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EOS Bodies / Re: Upgrade to 5dmk2 or wait for 5dmk3?

« on: December 17, 2011, 04:41:53 PM »

"My question is: if you put a 24L on a Mk2 and a future higher 30+mp Mk3 and compare same shot, will you really see such a visible difference in image IQ you put mainly on the web?"

Crjiro: you can't tell there will be 30+ mp in mk3. See 1dx. I don't think MPs would cause better quality for web in this case. Better sensor in terms of banding at lower iso plus lower noise at higher iso plus broader tonal range (see pentax) would cause better pictures. Assuming you would catch focus on your object btw

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EOS Bodies / Re: Upgrade to 5dmk2 or wait for 5dmk3?

« on: December 17, 2011, 03:50:40 PM »

Hi. A lot of people would ask you first about two things:
1. Reasons you want to upgrade (what you expect after upgrade)
2. What do you shoot (is 5d2 or 5d3 going to be more suitable for your needs).

But... Let's assume you expect better quality at higher iso, FF imaging but not better AF behaviour.

As far as no one (could be that Canon itself) yet knows what 5d3 is to be equipped with (iso, fps, mp, af, video) and when it would be released it is really not possible now to put any reasonable answer regarding 5d3 as its possibilities as well its price or time to market.

I can tell you reasons I would go now:
1. Time. A lot of people say you shouldn't expect 5d3 sooner than next Autumn. I wouldn't like to wait another 9 months to see what is to be born, what price is to be and what is it going to look like.
2. improvements. After 5d3 is presented you could be dissapointed, that it took you so much time to see that there was AF worse than current 7d, less MP than 5d2 and only iso 2 stops better than current 5d2.
3. Money. How much will it cost you to buy 5d2 now and upgrade to 5d3 when it is released. Let's assume you pay now 2000$ and in a year sell it for 1400$. It would cost you 50$ monthly for using 5d2. Are you ready to spend this money for fun of having 5d2? You must answer yourself...

But again. No one can assure you 100% that 5d3 wouldn't be announced (for any unknown reasons) in January, cost less than 5d2 now and have a better performance. It is just so NOT probable, that three reasons I gave you have more value for me, than hoping for better for less and now.

BTW 7d is a great camera. If you haven't shot 5d2 before, I would kindly advise you to find it somewhere (ie shop with used equippement) and take for a weekend just for comparison. Maybe it's better to go 7d in you case?

Hope it helps.

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Landscape / Re: Snow in artificial light

« on: December 16, 2011, 06:50:32 PM »

Artistically, I agree with everyone else, that the third one looks best and gives more of a feeling of a ski slope because of the cool temperature.

Is it maybe also because the rest of the image became more blue/cool so the brain's color tolerance/perception interpreted the whole image as more natural although snow was not at all?

Following branden's suggestions I developed image again, now in Lightroom and performed some local hue and saturation corrections.
Is it better now? If so, which of new versions do you find better?

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Landscape / Re: Snow in artificial light

« on: December 16, 2011, 02:45:26 PM »

I guess for me, aside from just the "feel" of it, in the third photo the snow looks white vs. dirty (photo 1) or peed on (photo 2).  By your own words it looks "cold" but snow is supposed be cold, so IMHO the color balance reinforces the subject.

Good point, man

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Landscape / Re: Snow in artificial light

« on: December 16, 2011, 12:47:17 PM »

Thanks for opinions. I must say - if you state 3rd is better, then probably it is...

It's something funny in this, that the better looking picture (3) is not, what I remembered, it rather looked in reality (1)

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Landscape / Re: Snow in artificial light

« on: December 15, 2011, 08:50:54 PM »

Branden, thanks for your tips, I'll try in Lightroom following your instructions. In fact those were developed in Apperture (I was using DPP but currently testing Apperture).

The two first photos were a bit lighter - I cut them off a little bit. Attached first picture is corrected, the second one - original.

You are right - I also think, when there's no skin tone on picture or things don't look too warm when shot with AWB at the bulb light, it's not absolutely neccessary to be so puristic regarding the white balance. But since the lamps  cover the much smaller piece of picture themselve, than the area they really affect, it creates some strange "artificial" and unreal effect I wish to avoid.

On this picture lamps on the left and right sides are about 2000K, in the middle 2100K. So the third attached photo is white balanced with 2050K. Too cold... None of the pictures'  balances I like. It seems really uneasy task to correct it properly, as you say.

Thanks, +1

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Landscape / Snow in artificial light

« on: December 15, 2011, 06:38:56 PM »

Yesterday I tried to shoot some skiing and surrounding area around 8PM, what means completely dark in this area. It supposed to be landscapes shooting in artificial lighting of lamps. Those lamps unfortunately vary a lot in colour temperature giving different tints of snow: from pink, blue to green depending on which area (which lamp's light) you point when setting the white balance. I tried to correct it but am not quite satisfied with the results.

How do you handle this in postprocessing? Below I attach some shots to give you better understanding of the problem.
Please advise best methods. Should I simply select all the snow area and make it monochrome?

Shot with 5D2, 24-105 L, ISO 1600/3200, F4,5-7,1, 1/5-1/30s.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A full frame compact camera with mega megapixel?

« on: December 12, 2011, 05:49:53 PM »

5dmk3 has a chance to be mirrorless...

"Dear grandchildren. When your father was about to be born I bought a new Canon 5dmk2 to document this great moment. I gave you this one last Christmas, when they announced the next model, remember? Now I can give you this brand new 5dmk3, mirrorless and finally 36MP, 25600 ISO native, 10fps beautiful camera. Your grandfather will not have a lot fun with it but you still can. Remember to pass it to your grandchildren when they would announce 5dmk4. We have a valuable collection of white lens (with a new great 70-200 f4 L IS mk 17 with new coatings on AF/MF button) so call it a family tradition"...

Sorry, just bored waiting

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Lens Giveaway Contest / Re: Contest Announcement!

« on: December 07, 2011, 05:36:00 PM »

As far canon wins here all the time...

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Lens Giveaway Contest / Re: *Contest* Wildlife - Post Here.

« on: November 14, 2011, 05:03:18 PM »

Surprised...

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Lens Giveaway Contest / Re: *Contest* Black & White - Post Here.

« on: November 14, 2011, 03:39:03 AM »

flight

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Lens Giveaway Contest / Re: *Contest* Street - Post Here.

« on: November 14, 2011, 03:30:52 AM »

a car

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Lens Giveaway Contest / Re: *Contest* Landscape - Post Here.

« on: November 14, 2011, 03:11:47 AM »

boat

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Lens Giveaway Contest / Re: *Contest* Landscape - Post Here.

« on: November 14, 2011, 03:08:14 AM »

Sunset in Croatia

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EOS Bodies / Re: Concept Cinema DSLR Official

« on: November 03, 2011, 09:44:28 PM »

"(...) new-concept EOS-series digital single-lens reflex (SLR) camera". It means for me, that it's not going to be 5mdk3. The are to split still and video. 5dmk3 in terms of still will probably be focused on still photography (36MP and so on) with limited video capabilities. New C line (and new FF video camera, yet under development) will be focused on video, with limited photography capabilities.

As far as this forum was for assumptions and rumors, I could speculate, that the EOS hierarchy could look like this in the future

STILL photography line
5d3 - middle market, 1d(whatever new, not mentioned yet) - top model for studio
7d2 - middle market, 1dx - top model for sports, nature
the rest

VIDEO Line
C300 - high end (as far)
EOS "C" FF (under development) - middle market
EOS "C" super 35 (not mentioned) - low market