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Lenses / Re: Is the EF 800 f/5.6L IS Due for Replacement? [CR2]
« on: November 20, 2012, 04:05:53 PM »
I've seen that picture posted a bunch of times, but never realized the lenses that are beside it are the New FD 600mm f/4.5 L and New FD 400mm f/2.8 L and just how small they look in comparison.

Here is a picture of two of the now extinct FD 1200's with TC at the 1984 LA Olympics.

What are those two odd-looking black lenses in the picture?   ;)
I know you're just joking, but I got curious and looked it up.  The one in the background appears to be a Nikkor AI-S 600mm f/4 ED IF or a Nikkor AI 600mm f/4 ED IF

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Lenses / Re: Is the EF 800 f/5.6L IS Due for Replacement? [CR2]
« on: November 20, 2012, 10:23:54 AM »
1993 EF 1200mm f/5.6L USM
That lens has been out of production well over a decade, and the number of units in likely in the 10's.  Not a good example of the point you are trying to make, but I do agree with you that there are many other lenses badly in need of replacement.  The 50mm macro and 135mm SF are prime examples, however, I can't see Canon actually producing a new softfocus, as photography styles have shifted away from that since the 1980's and the effect can easily be replicated in post.  My money would be on 35L, 50 1.4, 300 4, 400 5.6, 800L, 45 TS-E, and 90 TS-E replacements next year.  That's a pretty full year right there.  Unfortunately, the cheapest lenses will be the 50 1.4 and I'm guessing an MSRP around $700-800.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D600 price drop $1,996
« on: November 18, 2012, 01:30:54 PM »
Immediate price drop for 6D?  I'll bet dollars-to-donuts it will be so (<$2000 before Jan 1).

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Lenses / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« on: November 15, 2012, 05:31:12 PM »
Maybe a bit off topic but can somebody please explain how a f/2.0 lens becomes f/3.5 on 1.6 crop. I understand a focal lenght 'change' but never heard of an aperture change. Thank you.

This is exactly the reason I try to fight the 'equivalent aperture' that so many people online insert.  It just confuses people that don't understand it.

24-70 f4 and 6D is available at Camera Canada with January delivery for $3299.00. 

$1200 for the kit lens, ouch.  The Nikon D600 + 24-85 VR is going to kill this combo.  It'll drop $500 in 6 months or less to be competitive.  You heard it here first.  Canon cannot afford to lose on price AND marketing specs and expect comparable sales.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Refurbished 5D MK3s?
« on: November 07, 2012, 06:33:59 PM »
Lensrentals has a used one in 8/10 condition for $2775 with a standard 90-day warranty and 3-day return period.

http://www.lensrentals.com/buy/canon/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-serial-number-022021002455

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Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: AA Battery Charger and Batteries
« on: November 07, 2012, 12:12:51 PM »
I am very happy with my Energizer NiMH batteries and compact chargers. The batteries hold a charge very well. My first rechargeable batteries and charger were from PowerEx... the charger is good, but the batteries were the worst. I still have the charger but the batteries are no longer in my bag.

I had Energizer NiMH batteries for year in various electronics around the house, including an older P&S that took AA's.  I was constantly disappointed by them.  Not one of them holds a change now, and most won't even charge anymore (blinking light on charger indicating faulty battery).  I use Sanyo Eneloop batteries exclusively now.  They are very reliable, and from what I've found, hold a charge for a very long time in storage between charges.

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Lenses / Re: Canon Makes the EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS Official
« on: November 05, 2012, 11:56:15 PM »
Glad I got the 35mm f/2 for a steal.  This new one is way above what I can justify for my hobby.

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Lenses / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« on: November 05, 2012, 01:38:06 PM »
If this indeed replaces the 24-105mm (in price and position in the lens lineup), put yourself in the shoes of a buyer for first-time FF camera:

D600 (24MP) + AF-S 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 VR = $2600
6D (20MP) + EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM = $2900

D600 >> 6D

Even if the 24-70mm delivers substantially better IQ, the average consumer is going to buy the Nikon on numbers alone.  If Canon cannot put a $500 kit lens with the 6D they are going to be steamrolled.

EDIT:  Add in the fact that the D600 has a built in flash (extra $160 for an EX270 II), an impressive sounding 39 autofocus points and a bigger screen, Canon's sales will suffer a lot.

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Lenses / Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS
« on: November 05, 2012, 08:22:05 AM »
Why the filter size of 77mm still?  Why didn't they make it 67mm just like the 70-200mm f4L and IS?  I guess the 17-40mm f/4L is also 77mm, but I see most first-time FF users pairing this lens up first with the tele zoom and then adding the UWA later.

Same is true for the rumored 35mm.  Why 67mm (up from 52mm of the previous model)?  I would think that 58mm just like the 24 and 28mm IS lenses would make a lot more sense.  58mm is easily big enough to squeeze in the objective element for 35mm f/2.  The objective elements in the 24mm and 28mm are a larger diameter than they mathematically need to be, and maybe that factors into their excellent performance.  Maybe the 35mm f/2 is even larger and will have similar or superior IQ because of it.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: November 01, 2012, 04:31:17 PM »
"rumored" canon 14-24 l 2.8 + 24-70 2.8 ii + 70-200 2.8 is ii - this is the pro setup.

Some f4 wide angle (ex. 12-24 f4) + 24-70 f4 is + canon 70-200 f4 is -enthusiast setup
I think the f/2.8 wide angle will be 14-24mm, but I think the f/4 will be 16-35 IS to directly compete in all aspects with the Nikon lens.  That will make it wider than the current f/4, sharper (as pretty much all lenses have been over their predecessors) and likely more expensive.  Hopefully, Canon will come out with cheaper variable aperture [or non-IS] UWA to replace the long-extinct 20-35mm f/3.5-4.5 USM for the lower end of the budget (~$500), as well.  Think about this (as a beginner):

Canon 6D + '24-70mm f/4 IS'  = $2600 (same price as Nikon D600 kit)
Canon '18-35mm f/4' or '16-35mm non-IS' = $500
Canon 70-200mm f/4 USM = $630
TOTAL = $3730

Pretty sweet [theoretical] package for <$4000, right?  Not that 2 of the three lenses even exist, but it is certainly possible.

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Lenses / Re: EF-M 55mm f/1.3 Coming in 2013? [CR1]
« on: November 01, 2012, 02:25:49 PM »
Comparing a D30 with a 1DX is as silly as comparing Velveeta with Cojack.

In your hypothetical world, yes, I think your assertion is correct that a frame with a crop factor of 1.4x would have 1 stop worse noise (and 2x would be 2 stops, 0.7x would have a 1 stop advantage, etc).  However we don't live in the world of film anymore and not all sensors are created equal at the pixel level and simply scale by overal size of the sensor.

But facedodge's statement is still true that the exposure triangle remains unchanged (f/2.8, ISO 400, 1/250 is the same no matter what format the camera is in) is still completely valid.  I understand people pointing out the DOF different in formats in terms of equivalence, but I think stating the same thing in ISO would only serve to confuse less informed people attempting to understand the fundamentals of photography and the differences in formats.

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Well, if we're talking lenses too:

2010 - 18-55mm II (sold in 2011)
2010 - 50mm f/1.8 II (sold in 2011)
2011 - 100-300mm USM (sold in 2012)
2011 - 28mm f/2.8 (sold in 2012)
2011 - 28-135mm (sold in 2012)
2011 - 17-85mm (currently for sale)
2012 - 50mm f/1.8 I
2012 - 35mm f/2
2012 - Tamron 200-400mm f/5.6 (sold 2012)
2012 - 85mm f/1.8 USM
2012 - 70-210mm USM
2012 - 15mm Fisheye
2012 - 28-105mm II USM
2012 - Tamron 19-35mm f/3.5-4.5

A lot of the stuff I have (and had) was purchased broken and fixed.  I've fixed 7 lenses, 13 bodies, and a flash commander.  In all, out of pocket over the past 3 years I have spent just a shade over $1000 for all my equipment (and profitted around $1500 fixing stuff I never intended to keep).  Not a bad hobby, and it keeps my wife happy that my photography interest doesn't really cost anything, as I haven't spent above what I make fixing stuff, and occasionally keeping stuff I've fixed.

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1999 - Nikon FM (HS photography class)
2002 - Sony P71 P&S
2006 - Canon SD600
2010 - Canon XT
2011 - Canon XTi
2012 (Feb) - Canon 30D (also picked up an S90)
2012 (Sep) - Canon 5D

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Lenses / Re: EF-M 55mm f/1.3 Coming in 2013? [CR1]
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:05:45 PM »
Actually, when you take noise into effect, you also have to decrease the effective aperture to get a valid comparison with a larger format. I can't do the math, but it's also roughly a stop.

That is, f/1.3 @ ISO 100 on APS-C really is comparable to f/2.0 @ ISO 200 on full frame. And f/1.3 @ ISO 100 on full frame would be comparable to f/1.0 @ ISO 50 on APS-C. (Roughly, with rounding, etc., etc., etc.)

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So the noise from a EOS D30 (2001) is one stop behind the 1D X?  I don't think so.  Everyone understands noise is in constant flux throughout models, formats, etc.  So I think it is fair to leave noise out of the equation as it is not a constant like shutter speed and aperture.  Given two models of camera it is fair to make a comparison on the level of noise and how many stops of advantage one has over another, but to make a blanket statement is not fair.

Here's the math:

FF crop factor: 1
APS-C crop factor: 1.6

f/1.3 * 1.6 = f/2.0 equivalent 90mm (for background blur of 55mm f/1.3 lens in FF terms)
f/1.3 / 1.6 = f/0.83 equivalent (although your point is misleading as an EF-M lens has a flange distance too short for a FF DSLR - and most likely an image circle to small to cover a full frame sensor)

All you need to do is multiply the aperture (or focal length) by the crop factor to go up in formats, and divide to go down.

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Lenses / Re: EF-M 55mm f/1.3 Coming in 2013? [CR1]
« on: October 31, 2012, 04:34:40 PM »
"For arguments sake, that would give an approximate field of view of 90mm f/1.3. A nice portrait lens for the new system."

Just to clarify, it would be the approximate equivalent of a 90mm f/2.0 FF lens. You have to take the crop factor into account when comparing apertures as well as focal lengths.
It only took 3 responses for someone to state the DOF-aperture comparison.
Yeah... DOF would be about f/2 compared to full frame, but you still get the low light advantage of f/1.3 and you get the normal lens look too if that is something you like.
And one more to correct the statement to not confuse people about the unchanged exposure triangle.  Good job, CR commenters.

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