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EOS Bodies / Re: Mobius by Vincent Laforet on the EOS C300
« on: November 08, 2011, 01:36:54 PM »
People want tech that looks good right now. And there is reason to believe that the C300 looks better than the red at 1080, so it can still compete in the format that's currently most in demand.  Clearly there are problems with Red's sensor if directors need to adjust makeup and set design to account for it, and it doesn't seem to be a problem that can be fixed in post, even in RAW.

I like the Red concept. But I've been disappointed at the quality of the feature films I've seen shot on it.

Also, I think the people working at RED certainly were not laughing, and their actions support this notion. Because at the end of the day, the Red Scarlet is just a nerfed version of the old Red Epic. After all that time, that's their new technology??????  That should have taken them 2 days, not two years.

Lets face it, RED knew Canon was jumping into the game;  but Red was nowhere close to feasible new technology, so they decided to rename old technology and just throw it out there. 



 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Mobius by Vincent Laforet on the EOS C300
« on: November 07, 2011, 08:38:44 PM »
I don't know who Canon is competing with a $20K price range, the Sony F3? It certainly isn't the Scarlet-X. Why pay more for a video system that performs poorly against its cheaper rival? Only an idiot would do that.

Here's an article from Canon Digital Learning Center that, I think, gives a nice explanation of what exactly were the people at Canon smoking when they designed the C300 and who they think they're selling this thing to. What they're basically claming is that this camera performs well enough for most people potentially interested in buying one and it's way easier and faster to work with than any of the current 4K cameras. It would appear that they've done their research and discovered that there's plenty of "idiots" out there to justify the R&D costs.


And these people are idiots because?

Whats with the 4k obsession?   Is there anyone out there gonna even use it?   If the this camera (C300) does a better job rendering color than the Red cameras, than it might be worth it. 

Ya know, the new i-phone has a 8 mpix camera, does that make it as good as the 1D mkii?   :o

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EOS Bodies / Re: Mobius by Vincent Laforet on the EOS C300
« on: November 06, 2011, 07:51:05 PM »
Q: Is the Bayer pattern on the C300 equivalent to chroma sampling 4k @ 4:2:0? It looks like it to me. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: RED - Scarlet.....
« on: November 04, 2011, 07:10:05 PM »
So the difference between Red and Canon is? ???

If canon charges you $20K for a Camera, you're actors won't have to wear special makeup(see post about the hobbit above) to account for sketchy color.

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EOS Bodies / Re: RED - Scarlet.....
« on: November 04, 2011, 02:02:17 PM »
At first glance, based on the specs, one would have to agree, but the only way to truly tell the difference is side by side comparison of performance.

Red has always had trouble reproducing colors accurately.  Just compare blu-ray copies of "Fight Club" to "the Social Network" (both by badass director David Fincher).

Fight Club (shot on film) looks sooooo much better than the social network (shot on red epic) it's not even funny.

I'd rather have good color at 2k than so-so color at 4k.  If canon can do this, then maybe it's worth the extra coin.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Mobius by Vincent Laforet on the EOS C300
« on: November 04, 2011, 11:45:18 AM »
How come there isn't a lot of discussion about the new video camera? Are people disappointed?  Isn't the 50Mbs the same data rate as the 5DMKII? Doesn't it use the same codec as 1Dx? So why the is it $20K?

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EOS Bodies / Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« on: November 03, 2011, 09:04:29 PM »
Nice response RED. Their website just melted down.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Live Coverage of the Announcement
« on: November 03, 2011, 08:37:24 PM »
So why is this camera 2X as expensive as the 1Dx when the output is the same essentially?

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EOS Bodies / Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« on: November 03, 2011, 08:26:10 PM »
Looks like they are really trying to emphasize that this thing does an amazing job of color reproduction. People are nailing it for not being 4k output thought. $20 is kinda steep though. Still...if it does a better job of color reproduction that Red Camera, then even at 2k it will be worth it.

But seriously, can it be that much better than the 1dx?  They both produce the same output, with the same compression.

Someone help me out here...

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EOS Bodies / Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« on: November 03, 2011, 05:59:42 PM »
Red make their announcement 3 hrs later, allowing them to decide their price point no doubt  ;)

or time to make up lies about scarlet's specifications once they get outgunned and under priced.

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EOS Bodies / Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« on: November 02, 2011, 02:15:05 PM »
Does anyone know what time this announcement is going to be? 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Max CF Card size that can be used in the 5D2?
« on: November 02, 2011, 01:42:34 PM »
For continuous stills in RAW @ 3.9 fps, 100MBs write speed.

Video requires a lot less, like 6 MBs.

I use 80 MBs cards, but I rarely shoot rapid fire.




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EOS Bodies / Re: Max CF Card size that can be used in the 5D2?
« on: November 02, 2011, 11:41:55 AM »
I don't see any reason why 64GB wouldn't work. There is nothing on the specs sheet that has that has card size as a limiting factor.

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* The \
« on: October 31, 2011, 04:28:34 PM »
You are forgetting the fact that Canon is choosing to announce the same day as Red Scarlet.

There is no way Scarlet is going to be priced anywhere above $15k, so that leads me to believe that whatever Canon is going to announce that day will compete in that price range.

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* The \
« on: October 31, 2011, 12:58:44 PM »
Interesting to see a small visionary American company taking on Canon on the very same day!

http://www.red.com/

Feeling more than very let down by Canon over the not for me new 1D line I rather hope they trump their Oriental competitors.


Do you mean the re-announcement of Scarlett by Red?  Is was already announced in 2008 for shipment in 2009?  Are some still waiting for it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_Scarlet


Come on, Japan has been a US military outpost since WWII.  That makes them part of the empire in my book.

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