don´t need to talk about new gear because I have it.
If you 'don't need to talk' about it, why are you constantly doing so? The possible answers are:
1) You have new/prototype gear, and you can't talk about it because you signed an NDA (but if that were true, public blabbing like this would mean Canon would cut you off),
2) You have new/prototype gear, and Canon has authorized you to 'leak' information (in which case the frequency of your posts and the absurdity of some of your statements, such as Canon letting you permanently keep a prototype, has destroyed any credibility you may have had, and with it your value to Canon and they'd cut you off),
3) You're a liar.
Anyone who's been following this forum for a while knows which one of the above is correct.
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