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EOS Bodies / Re: New 5D3 Raw video samples mind blowing!
« on: May 14, 2013, 10:10:03 AM »
http://www.eoshd.com/content/10324/big-news-hands-on-with-continuous-raw-recording-on-canon-5d-mark-iii

He updated the samples! Quality is just insane.

Just like that this may have become the best video DSLR ever. By MILES. And even outdo many of the more (even much more) expensive mid-tier video offerings.

The real crazy thing is that this capability also exists on the 5D2, that means we could have had video like this 5 years ago.  :o

At this point I am convinced that Canon helped ML get this up and running.  The timing is just too weird.

I still don't think it's quite on par with the BMCC, but it's definitely debatable now (we need more tests), and it wasn't before.

This is the coolest thing from Canon in the past 4 years, and ostensibly, they had nothing to do with it.   ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III with Continuous RAW Video Recording
« on: May 13, 2013, 12:27:57 PM »
Oh please not more BMCC Koolaid. The C300 image (especially recorded externally) is one of the cleanest 1080p images in the entire business with virtually no moire or false color artifacts and lovely color science. The BMCC fanboys (some of whom are or were apparently secretly in the employ of Blackmagic Design) keep repeating nonsense but repeating something ad nauseum does not make it true. IQ test: hand a better DP (who isn't taking money or gear from either company, and who didn't learn what they know from reading online forums) a C300 and a BMCC and see which one s/he hands to the intern to shoot BTS.

Look at the videos online, the evidence is overwhelming, the very best of the c300 is outclassed by the very best from the BMCC.  And the DR advantage is a fact. 

Yes even Andrew (who I think, to his credit, is too random a figure for anyone to consider buying off) has declared the BMCC dead with this new hack. It's just about as annoying to use as RAW on a BMCC and the 5d3's a much better sensor and camera. I think even the official HDMI out from the 5D3 recorded into a Ninja 2 is a superior image to BMCC RAW.

Now you are just talkin crazy. The 5D3 does not have a better sensor, it has a bigger sensor. The BMCC more than a stop advantage in DR, and a higher native ISO.

Sure there are other codecs that are almost as good as raw, but you don't get those on any Canon Camera other than the c500.


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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III with Continuous RAW Video Recording
« on: May 13, 2013, 11:10:48 AM »
I think Canon are secretly happy with this.  ML has been around for quite sometime and Canon knows how much ML helped them sell a lot of 5D2s.  Who knows, they might also profit by adopting those free codes to their new cameras thereby raising raising their value without even doing anything... Good times!

I wouldn't be surprised if Canon actually helped ML out with this. The timing is really suspicious.  Right after the failed(or at least underwhelming) firmware upgrade, and just as BMCC is coming on strong.

This is something that we could have had 5 years ago on the 5D2(except maybe CF cards were not fast enough then)!!!

Either way I'm happy, this means a new lease on life for my 5D for video.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III with Continuous RAW Video Recording
« on: May 13, 2013, 10:09:46 AM »
and might be better than the C300 and definitely better than the BlackMagic Cinema Camera.

The BMCC still has more than a stop better DR (than the 5D3), and as of now, more resolution for continuous shooting. And while the c300 is a much easier camera to use, BMCC's best image blows the c300 out of the water.

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Video & Movie / Ginny the Dog
« on: May 06, 2013, 09:10:54 PM »
Canon 100mm Macro on my BMCC

https://vimeo.com/65555790

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Video & Movie / Canon 100mm 2.8L Macro on BMCC
« on: April 30, 2013, 01:32:25 PM »
The Canon 100mm Macro loves the BMCC (and vice versa).

First Shot BMCC on Vimeo

Caroline Test 2 on Vimeo

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon 5D Mark iii HDMI Clean Output?
« on: April 28, 2013, 01:44:26 PM »

If you've seen my other post it is amazing what the camera actually seems to get off the sensor in 1920x1080, decent amount of DR and good detail, the compression engine seems to work well (at least for the soft, low DR signal it is fed) but why does it get fed a soft, low DR signal when the ML test implies that their is some much more awesome quality coming off the sensor at 24fps? Maybe that source is too slow to actually feed the video engine? But it seems like that IS the source that then gets played with and fed into the compression engine.

We know that the sensor puts out a 14bit stream. The processor then quickly and crudely compresses the files for storage. My guess is that without this crude compression, you would overload all the buffers, because the processors weren't designed for efficient compression at high speed.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Need a tripod, any suggestions?
« on: April 28, 2013, 12:30:41 PM »
To put it bluntly, it makes the shots that used to seem impossible, seem easy. 

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Need a tripod, any suggestions?
« on: April 27, 2013, 09:49:50 PM »
Just a shame to spend what is nearly enough for a sachtler ace and to buy suy something markedly inferior.  We really are not talking a whole lot more money in the scheme of things.  And I maintain that it's a false economy.  I use a vinten protouch 5 for my eng, and used to use a 055/438/501 combo for my hdv and dslr.  The ace isn't without a couple of niggles, but the movements and ramping are superlative in comparison. If you are going to spend half decent money on a tripod then i think it only makes sense to buy a half decent tripod.  For 30% more cash you get something 100% better.

I think its a false economy, but its your cash, you asked for an opinion, that's mine.
A decent tripod is the core of your system, and will be supporting your 5dmkIV, your 5dmkV, your 5DmkVI etc.
If you ever try an ace you'll want one, and you'll kick yourself as your $300 had you half way there just about.

I hate to practice necromancy on old threads, but this thread was really helpful with my tripod purchasing decision. I went with the Sachtler Ace for my BMCC.  All i can say is, wow. Money well spent. Thanks Paul.

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Apparently this Raw Feed gets written to a buffer, but the buffer is 512MB, and can only hold a few seconds.  Keep in mind, that SD and CF write speeds aren't fast enough to write 14bit raw at this resolution. So at the end of the day, I'm guessing that the most we'd get from this is a Raw burst mode similar to the Nikon 1, v1 (or v2).

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon 5D Mark iii HDMI Clean Output?
« on: April 20, 2013, 11:38:06 AM »
I shot with the BMCC for one weekend and the resulting files were ridiculously huge and my 3.4 i7 iMac with SSD's/32GB RAM/2GB Video/Thunderbolt Drives could barely even play them.  I wouldn't shoot 2.5K on that thing unless I was trying to make some award winning stuff, it's just not worth it. 

I'm assuming you had the iMac with the AMD GPU? I hear that Resolve really requires Nvidia. I've heard that the new iMac (late 2012) runs the RAW files very well. I hope so, because i just ordered one, after taking a very long hard look at Windows workstations! Please let me know if i am mistaken.

To me it seems like Blackmagic Design priced the production cam that way to discourage people from buying the BMCC.  They are taking the old BMCC bodies, putting in the new sensor and slapping a 4K sticker on it and taking the old sensors and putting them in the Pocket cams, it's pretty genius really. 

Either way any of the cameras mentioned here can produce great images if used correctly, but the BMPC has the specs I've been looking for and at a ridiculously low price.

I agree, however, I think it is quite possible that the $1000 difference between cameras will be pure margin for black magic. In other words, the components of the BMPC will cost the same (or less) than the BMCC.  But that's pure speculation on my part.

My biggest fear is that the 7D2 will do something like full raw recording for 30-60 seconds.  I would have jumped at something like that.   I love my 5D2, and always will,  so I'm really hoping that Canon makes a comeback.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon 5D Mark iii HDMI Clean Output?
« on: April 18, 2013, 11:56:03 AM »
I would seriously consider waiting on the Blackmagic Production cam, it's definitely going to ship in July and a lot more camera for less than $1k more.  I preordered it and the pocket cam, both are going to be stellar.

Why i didn't get a BMPC in short: less DR, no uncompressed RAW, more expensive.  Remember, it's a different sensor, so no guarantee that it's going to have the same beautiful image. 

Indeed, once we start seeing vids, i may regret my decision. But i figure the reason someone gets a BMCC(as opposed to a 5D3) is for the DR and the complete control over it in post.  So why would i want to compromise either of those for the BMPC?

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon 5D Mark iii HDMI Clean Output?
« on: April 12, 2013, 04:23:28 PM »
Yah, I just jumped ship to the BMCC. I ordered from Adorama last night, and i already got a notice that it is shipping this week. I guess they've figures out their supply issues.

I waited as long as I could for Canon to give me something with raw that was affordable. I like to grade my video like i grade my pictures, and there was no way i could do this with Canon.

Hopefully they'll come around soon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will Canon release a Pocket BMCC competitor?
« on: April 11, 2013, 02:52:22 PM »
I didn't mean to offend. Let me try and remake my point.

The original BMC is now in the hands of many people. It's not without it's flaws, but it is also punching well above its weight (price). 

I think people, myself included, are willing to put up with them because of what you get, once the hassle is over.

But i have no faith that they will deliver the BMPC or the Pocket Camera in by July.  They are effectively selling camera options at this point, on things that don't actually exist.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will Canon release a Pocket BMCC competitor?
« on: April 11, 2013, 02:20:03 PM »
They have made a lot of promises, and for every promise, later a excuse.  I'd take a wait and see approach to see if they can actually produce and support them.  Companies often have a tough time delivering on the hype.

All they have done is provide the best video IQ below $10K for around $3K. The first gen is finally out and shipping in quantity. 

I was a Canon apologist for the longest time, but show me ANY Canon Cam that can do this.

https://vimeo.com/62959319

No chance with the 5D3, not even on a c300(to be fair, the c300 has big-time advantages, in other areas not emphasized in those shots). 

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