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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 2nd Body - your thoughts?

« on: June 14, 2013, 03:23:15 AM »

It's easy ... get another 5D3.

That is what I wanted to do initially but then I just didn't want to put too much money in a second body, so I got a 6D. I primarily use the 6D with the standard / WA lenses while the 5D3 is used mostly at the tele end. The difference in the interface was initially a bother but I got used to it and have no problems shooting with both cameras side by side now.

Cheers ... J.R. 

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Reviews / Re: Incapable of posting to the adorama thread money still not returned

« on: June 12, 2013, 12:09:00 PM »

No one removed any of his posts, it was not productive to continue, and is still not productive, but I let it continue because there is interest by the members.  I am a CR Assistant Admin, and I do not get paid, nor do I have any income from advertising, but I do try to keep things from getting out of hand.

I think it is a good idea to lock this thread right now! 

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Software & Accessories / Re: Should I go with the genuine Battery grip or go for a 3rd Party grip

« on: June 12, 2013, 09:04:13 AM »

Do you shoot with a camera L plate? If yes, you should forget the third party grips as they are smaller than the Canon's BG. You won't be able to use the L plate on the 5D3 + third party grip.

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Lenses / Re: 70-200 Choices

« on: June 12, 2013, 07:55:26 AM »

Get the Canon 2.8 (non IS). Or, for what you do, try out the 135L f/2.

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Site Information / Re: CR wobbly

« on: June 12, 2013, 07:44:14 AM »

Hi Paul,

I'm getting a content encoding errors as well. The site opens however once I refresh the page. It's been happening since yesterday and I was wondering if it is a problem at my end.

Cheers ... J.R.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive

« on: June 12, 2013, 07:40:24 AM »

Simple ... use live view and focus manually if necessary

For the 6d and macro shooting I'm used to mf and even then move the camera forward and back to get something in focus, problem is that this takes some time and the butterfly is often gone by then...

But using lv (or mf with a €1700 camera and €1400 usm lens) for general photography: no way - I like focus peaking with Magic Lantern for tripod shots, but in a live scene I don't have the time to put the camera in p&s mode or move it away from me to see the display (e.g when lying on the ground).  Plus in bright ambient light I cannot see anything on the display anyway. So +1 for 5d3 if it wouldn't be so damn expensive.

The only way I've found the LV to work properly is when the camera is on the tripod. Using the LV for normal shooting is more trouble than it is worth - probably tougher than focus and recompose given that you hold more than kilo in your hands away from your body so if the camera moves half and inch, the shot is rendered OOF. 

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Software & Accessories / Re: What are the Hardware Specs for the machine you run Photoshop on?

« on: June 12, 2013, 07:27:40 AM »

Self-assembled PC:

OS: Windows 7 - 64 bit
Processor - i7 (3770)
8GB DDR RAM
1TB SATA HDD x 2
Dell 2713H
Nvidia GeForce GTX 660

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive

« on: June 12, 2013, 07:12:43 AM »

AF - that center point is pretty damn accurate and I couldn't find many lighting situations where the 6d said no, can't do it (without a flash attached!)

This thread is getting a bit long and random, but I have a new & real question here. Today I had a test with the 6d (again :-)) with the 70-300L and while I still feel the 6d is overpriced (Germany: 1700€) for various reasons I ran into a real issue:

How do you manage to get something in focus in the corners?

Obviously it's me because people have been shooting with the 5d2 and thin dof lenses for years, but I cannot seem to manage - on my 60d the outer af points are further from the center, but on the 6d once I focus and recompose the focus is off most of the time. Are there any tutorials how to do it? How do you do it - trial and error, then take the in focus shots?

Simple ... use live view and focus manually if necessary

Focus and recompose is a tough baby at wide open apertures. I don't use the focus and recompose method at anything wider than f/4 - However, there are people who do it with success but the chance of error is usually high.

It may be worth pointing out that in low light, all focus points save the center point don't lock on focus at all and focus and recompose is the only option left 

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Software & Accessories / Re: About to start with Focal

« on: June 12, 2013, 02:43:20 AM »

I'm using a laser-printout of the target. I remember someone commenting in another thread that the printout should be taken using an inkjet printer - is this correct? If yes, why?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive

« on: June 11, 2013, 11:33:23 PM »

I think mostly you get what you pay for, I'de be a little miffed if Canon sold the 6D for 2k and it performed exactly as a 5DMK III (3.4k) or a 1Dx. (7.5k)

Likewise, people are a little miffed that the 6D has less cross points than a Rebel ($750).

I wouldn't get too hung up on x type sensors. There are situations where this type can become 'confused', yet a | or - sensor can nail focus on an appropriate line.

+1

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive

« on: June 11, 2013, 02:29:05 AM »

I think mostly you get what you pay for, I'de be a little miffed if Canon sold the 6D for 2k and it performed exactly as a 5DMK III (3.4k) or a 1Dx. (7.5k)

That's exactly the reason why the 6D's AF was kept more or less the same as the 5D2 by Canon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Autofocus not impressive

« on: June 11, 2013, 01:59:35 AM »

I wish the 6D were available for $ 1,100 WITHOUT the GPS and the WiFi. Not everyone wants these features built into the camera.

Me too.  I wonder if it would ever be economically viable for Canon to turn out a model like this?

It's called a used 5d2.

Canon isn’t going to strip things off and offer a budget version unless their research tells them they are losing shares on a market.  They did just that on the 6D to keep the same price point held by the 5d2 when they launched the 5d3 on a higher tier.  Judging by the amount of people shooting 5d3s, I’d say they’re not worried about having their price points set too high on the 6D.

True - Though IMO the 6D was brought to the market only to compete with the D600. Canon also probably introduced the 6D as a new product with the WiFi and GPS rather than a rehashed 5D2. I don't think a $ 1,100 FF will ever be released by Canon unless the competition drives them to it.

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Lenses / Re: WA lens advice 16-35 II or the TSE 17

« on: June 11, 2013, 01:42:01 AM »

Tender Loving Care. 

Also, no front filter threads on the TS-E 17L.

IQ is very good with the 1.4x - check TDP's ISO 12233 crops.

Ok .

No filter threads is a bummer though. Any workarounds?

I use this from Fotodiox. Beautifully made and works ....wonders. Shown here with a circular polarizer.

Awesome ... thanks for the help!

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Lenses / Re: WA lens advice 16-35 II or the TSE 17

« on: June 10, 2013, 03:51:41 AM »

Once you get used to TS-Es, you'll wish that all your lenses had those movements!  But it's manual and you'll have to have a different workflow to get the best out of it.  A lot of people have chimed in that it requires a bit more care because of its convex front element, but care should also be taken with water.  There are hinges and slots for the movements, and they are not sealed.

Shift is easy to do handheld, but controlling the DOF precisely to throw more of the frame in focus will require live view/tripod.  Exposure bracketing and post processing can simulate NDs.  Whereas filters put all the work up front, the TS-17 will require less work up front but more at the backend.  Yes, some filter setups are starting to come out for these lenses, but I'm not keen on carrying a bag of lenses and then another bag for the larger filters.  Some can't be simulated (i.e. polarizer) but some tilt movements can't be simulated in post either.  It's a trade off.

I see more of a difference between AF/MF rather than MF and tilt shift.  If you don't use the TS functions, then you'll essentially have an awesome non-weather resistant MF lens...

Thanks ... I used a TS-E 24mm for over a month earlier this year and loved it. I was initially planning to get that lens but I've heard that the TS-E 17 works pretty well with the 1.4x extender so that's basically two lenses in one (with the extender attached). The 24-70 II is excellent @ 24mm where the TS functions are not required so I'm now going to get the TS-17.

The TS functions are a steep learning curve but the shots were excellent when I got it right.

I'm quite used to shooting with a tripod since I had issues with my left wrist last year. Though the ailment is gone, I find myself using the tripod more often than not so this should not be a problem.

Still feel that not having the option to use filters is a bummer so I will have to improve my PP ... I guess one can't have everything 

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Lenses / Re: WA lens advice 16-35 II or the TSE 17

« on: June 10, 2013, 03:37:37 AM »

Thanks for the replies. I'm going to buy the TS-E 17mm next month.

The only thing that I am left wondering is whether it would be smarter to get a used 17-40 as well for a "grab and go lens" as Neuro mentioned above.

Cheers ... J.R.