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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 5D Mk3 Grainy footage. Any ideas?
« on: March 04, 2014, 09:59:50 AM »
With a late 2013 8 Core Mac Pro and 32GB RAM, I'm not really worried about my machine freezing, but rather MY inability to correctly / efficiently post-process my video files. Despite using the same custom WB, my colors just don't seem as vibrant/accurate as my stills, and despite meticulous focusing (on a tripod,m statically shooting men's volleyball), the output is not as sharp as I would expect - so if any of the more experienced can point me in the right direction for fast-action video settings and post-processing tips, I'd appreciate that.  :)

HDMI doesn't really improve the video quality much.

Canon nerfed the 5D3 pretty good to make it look appreciably  worse than their Cinema EOS line.  Your only option for increased sharpness and color is magic lantern. 

And with your shiny new Mac Pro, the work flow should be a breeze.

EOS Bodies / Re: Will Canon Answer the D4s? [CR2]
« on: February 07, 2014, 05:38:40 PM »
This is like wondering when will Apple respond to HP and Dell's workstations with a new Mac Pro (which is thankfully out now).  Just like Apple, Canon can afford to wait until they have something worth putting out. Top-of-the line might be where the "pro" reputations are made, but the money is made toward the bottom-end. So don't be too surprised that Canon takes their sweet time.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 5D Mk3 Grainy footage. Any ideas?
« on: February 06, 2014, 03:06:23 PM »
Your clip is simply underexposed. Expose it properly and you'll be fine. There's no way to fix a shot like that. And shooting All-I won't make any difference. Underexposed is underexposed. Additionally, shooting All-I is overkill for web video and the like. IPB is fine unless you're shooting for theatrical projection.

I think the banding is making the noise look worse than it actually is.  And IPB actually has less banding, so my guess is that All-I would make it look worse.

Video & Movie / Re: Jaws! Giant wave surfing action 7D and 5D3
« on: February 06, 2014, 03:04:40 PM »
Nice footage. Totally insane.


Remember, the c300 uses an 8K sensor and intelligently down-samples to 1080 in camera. So if we are only getting 2.5K reads off a sensor, then it's not like this "new camera" would necessarily be using as much or more image data.

Actually it's a 4K sensor downsampled in camera to 1080p.

I think i've made this mistake 100 times now.  ;D You are correct, it's 8MP or 4K.

don't care for video, don't need or want "global shutter" in a DSLR.

You still get rolling shutter artifacts (skew) when taking pictures of fast moving objects.

I'm having a hard time believing this. It seems like Canon would introduce this on their C series of cinema cameras before their regular DSLR line. Same being true with the higher resolution (2.5K) video.

Remember, the c300 uses an 8MP sensor and intelligently down-samples to 1080 in camera. So if we are only getting 2.5K reads off a sensor, then it's not like this "new camera" would necessarily be using as much or more image data. 

It helps rolling shuttter in video:

× Small | Large

In most cmos sensors, using global shutter means a loss in dynamic range. If they do this, hopefully it will be raw, but I doubt it.

I think this rumor is just pure speculation.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is ARRI Canon's Biggest Obstacle in Professional Cinema?
« on: January 20, 2014, 01:32:22 PM »
The TV market is where money is made, and Canon is doing pretty well there.

But for the high end market, the c500 isn't really in the mix. 

EOS Bodies / Re: The Next DSLR Will Be Entry Level [CR3]
« on: January 18, 2014, 08:27:42 AM »

HurtinMinorKey, Don't let them drive you off! More iPhone-itis quotes (either still or video quotes are just fine), please.   & please, please, PLEASE keep quoting Ken Rockwell! (ur not Ken, using another handle, r u??) 

& I thought being stuck at home on a Friday night was going to be boring....

I aim to please/entertain/enrage. One thing i've realized over the years on this forum: nothing gets you more responses of righteous indignation than citing Ken Rockwell.  That make him a pretty powerful tool;)

EOS Bodies / Re: The Next DSLR Will Be Entry Level [CR3]
« on: January 17, 2014, 04:51:46 PM »

I have both the T3 and 5D2, for anything other than landscapes and low-light I prefer the T3.

For size and convenience, the T3 is amazing.

When I took my first picture with the T3 in 2012 (previously using a SD780IS), I forgot to focus the image, and it looked better than anything I had seen come out of a camera to that point.

By the same token, i bet there are a lot of people would say the same thing about the iphone vs. the T3:  "For size and convenience, the (5S) is amazing."

EOS Bodies / Re: The Next DSLR Will Be Entry Level [CR3]
« on: January 17, 2014, 04:48:25 PM »
So, you're saying that combining the small physical size of the SL1 with the price of the T3 would obviously be stupid move...and that proves just how much smarter you are compared to Canon?  Right.   ::)

And how would this not cannibalize the SL1 sales?  You might as well just cut the price if the SL1.

And so you think Canon has been killing it?

^S&P 500 vs Canon over past yr.

EOS Bodies / Re: The Next DSLR Will Be Entry Level [CR3]
« on: January 17, 2014, 04:34:07 PM »
Well, they already did that with the 100D, so what's the next step?  Make a cheaper version that still makes the people who wouldn't pick up a P&S "because their iPhone's camera is almost as good" think that it's worth buying.  Those of us who are already in the Canon ecosystem complain about Canon releasing a cheaper 100D instead of upgrading something we want.  Canon doesn't care, because when the consumer with a smartphone looks a little higher than what they'd spend on a P&S and sees a dSLR, they'll think "it looks professional, so it must take better pictures", and they buy it.  Canon has just performed a little upsell, and gotten more money from that consumer than they would have spent on a P&S.

I think you are correct in that this is what they are thinking.  But I also think that if they try this, they will undercut the sales of the 100D, or if the quality is appreciably worse, fail to sell completely.

But maybe they don't care. Maybe they figure that if they can get more people into EF-S lenses, they should make the cheapest entry point possible.

EOS Bodies / Re: The Next DSLR Will Be Entry Level [CR3]
« on: January 17, 2014, 03:23:48 PM »
Were we, dude?  Only video?

Yes, the person i was responding when you took my quote out of context was talking about video. Stop being lazy and read the chain of responses before you respond out of context.

Clearly you should not, dude.  If Canon does release a body that comes in under the 100D in the lineup, it will be because they are pretty damn sure there's a profitable market for it.  But I'm sure that you know Canon's customer base better far better than they do, it's not like they sell many cameras or anything like that.  ::)

Yes, canon really has their thumb on the pulse of this end of the market. Like how they cut the price of the EOS M from $800 to $350 in the span of a year.

I'm sure that was their plan all along.  :o

EOS Bodies / Re: The Next DSLR Will Be Entry Level [CR3]
« on: January 17, 2014, 02:01:50 PM »

I rahter suspect most people currently buying an entry level dSLR already have a camera phone (and in the US, odds are it's a smartphone with a decent camera), and are buying a dSLR because the camera phone isn't meeting their needs.

Do you a lesson on the effect of sensor size on image quality?  Maybe I'll let Phil Schiller school you…

iPhone 5s has 'bigger and better' pixels that are 1.5 µm in size.  The T3 has 'biggerer and betterer' pixels that are ~3.5 times larger, in a sensor with an 18 times larger area.  Bigger sensor = better picture.

Sure, you can use a good processor and apply gobs of noise reduction.  Unfortunately, it isn't free - it comes at the expense of lost detail. 

Darn, those clues are so bloody elusive…I see you still haven't found one yet.  Keep looking...

Pay attention dude, we were talking about video.  And how you downsample/process your pixels can have a dramatic effect on IQ. The iphone is just better at that. 

I never claimed it had better low light performance in stills.

Also, the market segment you describe must be huge, of young couples with children (as you mentioned earlier) who have iphones, are tight on money,  but can afford to throw away 400$ on a marginally better imaging device.  ::)

You should apply for a job at Canon. 

The point is, there isn't a profitable niche in IQ BETWEEN the iPhone (or comparable) and 100D @~$400.  I'll further remind you that that's also where the Nikon 1 and Canon M live (in terms of price).

So either they release a product that cannibalizes the sales of the 100D because it's effectively just as good for less money, or they make it noticeably worse and it fails because that means it's no better than its price competitive alternatives(above phones or mirrorless cams). 

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