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EOS Bodies / Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« on: November 02, 2011, 02:15:05 PM »
Does anyone know what time this announcement is going to be? 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Max CF Card size that can be used in the 5D2?
« on: November 02, 2011, 01:42:34 PM »
For continuous stills in RAW @ 3.9 fps, 100MBs write speed.

Video requires a lot less, like 6 MBs.

I use 80 MBs cards, but I rarely shoot rapid fire.




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EOS Bodies / Re: Max CF Card size that can be used in the 5D2?
« on: November 02, 2011, 11:41:55 AM »
I don't see any reason why 64GB wouldn't work. There is nothing on the specs sheet that has that has card size as a limiting factor.

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* The \
« on: October 31, 2011, 04:28:34 PM »
You are forgetting the fact that Canon is choosing to announce the same day as Red Scarlet.

There is no way Scarlet is going to be priced anywhere above $15k, so that leads me to believe that whatever Canon is going to announce that day will compete in that price range.

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* The \
« on: October 31, 2011, 12:58:44 PM »
Interesting to see a small visionary American company taking on Canon on the very same day!

http://www.red.com/

Feeling more than very let down by Canon over the not for me new 1D line I rather hope they trump their Oriental competitors.


Do you mean the re-announcement of Scarlett by Red?  Is was already announced in 2008 for shipment in 2009?  Are some still waiting for it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_Scarlet


Come on, Japan has been a US military outpost since WWII.  That makes them part of the empire in my book.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The \
« on: October 31, 2011, 11:31:35 AM »

The Arri sensor is not FF in the same way the Canon 5D is.... it is not a 24x36 sensor.
The Alexa sensor has an image out size of 23.76 mm x 13.37 mm (16:9) is  2880 x 1620 Pixels

The Alexa, and Sony F3 are both super-35 equivalent  sensors (with the dimensions mentioned above), which are less than full frame. 


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EOS Bodies / Re: Dan Chung Talks EOS-1D X Video
« on: October 28, 2011, 01:24:55 PM »
i mean, this is a Photo Camera, and all i hear is about video and video.
And don't misunderstand me. I like that we can have video as well, but like the canon guy in the video says, it seems they actually don't know what they are doing and where to go next.

Like we all know a good photo is one with a strong subject and it seems to me we can make an analogy with this whole thing as well.

We are talking about the 1D X, then Canon should concentrate on photography. If we were interested in Video we would have bought a video camera instead.

I guess Canon has themselves in a bit of a pickle by putting video on a high end camera like this. It should be good, but at the same time, it's as if any resources dedicated to video on this camera are an insult to people who want the best possible pictures for the money.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Dan Chung Talks EOS-1D X Video
« on: October 28, 2011, 12:09:42 PM »
The problem is we don't know what the boffins in their white coats have been cooking up in the labs.

If you watch the video the rep mentions a few times that the 1DX is a PRO Photography DSLR camera, the video was extra.
He makes that point clear a few times.
This is why it sounds to me like they are going to try and release a PRO Video DSLR e.g. the next 5D model being that its been accepted unofficially by the industry as being the video DSLR of choice already.

You mention line skipping but as they said in the video that it has been reduced dramatically with the new sensor, remember that this is the Photo DSLR, it then makes me wonder what the Video version could achieve.


I think the line skipping has been reduced(certainly in the 1Dx) because of better/more processors. They cant give a 5D this type of fire power in 4k or it will be essentially capable of faster fps of stills as the 1dX

You have a good point about the brand name of 5D for the video industry. Maybe we see a 5Dmkii-s that is video dedicated. However, I don't think that's in the lineup for nov 2.  I think  Canon needs to hit the Red scarlet from above and below in terms of pricing/features, and I think they will.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Dan Chung Talks EOS-1D X Video
« on: October 27, 2011, 07:24:40 PM »
There is also the other possibility that people seem to gloss over.

The one of Canon is reducing its line and creating a more streamlined product portfolio.

Merge the 1D series into one PRO photography line camera.
Change the 5D to make it PRO video focused, Who knows we may eventually see that 4K video Canon 5D3 HDSLR for under $3k everyone is dreaming of.

I just don't see them using the full frame sensor(you'd have line skipping problems again),  for a video camera @ $3k , so how are they gonna use a smaller sensor and still call it a 5D?. It doesn't make any sense. They need to differentiate from their existing cameras (by pricing above probably).  This means a new lineup.


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EOS Bodies / Re: Dan Chung Talks EOS-1D X Video
« on: October 27, 2011, 05:30:31 PM »
Though there definitely seems to be some welcome improvements on their video features, it's troubling to see this artificial limiting of their tech...the fact that they refuse to simply remove the bitmap from the HDMI out (and the rep's stuttering reaction when asked about it) is perfect evidence. This fix would not require any additional board space, hardware, or technology...simply strike the one line of code for the bitmap feature in the firmware and you have a clean feed. This isn't like with the audio-vs-ethernet port (which I understand)...the whole "this is a stills camera" argument doesn't really apply...just ditch the bitmap. The way he responded, too...they thought this would step on the toes of the video camera department? So they're deliberately crippling the video features so you'll be forced to commit to a video camera for video or a stills camera for stills (or blow your savings on both), instead of accepting that this division in camera technology is history. RED makes hybrids. They're making EF lens mounts. On November 3rd, they're probably going to release an (actually) affordable hybrid camera that will probably destroy what Canon releases that day. We're sort of running out of reasons to stick with Canon and their table scraps. I've loved my Canon cameras, and I'll always buy their lenses, but I think if RED drops something under $7K, a lot of people are jumping ship. They actually seem to give a damn about delivering the best product they have.

True they did nerf the tech on the camera to differentiate it from the upcoming video cameras, but I think your wrong about Red's upcoming product. Canon has a lot more resources than RED, and I think they have been planning for this showdown for a while, I'd be surprised if they allowed themselves to get upstaged.
 
It'd be funny if the two companies announced a merger(aka Canon buys Red out) on the 3rd.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 5D Mark III on Novemeber 3 [CR2]
« on: October 26, 2011, 04:41:54 PM »
On another site, I read someone's hands on review of the 1DX and he said he overheard two Canon employees hinting at the November announcement. The writer said that it would make a lot of people happy.

It's a Hollywood announcement. Maybe it's an X Mark I Electronic Clapperboard that will make a lot of 2nd ACs happy...   :P

The 5D line does of course have some connection with hollywood though so both the high end videocam and it being annouced at the same time might not be impossible.
i agree i certainly think its a possibility the 5dmk2 is what made it for canon in the video scene sounds like the perfect venue to announce its successor i would say 75% chance we will see a 5d mk3 on november 3rd.

I'll bet you karma you won't see the successor then. I still think we'll see two dedicated video cameras. The lower end compatible with the EF lenses and 4:2:2.  And the upper end 4k(fingers crossed) with PL lenses.   Red Camera is announcing that day, so clearly Canon is trying to upstage them.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 5D Mark III on Novemeber 3 [CR2]
« on: October 26, 2011, 02:11:13 PM »
There is no chance we will see a new 5D for at least a year. It just doesn't make any sense to release it anywhere close to the 1X. Not to mention, the traditional difference in release has been 5D a year after 1Ds ii, and 5D mkii a year after 1Ds iii.
What do you mean "no chance"?

You have no idea what Canon is planning for the 5D3. It may be released in the next few days, next month, March 2012, June 2012, September 2012 etc. We have not had this situation before where this is EOS 's 25th year with olympics also it's over it's 3 year cycle significantly by the time it gets shipped.

Why can't Canon release the 5D3 near the 1DX - firstly they're reshuffling their lineup and secondly the 1DX and 5D3 are totally different target markets.

Totally different markets?  I doubt that.  They'd have to nerf the 5dmrkiii pretty bad for it not to cannibalize any 1DX sales.  I agree with neuroanatomist when he says that "time" is a good way to differentiate the two. Plus the mrkii is still selling well. So for all of the reasons mentioned, the probability of getting your hands on a 5Diii within a year is very low.

But for the sake of discussion, say they did want to differentiate it with fps. Would people be happy with 36MP at 2fps(slower than its predecessor)?



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EOS Bodies / Re: No 5D Mark III on Novemeber 3 [CR2]
« on: October 25, 2011, 08:02:42 PM »
There is no chance we will see a new 5D for at least a year. It just doesn't make any sense to release it anywhere close to the 1X. Not to mention, the traditional difference in release has been 5D a year after 1Ds ii, and 5D mkii a year after 1Ds iii.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS Movie or Pro/Semi Vid Cam
« on: October 25, 2011, 04:34:04 PM »
The 25p looking bad on TV (seriously who watches tv anyway!)  is not the camera's fault, it's the rendering software and/or a lack of know-how. They convert film from 24fps to TV all the time with no flickering.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 5D Mark III on Novemeber 3 [CR2]
« on: October 25, 2011, 01:04:07 PM »
The heart says buy a 5D2 now.

The brain says wait and buy a 5D3 soon.

Simple: I like to follow my brain.

MY brain tells you to wait till the 5Dmkiii comes out, and then buy a mkii at a steep discount.

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